Right Wing Wes-phobia continues against Wes Clark

[FrenchieCat]

http://www.msnbc.com/news/994180.asp?0cv=CB30

Another Dean prop-up, this time by George Will.
Georgie boy calls Clark "The Incredibly Shrinking
Candidate." If he's so "shrinking" and
"inconsequential" why do they keep talking about him?

And nice reference to the OLD N.H. poll. These guys
are too much.

When is somebody in the mainstream media going to wake
up and look at current poll results? No offense but
Iowa isn't the center of the universe.

[Skwmom]

1. When is someome going to have the guts to write the following

article: Are we going to let Rove pick our nominee?

Oh that's right, you should be careful what you wish for. Jeb Bush won in Florida, Arnold in CA, my money is on the Republicans.

[The Magistrate]

2. Both Iowa And New Hampshire, Sir

Have lost much of their cachet lately. In the last decade their function as predictors and gate-keepers has taken numerous knocks. The round of Southern and Upper Midwestern primaries are the real battlegrounds today.

[american_punk]

3. this is tru

what might I ask makes Iowa so important to this election. also, when will the candidate be announced

[slinkerwink]

6. because the media tends to focus on who wins the first primary

and then the second primary----whoever garners the media momentum will affect undecided voters in later primaries because of the perception of the "winner" status

[MidwestTransplant]

4. Be sure to rate this story that trashes all our candidates

[HFishbine]

5. The NH Poll

referred to is from Nov. 6. Is there a newer one?

http://americanresearchgroup.com/nhpoll/dem/

[slinkerwink]

10. yep, there's a new one from Nov.17th

The AP reports on the latest Marist College poll of likely New Hampshire primary voters, which shows Howard Dean widening his lead in the Granite State:

The latest poll from Marist College's Institute for Public Opinion found Dean favored by 39 percent of Democrats and independents planning to vote in the Granite State's first-in-the-nation primary. Kerry had support from 23 percent of those polled. The other contenders were all in single digits and 14 percent of the potential voters were undecided.

In a September poll from the Poughkeepsie, N.Y.-based pollsters, Dean led Kerry, 35 percent to 22 percent, with Clark at 11 percent. In the new poll, the former general's support had dropped to 4 percent.

[xultar]

7. Don't Fret my dear...Let them do what they must to feel better...

We shouldn't talk about how they are doing the Dean prop-up. That is not the issue. The issue is that they are playing with our minds and with our party politicts.

I don't care if the media says anything positive about Dean. Why cuz he's a democratic candidate. If the RW media can find a reason to say something positive about a Democratic Candidate all is good. Lord knows they never have had anything nice to say about any Democrat besides Zell Miller.

If the media want to ignore Clark, that is fine also. It is better for him to operate under the radar for a while until he gets more comfortable. Just remember front runners have the most to lose.

The best is yet to come for Clark and his supporters. Have Faith!

[slinkerwink]

8. so you'd rather for Clark not to be the frontrunner?

:shrug:

[chimpymustgo]

9. Is Will predicting Dean would run 3rd party?

-snip-
He and his supporters will be bitter if he is beaten.
        His true believers, with the steadfastness that comes from monomania, are energized by anger about the war. Gephardt, the likely nominee if Dean isn’t, voted for the war. If Gephardt wins, will disappointed Deanites bravely smile and sweetly say, “Jolly good. Beaten fair and square. Let’s all rally ‘round Dick. Never mind that he is one of the Washingtonians that our hero calls ‘cockroaches’ “?
        Not likely. Many will go looking for an alternative candidate. Someone as much fun as the feisty Dean. Someone fueled by contempt for Democrats he considers morally squishy. Someone with national name recognition, a seasoned campaign staff, well-honed campaigning skills, a large cadre of true believers and an up-and-running money machine.
        So, who might be the formidable independent candidate to win the votes of liberals disaffected from a Democratic Party that does not nominate Dean? Dean.
-snip-

I think he's wrong on that one. But I hope he's wrong about the emotional state of Dean if/when he loses the nomination. We do have to all rally round the nominee.

[jeter]

12. Gepthardt?????

How on Earth will Gepthardt win the nomination? Which states will he win beyond Iowa and his own?

Why are the GOP so gung ho about Gepthardt? You notice how they are the ones always pushing him.

Because they want to take away the war issue (everyone has given up on Kerry and Lieberman), and that way they'll call Gepthardt a "class warrior" to which Gept's will crumble. Because those Washington Democrats are more interested in being friends with their Georgetown cliques than actually changing anything.

Also, Gepthardt can't run against Washington. He can't unite the Democratic base.

Dean/Clark 2004.

[slinkerwink]

13. lol, what a stupid statement from will....

Dean has said many many times over that he will support the nominee and he will not run as an independent.

[jeter]

11. The greatest Democratic ticket since JFK-Johnson

Dean/Clark. Remember that. It will happen.

[FrenchieCat]

15. Sorry

But if anything, it will be Clark/Dean....

Can't use Dean's platform of Tax increases for all

Can't use Dean's non foreign policy experience against Bush.


In Fact, why does Clark have to be stapled to Dean's side in order for the ticket to be of value.....

What about Dean/somebody else....

Compared to Clark/just about anybody will do with some legislative experience

Plueese.......

[chimpymustgo]

17. Good post, Frenchie.

Dean needs Clark. Clark does not need Dean.

[w4rma]

14. You think Will is proping up Dean?

Will is parroting *your* crap about Dean, Frenchie-4-Clark.

[FrenchieCat]

18. Not a problem as I was

concentrating on the info put out on Clark, not Dean.

Clark, the Incredibly shrinking candidate.........you're getting sleepy, very, very sleepy.......look that the swinging watch, left, right, left, right.........you eyelids are feeling heavy........very, very heavy........

Boy, those mediawhores are desperate!

[Rowdyboy]

16. What a piece of crap article...

Will is such an ass. Just aimed at further depressing Democrats and promoting disunity. Dean will not run as a 3rd party! He has too much character.