Rank the Candidates

[JohnLocke]

Mine are...

1) Edwards
2) Dean
3) Gephart
4) Clark
5) Lieberman
6) Kuchinch
7) Kerry
8) Mosley-Braun
9) Sharpton

[jenk]

1. mine

1. Edwards
2. Gephardt
3. Kerry
4. Clark
5. Dean
6. Lieberman
7. Kucinich
8. Sharpton
9. Mosely-Braun

[Bucky]

45. A statistical analysis of this poll

I ran the numbers here and thought yall might like to hear the results. Here's what I found.

If you allow the 37 voters to "split" their votes (several folks said it was a three- or two-way tie), then candidate totals for first place votes are:
13.7 votes (38%) - Dean
11.8 votes (33%) - Clark
4.83 votes (13%) - Edwards
3.33 votes (9%) - Kucinich
2.00 votes (6%) - Kerry
1.00 votes (3%) - Sharpton
0.33 votes (1%) - Moseley Braun

Measuring the ranking of candidates is a bit harder. As a compromise over more sophisticated tabulation systems (to which I don't have access) I used a more crude counting system. For first place choices, I allotted 9 points, for second place I gave 8 points, for third place 7 points, and so on until I got to the 9th place choice, who got 1 point. If the poster said there was a tie, they each got the next value of points available. Candidate not mentioned at all got no points at all. (*For example, if there's a tie for first place, then there is no second place choice. The next most popular is counted as the 3rd place choice)

Using this system, I calculated the ranking of support for the candidates this way:

Candidate - Pts - Avg Rank
W. Clark - 251 - 7.0
H. Dean - 233 - 6.5
Edwards - 209 - 5.8
Jn. Kerry - 207 - 5.8
Kucinich - 184 - 5.1
Gephardt - 177 - 4.9
Mo-Braun - 153 - 4.3
Sharpton - 109 - 3.0
Lieberman - 71 - 2.0


To figure out who the strongest second choice candidate is, I calculated the value of points if you remove everybody's number one choice:

Candidate - Rank
W. Clark - 5.7
Jn. Kerry - 5.4
Edwards - 4.9
Gephardt- 4.8
H. Dean - 4.7
Kucinich - 4.5
Mo-Braun- 4.0
Sharpton - 2.9
Lieberman- 2.0

From this (un-scientific) sample, it seems that Dean is the most polarizing candidate. He has the strongest one-vote-only total, but drops to 5th place when looking for secondary candidates. He was even out-ranked by Gephardt, who didn't get a single first place vote.

Although Dean got the most first place votes, Clark got the highest average ranking (averaging a 7.0 compared to 6.5 for Dean).

Clark (at 5.7) and Kerry (at 5.4) are the candidates most popular among those not supporting them for first place. This would make them the strongest unity candidates for the DU posters.

[chimpymustgo]

47. Great work and analysis, Bucky. Thanks for the time and effort.

Interesting thoughts on "unity" candidates.

You might even want to post this as a separate thread for discussion.

[Bucky]

64. OK, did it.

But what is a Condorcet? What is an IRV? I was in market research, not a hard science, so my analysis uses no sophisticated mathmatical modeling. These are all quick n dirty approximations.

I only know that ordinal valuations are valid in micro economics, but may not hold up here because one voter's #3 choice may be far more desireable an alternative than somebody else's #2.

[kiahzero]

52. Give me a little while, and I'll work out the Condorcet winner

Unfortunately, I have a 7-8 page paper on why the media should be more partisan, due TOMORROW (ACK!)... otherwise, I'd do it now.

[Myra]

82. Holy cow Bucky

You are some kinda brainiac.
Nice work.

[Mattforclark]

2. 1) Clark

1) Clark
2) Dean
Kerry
Edwards
5) Mosley-Braun
6) Kucinich
7) Gephart
8) Sharpton
9) Lieberman

[mzmolly]

3. Here you go.

1) Dean
2) Gephardt
3) Kerry
4) Clark
5) Mosley-Braun
6) Edwards
7) Lieberman
8) Kuchinch
9) Sharpton

[chimpymustgo]

6. Clark and Edwards tied for first.

1. Clark
1. Edwards
3. Kerry
4. Gephardt
5. Mosley-Braun
6. Kucinich
7. Dean
8. Lieberman
9. Sharpton

[GreenArrow]

4. fwiw

1)Kucinich
2)Sharpton
3)Mosley Braun
4) Tie Between:
Kerry, Clark
5) Gephardt
6) Tie between Edwards and Dean and Lieberman

There's a big drop off after the first three and little room separates the rest.

[ComerPerro]

5. Ok

Dean
Clark
Kucinich
Kerry
Edwards
Mosley-Braun
Sharpton
Gephart
Lieberman

[Field Of Dreams]

7. My rankings....

Clark
Edwards
Kucinich
Dean
Gephardt
Kerry
Mosely-Braun
Sharpton

Kerry has dropped the most for me. He was initially my number two.

Kucinich has grown on me over the last several weeks.

These could change ... except for my number one.

[Field Of Dreams]

8. Oops! Forgot Lieberman

He's not even on my list! B-)

[Mz Pip]

9. Here's mine

for now

1) Clark
2) Kucinich
3,4,5) Kerry, Gephardt, Edwards in no particular order
6) Dean
7) Mosely Braun
8) Sharpton
9) Lieberman

[mlawson]

10. Mine has finally changed bit:

Edwards & Clark tied.
Dean
Kucinich
Kerry
Gephardt
Mosley Braun
Sharpton
Lieberman

[oasis]

11. 1) Kerry 2) Clark 3) Gephardt 4) Edwards 5) Dean 6) D.K. 7) CMB 8) Al etc.

Clark with Landrieu for V.P.....Kerry with Edwards for V. P.

[NewJerseyDem]

12. My list

My opinions of the candidates are constantly changing though. If you ask me tomorrow it will probably be completely different.

1. Edwards
2. Gephardt
3. Braun
4. Kerry
5. Lieberman
6. Clark
7. Kucinich
8. Dean
9. Sharpton

[seg4527]

13. re

1) Dean
2) Kucinich
3) Clark
4) Sharpton
5) Gephart
6) Edwards
7) Kerry
8) Mosley-Braun
9) Liebermann

[MisterP]

14. by intersecting lines of political liking and rough winnability

Dean
Kerry
Clark
Kucinich
Moseley-Brown
Gephardt
Edwards
Sharpton
Lieberman

[durutti]

15. My Ranking

For electability:

1. Clark
2. Kerry
3. Edwards
4. Gephardt
6. Kucinich
7. Dean
8. Moseley Braun
9. Sharpton

For politics:

1. Sharpton
2. Kucinich
3. John Kerry
4. Carol Moseley Braun
5. Wesley Clark
6. Howard Dean
7. John Edwards
8. Dick Gephardt
9. Joe Lieberman

[SteveG]

16. here are mine

1) Clark
2) Kerry
3) Edwards
4) Dean
5) Lieberman
6) Gephart
7) Mosley-Braun
8) Kucinich
9) Sharpton

[vdeputy]

17. 1) Clark

2) Kerry
3) Edwards
4) Gephart
5) Dean

Only ones I think have a prayer

[sujan]

18. mine

1.Dean, Kucinich (even though he is running a piss poor campaign and is an uneffective leader), Mosley-Braun

2.Bob Graham (Even though he dropped out)

3. Sharpton, Lieberman

4. Gephardt, Kerry

5. Edwards

6. Clark

[arewethereyet]

19. I'd go...

Edwards
Dean
Gephart
Kerry
Lieberman
Kuchinch
Mosley-Braun
Sharpton
Clark

[Renew Deal]

20. Here it is. I am not sure what you are basing it on.

1. Clark
2. Kerry
3. Kucinich
4. Dean
5. Gep
6. Edwards
7. CMB
8. Sharpton
9. Lieberman

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

33. It's just personal preference, isn't it?

I certainly hope so, since that's what mine was based on.

[frank frankly]

21. here's one

1. Dean
2. Clark
3. Kucinich
4. Kerry
5. Edwards
6. Gephardt
7. Mosley-Braun
8. Sharpton
9. Lieberman

[Scottie72]

22. Mine

1 Kuchinch
2 Mosley-Braun
3 Al sharpton

Then the rest the order doesn't really matter because they are so far behind in my mind.. though I will vote for the eventual Dem. Nominnee.

[xJlM]

88. That's about it

Kucinich, Mosley-Braun and Sharpton, with the rest in a tie for next to last place. Last goes to LaRouche. I won't vote for him if he is the Dem nominee, but that's highly unlikely.

[philosophie_en_rose]

23. Tentative List

A lot can happen before an election, but...

Tier 1: Dean, Clark, Edwards

Tier 2: Kerry, Gephardt

Tier 3: (Most likeable; Least Likely): Kucinich, Sharpton, Moseley-Braun

{Huge Gap}

Tier 4 (Only because I'd rather have anyone but Bush): Lieberman

[Lady President]

24. My list

I don't think my list has changed since last time I did this, but I always like to see what everyone else posts.

1. Kerry
2. Edwards
3. Gephardt
4. Clark
5. Kucinich
6. Moseley-Braun
7. Sharpton
8. Dean
9. Lieberman

[Lady President]

25. My list

I don't think my list has changed since last time I did this, but I always like to see what everyone else posts.

1. Kerry
2. Edwards
3. Gephardt
4. Clark
5. Kucinich
6. Moseley-Braun
7. Sharpton
8. Dean
9. Lieberman

[IranianDemocrat]

26. Mine.

Clark
Gephart
Edwards
Kerry
Kucinich
Sharpton
Braun
Lieberman
Dean
LaRouche

[Skwmom]

27. Mine

1) Clark
2) Kucinich
3) Kerry
4) Gephardt/Sharpton
5) Edwards/Braun
6) Lieberman and Dean

[IndianaGreen]

28. Boo on the war enabling four!

Hooray on everyone else!

[mvd]

29. Current list

1. Kucinich
2. Braun (because she's so liberal)
3. Dean
4. Kerry
5. Edwards
6. Sharpton (love how he speaks out, but he doesn't seem very Presidential)
7. Gephardt
8. Clark
9. Lieberman

I like everyone except for Lieberman. Am just not into bashing candidates.

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

30. Here's mine...

1) Dean
2) Clark
3) Edwards
4) Kerry
5) Gephart
6) Kuchinch
7) Sharpton
8) Mosley-Braun
9) Lieberman

[Zynx]

31. Currently...

1)Dean(Clark has sounded like too much of a Clinton Democrat recently)
2.Clark
3.Edwards
4.Gephardt
5.Kerry
6.Sharpton
7.Kucinich
8.CMB
9.Lieberman

[drfemoe]

32. Dean

n/t

[mobuto]

34. Ok Here's my list. 1. General Wesley Clark

2. There is no number two.

[laruemtt]

35. mine are

1. clark
2. dean
3. cmb
4. kooch
5. edwards
6. sharpton
7. kerry
8. gephart
9. lieberman

[The Zanti Regent]

36. Mine

1) Clark
2) Kucinich
3) Dean
4) Mosley-Braun
5) Sharpton
6-9) Edwards, Kerry, Gephart, Liberman

6-9 since they gave a blank check to President Asshole and left my 23 year old nephew destroyed for life!

[slinkerwink]

37. Mine are...

1)Dean
2)Clark
3)Edwards
4)Carol Moseley Braun
5)Kucinich
6)Kerry
7)Gephardt
9)Lieberman

[AmericanDem]

51. slinkerwink you have Clark 2nd?

I'm very surprised. Why do rail against him so much if he is at the top of your list?

[PAMod]

38. I like typing the names - its a great field

1. Dean
2. Edwards
3. Clark
4. Kerry
5. Gep
6. tie - the rest

[JohnLocke]

41. Anyone else?

[poskonig]

39. Dean

Dean
Kerry
Clark

Edwards
Gephardt
Moseley-Braun

Gephardt
Lieberman
Sharpton

[bushisanidiot]

40. Dean

1) Dean
2) Mosley-Braun
3) Gephart
4) Clark
5) Kerry
6) Edwards
7) Sharpton
8) Kucinich
9) Lieberman

[dawn]

42. Here's mine

1) Clark and Dean (tied - I can't decide)
2) Kucinich
3) Kerry
4) Gephart
5) Edwards
6) Moseley-Braun
7) Sharpton
8) Lieberman

[redqueen]

43. # 1 - Kucinich

And that's it.

But I'll vote for the eventual nominee. At least once more. :evilfrown:

[codebled]

44. I was incredibly enamored with Clark for a while there

and i would put Clark, Kucinich and Dean all in my top choice with everyone else being second ...but anyway I'll vote for whoever gets the nomination.

[AP]

46. Ed, Ku, Ke, Cl, Sh, CMB, De, Li.

Ed, a furlong out in first place. Ku a clear second place. Cl, and Ke a photo finish for third. Sh by a lenght of CMB. CMB about ten lengths ahead of De, who's a nose ahead of Li.

[greekspeak]

48. Mine

1) Clark
2) Dean
3) Kuchinch
4) Sharpton
5) Mosley-Braun
6) Gephart
7) Edwards
8) Kerry
9) Lieberman

[AmericanDem]

49. my ranking but couldnt this be set as a poll?

1) Clark
2) Gephardt
3) Kerry
4) Dean
5) Edwards
6) Lieberman
7) Kuchinch
8) Sharpton
9) Braun

[kiahzero]

50. There would be 362,889 options

That'd be one hell of a poll.

[AmericanDem]

53. im fairly new here

I just thought they would strike an average and post as such. I have seen that on many website.

[kiahzero]

55. Welcome, btw

Excuse the sarcasm above
:D

[killbotfactory]

54. Dean, Clark, CMB, Edwards

Kerry
Gephardt
Kucinich
Sharpton
Lieberman

[kerry-is-my-prez]

56. Clark

Kerry
Dean
Edwards
Gephardt
Kucinich
Sharpton
Braun

[mndemocrat_29]

57. My choices

1. Clark
2. Kerry
3. Edwards
4. Moseley Braun
5. Gephardt
6. Sharpton
7. Dean
8. Kucinich
9. Lieberman

[canuckagainstBush]

58. Clark

1) Clark
2) Dean
3) Kucinich
4) Sharpton
5) Moseley-Braun
6) Kerry
7) Edwards
8) Gephardt
9) Lieberman

[THUNDER HANDS]

59. Mine

1. Kerry
1. Dean
1. Edwards
2. Gephardt
3. Clark
4. Lieberman
4. Braun
4. Kucinich
4. Sharpton

[in_cog_ni_to]

60. Mine

1. Clark
2. Dean
3. Kucinich
4. Gephardt
5. Kerry
6. CMB
7. Sharpton
8. Lieberman
9. Edwards

[economic justice]

61. Here go

1) Clark - tie
2) Edwards - tie
3) Gephardt - tie
4) Dean
5) Lieberman
6) Kerry
7) Mosely-Braun
8) Kucinich
9) Sharpton

[mountebank]

62. A unique ranking.... Can someone do IRV?

1) Kucinich
2) Dean
3) Moseley-Braun
4) Gephardt
5) Edwards
6) Clark
7) Kerry
8) Sharpton
9) Lieberman

I'd be interested to see how I.R.V. turned out on these data.

[yaledem]

63. mine...

1. Edwards
2. Clark
3. Kerry
4. Gephardt
5. Lieberman
6. Dean
7. Kucinich
8. Braun
9. Sharpton

...

250,000,000. LaRouche
250,000,001. Satan
250,000,002. Bush

[_NorCal_D_]

65. Mine:

1. Clark B-)
2. Kucinich
3. Edwards
4. Kerry
5. Sharpton
6. Gephardt
7. Moseley Braun
8. Lieberman
9. Dean

[GOPFighter]

66. FWIW

1) Dean
2) Clark
3) Kerry
4) Edwards
5) MoselyBraun
6) Gephart
7) Kucinich
8) Sharlton
9) Lieberman

[Ficus]

67. okay

1. Kucinich :hippie:
2. Clark :shrug:
3. Kerry :think:
4. Dean :mad:
5. Edwards :boring:
6. Sharpton :freak:
7. Gephardt :eyes:
8. CMB :loveya:
9. Lieberman :nopity:

[Tom Rinaldo]

68. More data

Clark
Dean
Edwards
Kerry
Gephardt
Lieberman (ugh)

I only ranked candidates who I felt have some chance of beating Bush, my support gets rather wishy washy beyond my top three.

[BrewCrew]

69. 1) Gep... 2) Edwards

1) Gephardt
2) Edwards
3) Kerry
4) Kucinich
5) Dean
6) Clark
7) CMB
8) Sharpton
9) Lieberman

[unfrigginreal]

70. 1) Dean 2) Clark

nt

[dawgman]

71. Kucinich, Mosley-braun, Sharpton, the rest of the corporate douche bags

[a_random_joel]

72. Here ya go...

1. Dean
2. Clark
3. Kerry
4. Gephardt
5. Sharpton
6. Edwards
7. Mosely-Braun
8. Lieberman
9. Kucinich

[LouisFC]

73. Here's Mine

1. Clark
2. Kerry
3. Edwards
4. Gephart

5. Lieberman, Dean
6. Mosley Braun
7. Kuchinich
8. Sharpton

[ozone_man]

74. Here are mine.

Based on preference, not electability". I don't know some of them very well, but here goes:

1) Dean
2) Kucinich
3) Mosley-Braun
4) Clark
5) Sharpton
6) Kerry
7) Edwards
8) Gephart
9) Lieberman

[AlinPA]

75. Clark, Dean, Kerry, Gephardt, Edwards,Kucinich,Mosely-Braun,Sharpton, Lieb

Top three will make the race a great one.

[blm]

76. Kerry, Kucinich, Edwards, Gephardt, Clark,Mosley-Braun

Sharpton, Lieberman, Dean

[Sean Reynolds]

77. Here is my list:

1. Dean
2. Kucinich
3. Braun
4. Clark
5. Edwards
6. Sharpton

--------
Rest tied for last: Lieberman, Kerry, Gephardt.

[paulk]

78. ok

kerry
clark
edwards

kucinich
mosely-braun
sharpton

gephardt
dean
lieberman

always subject to change

[KaraokeKarlton]

79. Mine are

1) Dean
2) Clark or Edwards
3) Clark or Edwards
4) Braun
5) Lieberman
6) Sharpton
7) Kucinich
8) Gephardt
9) Kerry


To explain the bottom 3:

Kucinich is just too radical for my tastes.
Gephardt and Kerry have lied about my state and my ex governor which automatically puts them at the bottom. Kerry gets last because I absolutely hate his plan to force kids to do community service in order to get their high school diploma.

[Kathleen04]

80. Mine...

Clark, Dean, Edwards
Gephardt
Kerry
Lieberman
Braun
Kucinich
Sharpton

[LWolf]

81. Okay.

1. Kucinich
2. Kucinich
3. Kucinich
4. Braun/Edwards/Kerry/Clark/Sharpton
5. Gephardt/Dean
6. Lieberman

[SmileyBoy]

83. Here's mine:

1) Dean
2) Kucinich
3) Clark
4) Kerry
5) Gephardt
6) Edwards
7) Mosley-Braun
8) Sharpton
9) Lieberman

[Barbara917]

84. Has the polling closed?

I will write in my answers late....

1)Clark
2)Kerry
3)Edwards
4)Gephardt
5)Kucinich
6)Dean
7)Mosley-Braun
8)Sharpton
9)Lieberman

[FrenchieCat]

85. my ranking

Preference
1. Clark
2. Kerry
3. Edwards
4. Kucinich
5. Dean
6. Gephardt
7. Carol Mosley Braun
8. Al Sharpton
9. no one

Electibility
1. Clark
2. Clark
3. Clark
4. Clark
5. Clark
6. Clark
7. Clark
8. Clark
9. Kerry
10.Kerry

[ibegurpard]

86. Dean, Dean, Dean, Dean, Dean!

LOL! :P

[OBXNCarolina]

87. Edwards

1. Edwards
2. Clark
3. Kerry
4. Dean
5. Gephardt
6. Moseley-Braun
7. Sharpton
8. Kucinich
9. Lieberman