Why have Democrats sponsored the draft bills in Congress?

[truthseeker1]

I looked up the draft bill and was shocked to find ALL Democrats sponsoring and co-sponsoring both the House and Senate versions.

Why??? I don't get it.

H.R. 163:
http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:HR00163:@@@L&summ2=m&
http://congress.org/congressorg/issues/bills/?billnum=H.R.163&congress=108

S.89:
http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:SN00089:
http://congress.org/congressorg/issues/bills/?billnum=S.89&congress=108

[wryter2000]

1. Just a guess

Possibly two reasons:

To illuminate the fact that if we keep letting Bush invade other countries, many, many more of our children will be needed as cannon fodder.

Also, in a draft, it's more likely that Bush's daughters and their peers will have to serve. I think Charlie Rangle (who's about as great at they get), tried to get a draft bill through to make that exact point.

[izzie]

9. It was what the founders wanted an army of every day people.

I am not sure but I bet because it would keep going to war down if all were in army at some time. I get the felling that the rich are happy to see poor kids sign up and fight for the rich mans property around the world.I am not happy to see young men die so a laissie faire form of govt can be stuffed up the ass of half the people in the world. Sorry and no time out for girls or college. All must go and that should stop this war like society.

[rucky]

17. that plan works GREAT in Israel & North Korea n/t

[onebigbadwulf]

2. People are stupid

if the draft comes back 100% of the blame goes to Bush, voting yes for the draft is the best thing dems can do. Silent backstab like an assassin in the night.

[forgethell]

14. people are stupid,

so instead of realizing that * is to blame, they will probably think it was the Dems who sponsored and woted for it that were to blame. The sheeple do not recognize nuances this subtle.

The draft is a BAD idea.

[Colin Ex]

23. What the hell, dude?

We should vote yes on the draft to give Bush the screw?

I'm all for getting Bush out of office, but I sure as FUCK am not going to join the military no matter what, and it's ridiculous that you think my generation is expendable like that.

We are not fucking toys in the game, here.

-C

[LewisJackson]

3. Mandatory Military Service

If I am correct, Rangel wanted to make everyone do it, exploiting the fact that almost no one in congress's kids are in the military, and to see how they would like it if their kids were over there fighting.

If I remember correctly, the only congressman with a son in the military is Sen. Tim Johnson from South Dakota.

Sad, really.

[E_Zapata]

6. That's just crazy thinking........

sorry......

Put millions of kids on the chopping block to prove a point. Come on!

[wryter2000]

7. That's not exactly the question

The question is why would they introduce the legislation. No one expects it to pass.

[LewisJackson]

8. I don't think I phrased that correctly

Rangle put up the bill sometime after the IWR, which he voted against. He did it as direct shot to the Republicans because of the war. He did it knowing there's no way in hell the thing would pass, though. It was a protest of Shrub Co. sending all those troops over where they shouldn't be going.

I'm just going off of what I read. This is probably a better explanation: http://www.montgomeryweb.net/draft.htm

[beanball]

11. War prevention insurance

A return to the draft will cause those daffy congresspersons to think before rubberstamping the next presidents call to arms.

[PaDUer]

16. Plus, don't forget...

they also screwed the lawsuits so they can use whatever chemicals/drugs or whatever, and the people can NOT sue them, govt included...they had it ALL planned ahead.

[E_Zapata]

4. Because they are friggin turncoats, that's why!

Which makes them more evil than repukes! At least the repukes personify LOYALTY TO THE PARTY. I respect Bill Frist more than I respect Tom Daschle. And now I know I have given up!

And, of course, because these dems make a TON of money and security for their allegiance to das fuhror.

I heard some lame explanation on here the other day that the dems support the draft because, "well, gee, if we institute a draft, then the people will see how serious all this is and then they will vote the repukes out. A wake up call for america." Wow.........way to stand your ground.

[Faygo Kid]

5. Force the BushBots' hands

If they are going to send young Americans willy nilly overseas as cannon fodder, then they ought to stand up for the militaristic nation they want us to become. Fish or cut bait, as the saying goes.

[OneBlueSky]

10. no wonder we can't win anything . . .

with strategeries like this, it will be easy to paint the Dems into the "they're for the draft" corner . . . that's right across from the "they're for gay marriage" corner . . .

[tom_paine]

12. Reverse psychology

Force the Repugs to oppose, when we KNOW they are going to do it anyway in 2005 (though it will be too late for the Old Republic).

But the Busheviks will never allow these bills to get a floor vote, so it might be for naught and might also backfire...

[Loonman]

13. Forcing the neo-cons to blink/playing politics

This won't pass.

No Republican congressperson will willingly allow their kid to get drafted.

[MadHound]

15. Because once again we are being betrayed

By the two party/one corporate master system of government that has taken control of our country. Loyal opposition-phht, that's a dead notion of the past. No, now the Democrats must rush to bring innocent lives to be sacrificed at their corporate master's war alter.

And for those of you who think that this is some sort of reverse psych deal, you could be correct in judging one or two people. The rest are simply doing what they are bid to do. And if you don't think this will pass, with exceptions in place for all of the rich little kiddies, well you are going to be in for a rude shock.

Wake up people! Why the hell do you think they're reviving draft boards? Why do you think these ideas are now back in the national and Congressional debate? Wake the fuck up! A draft is coming! And all of the good little Dems will support it.

[Racenut20]

18. They Can't draft me

I gots a boil on my butt. !!!!!!!

[alfredo]

19. The Dem bill would not have exemptions for people who can afford

college for their kids. Many of bush's policies make it harder for working class people to afford college, making it difficult for their kids to avoid the draft that way.

Because it would make rich kids who are in school eligible for the draft, the Repubs will not let it even make it to the floor.

[MattNC]

20. one thing i like

about these bills is that they allow for alternative forms of national defense service aside from the military. i think it's a great idea for those who wouldn't mesh well in the military but could do a good job at say the cia, nsa, etc.

[mb7588a]

21. I got upset about this yesterday and wrote

about it at http://www.mbare.org

After reading this thread I'm still upset and stand by what I wrote.

[truthseeker1]

24. Nicely written

If the draft bill is passed, move to Canada dude!

[Yupster]

22. I don't think there will be a draft

The people who've been talking about it for the last two years have all (almost all?) been Democrats. I think it's mostly 60's nostalgia.

PS -- If there is a draft it doesn't matter if the sons of congressmen get drafted or not. There are very many totally safe assignmnets that they will be put into. Don't think Tom Delay is worried about his kid (?) being drafted. If he has kids, Tom Delay will take very good care to keep his kid far away from any danger.