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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:09 PM
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8.5 million in the 87 Billion Iraq Bill is for Miami protests
Edited on Thu Nov-20-03 07:10 PM by khephra
"Tucked away in Bush's $87 Billion sending bill for Iraq is an 8.5 million item for security operations against the Free Trade Area of the Americas protests in Miami."

(The new The Nation....no link)
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:13 PM
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1. How much of that ..............
will end up in Jebbie's pocket? Anybody want to wager?
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remfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:18 PM
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2. That's a lot of money to spend on security for one event
Who's the congressional rep for the Miami area?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:24 PM
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3. but not ONE PENNY for TORTURED POW's???
:grr::mad::grr::argh:

protect the fat-cat corporate shit-heads, fuck the troops:

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/10/international/middleeast/10POWS.html

U.S. Opposes Money for Troops Jailed in Iraq
By PHILIP SHENON
WASHINGTON, Nov. 9 - The Bush administration is seeking to block a group of American troops who were tortured in Iraqi prisons during the Persian Gulf war in 1991 from collecting any of the hundreds of millions of dollars in frozen Iraqi assets they won last summer in a federal court ruling against the government of Saddam Hussein.

In a court challenge that the administration is winning so far but is not eager to publicize, administration lawyers have argued that Iraqi assets frozen in bank accounts in the United States are needed for Iraqi reconstruction and that the judgment won by the 17 former American prisoners should be overturned.

If the administration succeeds, the former prisoners would be deprived of the money they won and, they say, of the validation of a judge's ruling that documented their accounts of torture by the Iraqis - including beatings, burnings, starvation, mock executions and repeated threats of castration and dismemberment.

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Slimy Scotty's response:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/11/20031106-5.html

Q Scott, there are 17 former POWs from the first Gulf War who were tortured and filed suit against the regime of Saddam Hussein. And a judge has ordered that they are entitled to substantial financial damages. What is the administration's position on that? Is it the view of this White House that that money would be better spent rebuilding Iraq rather than going to these former POWs?

MR. McCLELLAN: I don't know that I view it in those terms, David. I think that the United States -- first of all, the United States condemns in the strongest terms the brutal torture to which these Americans were subjected. They bravely and heroically served our nation and made sacrifices during the Gulf War in 1991, and there is simply no amount of money that can truly compensate these brave men and women for the suffering that they went through at the hands of Saddam Hussein's brutal regime. That's what our view is.

Q But, so -- but isn't it true that this White House --

Q They think they're is an --

Q Excuse me, Helen -- that this White House is standing in the way of them getting those awards, those financial awards, because it views it that money better spent on rebuilding Iraq?

MR. McCLELLAN: Again, there's simply no amount of money that can truly compensate these brave men and women for the suffering --

Q Why won't you spell out what your position is?

MR. McCLELLAN: I'm coming to your question. Believe me, I am. Let me finish. Let me start over again, though. No amount of money can truly compensate these brave men and women for the suffering that they went through at the hands of a very brutal regime, at the hands of Saddam Hussein. It was determined earlier this year by Congress and the administration that those assets were no longer assets of Iraq, but they were resources required for the urgent national security needs of rebuilding Iraq. But again, there is simply no amount of compensation that could ever truly compensate these brave men and women.

Q Just one more. Why would you stand in the way of at least letting them get some of that money?

MR. McCLELLAN: I disagree with the way you characterize it.

Q But if the law that Congress passed entitles them to access frozen assets of the former regime, then why isn't that money, per a judge's order, available to these victims?

MR. McCLELLAN: That's why I pointed out that that was an issue that was addressed earlier this year. But make no mistake about it, we condemn in the strongest possible terms the torture that these brave individuals went through --

Q -- you don't think they should get money?

MR. McCLELLAN: -- at the hands of Saddam Hussein. There is simply no amount of money that can truly compensate those men and women who heroically served --

Q That's not the issue --

MR. McCLELLAN: -- who heroically served our nation.

Q Are you opposed to them getting some of the money?

MR. McCLELLAN: And, again, I just said that that had been addressed earlier this year.

Q No, but it hasn't been addressed. They're entitled to the money under the law. The question is, is this administration blocking their effort to access some of that money, and why?

MR. McCLELLAN: I don't view it that way at all. I view it the way that I stated it, that this issue was --

Q But you are opposed to them getting the money.

MR. McCLELLAN: This issue was addressed earlier this year, and we believe that there's simply no amount of money that could truly compensate these brave men and women for what they went through and for the suffering that they went through at the hands of Saddam Hussein --

Q So no money.

MR. McCLELLAN: -- and that's my answer.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:45 PM
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4. kicking this damned thing
before I blow a gasket :grr:
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:56 PM
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5. I don't understand how it is even legal
to have such different issues within a bill. Oh, I understand, but it just doesn't make sense to me how a bill about Iraq can be about Miami too.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:58 PM
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6. OHHHH!
So THAT'S how they got all that fancy equipment and goon training!!! :think:
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 08:06 PM
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7. I heard California bailout money is in that 87 billion too.....I didn't
believe it..but if this is true...so can that.
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nn2004 Donating Member (172 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 08:09 PM
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8. Why would they need that?
The protesters are nothing but peaceful and would not cause damage to the city. Why is this money needed to defend against people that mean no harm nor would hurt any city property?
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DemCam Donating Member (911 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 08:35 PM
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9. Really wish I had not read this one.
It just makes me have to confront how much hate I am capable of...and that just scares me to the good deppy.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 09:55 PM
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10. WTF and kick
:wtf:
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