Whats up with the Plame/CIA leak? Seems to be DOA!

[Rebellious Republican]

Any beltway insiders here in DU land heard anything. It seems to have been forgotten about! Cube rats like me gave up cable TV a year ago, I developed the habit of eating, had to give up cable in order to afford my food fix three times a day! Inquiring minds want to know.

:kick:

[arewethereyet]

1. was there ever a doubt ?

I mean really...

[loudnclear]

15. The Dem candidates are allowing the media to define the race for them

I would like to see a 'break-away' candidate publicize some of the issues that the press is trying to or has buried.

[frank frankly]

2. it looks dead

no sign of it

:shrug:

[arikara]

3. You're right, it did get buried

And now, lucky world, it will be all Michael Jackson, all the time!

[JailBush]

4. This is an issue the Democratic candidates ought to be keeping alive.

They don't have to make it one of their key issues, but they should have well developed websites that list this among other important issues. If they don't care enough to educate the public and hold the guilty accountable, then they really don't deserve our votes - though we have to vote for them to escape Bush.

[blm]

9. Joe Wilson has a website

www.RestoreHonesty.com

There's a reason the media won't give him the time of day....he aligned with Kerry. The media has a wall of silence when it comes to covering the substance of Kerry''s campaign. It's too damaging to Bush.

[Silverhair]

16. How can you keep it alive if the public doesn't care?

The only ones that care about this are the moderate left. The really hard left is happy to see a CIA agent outed. The moderates don't care. The right is willing to sacrifice a disloyal agent. That only leaves the moderate left to be interested in the story. Therefore, the story dies.

Hey, you're not hearing anything more about Tigerforce either, are you?

[blm]

31. Polls showed the public did care. That's when the media dropped it.

And when the media stepped up its efforts to marginalize Kerry whose team Wilson is part of. Amazing how so many Dems, even here at DU, are helping to keep Kerry and his team silenced to further their own political agendas.

[oasis]

5. Kieth Olberman on MSNBC's "countdown" mentioned it last week.

Nothing since then.

[Stephanie]

6. Why does George Bush employ a Traitor in the White House?

[Military Brat]

20. bush has a lot of traitors in the WH, including himself

As the RW said of Dukakis years ago, a fish rots from the head down.

[grytpype]

7. It will come back!

Remember how the story didn't even get noticed until the CIA referred the matter to Justice? Then there was an explosion of interest?

That is going to happen again and again. The CIA absolutely does not want this to go away. There will be revelations from time to time. Eventually names will be named.

Believe it. The CIA is NOT going to drop this shit, no way.

[Rebellious Republican]

11. For Democracy sake I hope you are right grytpype N/T

:kick:

[spanone]

8. I'm sure Ashcroft is " taking care" of that!!!!

[PA-DEM]

10. It's like this

This is yet another example of why the GOP are killing us. If this happened on their side they would be hammering this everyday. This is the problem when you have a weenie leader like Daschle.

[newyawker99]

14. Hi PA-DEM!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[mountebank]

12. No "official" reports = no coverage

Remember also that the matter got refered to the JD well before the media widely reported it. Which makes sense because no one in the government was issuing press releases about it, which is about all the media covers. But they found out about it (mainly because the alternative media wouldn't let it die), and it was an "official" happening, and so they reported.

But now nothing "official" is happening. But, as we know, that doesn't mean nothing is happening. They are investigating and, yeah, the CIA won't let it die - hopefully we can count on that.

There's just no "story" right now, which kind of makes sense. What we need is an investigative insider to give us the scoop. But they're all too spineless or got fired years ago.

[OldCurmudgeon]

18. The timing of leaks

can give you a good hint as to the where they came from, and their motivation.

For example, I would not be suprised at all to see a leak show up in the media on right around Thanksgiving. It would be a perfect time
for ShrubCo to pre-emptively leak damaging information at a time when the public isn't paying attention.

[number6]

13. "Whats up with the Plame/CIA leak?" I'd like to know...

traitors in the government; not important
Michael Jackson circus; 1 hour specials ...

[DoYouEverWonder]

17. I saw Joe Wilson in Gainesville last week

at the end of his speech someone asked him if he thought this story was going to die. Half under his breath he said, "Don't worry, I won't let it."

Seems to me he's letting things take their course with the DOJ investigation and then he and the CIA will decide what their next move will be.

He was also asked if he and his wife would file a civil suit, but even thought they had thought about it, they didn't want to take that route at this point because then it would politicize the situation.

Either way, this story is not dead, it's just on a back burner simmering.

[blm]

29. And that's why the media will not allow Wilson to be heard anymore

in a public way. He's on John Kerry's team with other foreign policy experts and intel community. They have the goods on BushInc. and so Rove wants Kerry beat in the primary so they won't have to face the whole case in the general. The media is doing their best to accomodate Herr Rove.

[mmonk]

19. Welcome to the new America

where dissent is treason and treasonous acts are patriotic.

[tlb]

21. Wilson himself dropped the ball.

The first week of the story, Lawrence o'Donnel predicted it would all blow over in thirty days. That was just about right before the story faded.

I think it might have had more effect if Wilson hadn't been so openly eager to play the role of democratic avenger ( ie -- advisor and contributor to Kerry, advisor to groups of democratic congressmen, anitBush editorialist, newsshow talking head, and recall his daydream how his obituary would begin he was the man who did the most harm to George Bush).) His ego, and his eagerness to assault Bush was more noticable and made a stronger impression then the actual but non-televised leak.

Had he played it straight the general public might have taken him for something other then yet one more democrat trying to take down a republican in the 2004 election runup. So openly taking a partisan role, he made it very easy for the press and public to marginalize and ignore the story.

Perhaps the same would have happened regardless, but he was his own worst enemy.

[KoKo]

23. John Dean advised him to start a "Civil Suit" and the govt. would have to

answer many subpeona's and be hassled by that. Dean said that was how much of Watergate was done in the background. Remember than Paula Jones
was allowed to go foraward with a Civil Suit and how that dogged Clinton.

I really never understood why Wilson didn't follow Dean's advice. Dean spent a whole column addressed to Wilson urging him to do that.

It's very odd.....but maybe he got threats that were so serious, he had to back down.

[tlb]

26. I'd forgotten the Deran item but that fits in with my thesis.

Lawyers patiently working in the backround wouldn't give Wilson the same exposure. He liked the limelight a little too much.

[11 Bravo]

22. Yeah, but Michael Jackson had two cups of coffee with breakfast...

followed by a healthy dump. Get your priorities straight, please.

on edit: typo

[FlyByNight]

24. I was wondering about the Plame/CIA leak too

Seems to be dead and buried. Swept under the rug. Whitewashed.

Lucky for us, we now have Michael Jackson for a truly wonderful and meaningless distraction.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

25. That's what people said about Watergate when it first appeared in print.

[tom_paine]

28. Yes, but that was when we had a Free Press and a fluorishing Republic

A strong Constitution and so many other things that simply don't exist today.

I hope you are right, M_L_D, but to compare Wategate during the Days of the Old Republic (perhaps even the height of the Old Republic) and these degenerate and cowardly days of Imperial Amerika...

...well, let's just say I am hopeful but I'll believe it when I see it and not before.

[blm]

33. Big difference in the press.

That's why the focus we'll have will ONLY come as part of the general election.

[tom_paine]

27. The Imperial Family is immune from the Rule of Law

It's as simple as that.

Oh, oh, I know, Bushevik Reichsmarschall Ashcroft will bring his Masters to justice!

Heh, might as well hope for Himmler to arrest Hitler or even one of his staff like Goebbels or Heydrich, for there is the same cahnce that would happen.

0%. Not 1x 10-5%...0%

Remember when Amerika was free?

[Zomby Woof]

30. not surprising

Of course, some people said Bush was "toast", which of course, the Plame leak was the 4,982nd criminal incident leading to that time-honored (but always inaccurate) prediction.

What's the next toast on the menu??

[truthspeaker]

32. it didn't involve a blow job

At least not a literal one. The figurative blowjob the US press has been giving Karl Rove for three years doesn't count.