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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 02:37 PM
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Republican ad attacks Presidential candidates.
Edited on Fri Nov-21-03 02:47 PM by Cleita
I got this in my email today from MoveOn.org. Also, it is being discussed on Inside Politics with Judy Woodruff.

“Today the GOP crossed the line. In their first ad for the 2004 election, they implicitly accuse Democratic presidential candidates of "attacking the president for attacking terrorists." The ad doesn't question opponents' ideas, it questions their commitment to America. But there is nothing more un-American than attacking an adversary's patriotism for political gain.” Ed Paraiser

http://www.moveon.org/

So this is how it starts, the accusations of being unpatriotic and un-American.

As a referesher here is the statement from Herman Goering in Nuremberg after the war.

"Gustave Gilbert, a German-speaking intelligence officer and psychologist who was granted free access by the Allies to all the prisoners held in the Nuremberg jail. Gilbert kept a journal of his observations of the proceedings and his conversations with the prisoners, which he later published in the book 'Nuremberg Diary'."

'Why, of course, the people don't want war,' Goering shrugged. 'Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.'

'There is one difference,' I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.'

'Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.'

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.htm
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:00 PM
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1. this
is the first in a series of many to follow. $200,000,000 to satuated the airwaves with lies. "revolution."
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:00 PM
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2. Just a little kick for DU'ers who haven't seen the
Goering quotes before.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:09 PM
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3. And, I'm sure
We ain't seen nothing yet - rolling pictures of bin Laden, the eventual Dem nominee, then Saddam, then the collapsing WTC... push polling galore... dirty tricks to be determined (I'm sure right before a debate, something big will happen to change the focus of the questions...a la Rove saying that the office was bugged when Rove himself did the bugging)

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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:33 PM
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4. I thought most Dems were supporting him when he was fighting terrorists?
It's only when he unilaterally decided to preemptively attack the country of Iraq, with no proof, that the Democrats split with him on the "war on terrorism". He forgot the war on terrorism and went off on his own little crusade to fight his old nemesis, Saddam Hussein, and got us into a real pickle...
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 04:00 PM
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5. This is true.
However, I think there is the aspect of distraction here too. If we are at war, so the cannard goes, we will be united against a common enemy, or so they think. Then Bush emerges as a heroic war time President. *wave American flags* We know it's a bunch of shit, but the right wing thinks this is how to unite and distract the nation in fighting a dispicable enemy, so they say, while they give away all our rights and money to the corporations they serve and profit from.
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