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Wed Nov-26-03 07:31 PM
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I still can't get over this even though it's been said to death:
When conservatives justify such things as homophobia, slavery/segregation, and the need for women to be submissive to their husbands, they always blabber on about Mosaic Law and the Holiness Code in Leviticus and crap like that.
Contrast that to liberals, who discuss the beautiful relationship between Ruth and Naomi, or who stirringly quote Jesus Christ in their quest for Black liberation and racial equality.
Makes you smile, doesn't it.
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Wed Nov-26-03 07:32 PM
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1. I don't quote the bible at all... just a book... |
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Wed Nov-26-03 08:42 PM
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11. but arent you a member of |
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The racist religious right-wing called "a gun owner" :-)
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Wed Nov-26-03 07:34 PM
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People with agendas use religion to justify them. Religion itself has no agenda other than its own survival.
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Wed Nov-26-03 07:35 PM
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I love Krishtens, they enlighten my life with phony patriotism, quotes from the bible, when its only a fantasy book, hypocritical behavior, they go to church and waste a good day I love Krishtens.
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Wed Nov-26-03 07:39 PM
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Sometimes South Sea Islanders have them for dinner.
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Wed Nov-26-03 08:58 PM
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13. That's highly insulting to Christains, Jews, and Muslims alike. |
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Edited on Wed Nov-26-03 08:59 PM by JohnLocke
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Wed Nov-26-03 07:40 PM
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5. The Bible is full of contradictions. |
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That's because it is a compendium of history, literature and religious teaching from different authors, different religions and different cultures. There are stories that can be used as teaching tools to bring people together with a common belief and a lesson to be learned, but it certainly should never be taken literally. It is only as truthful as the humans who wrote it.
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Wed Nov-26-03 11:09 PM
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14. in the recent debate when they asked wesley clark about the religious |
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half of america versus the half that did not go to church. I would have loved him to say that there were religious people who do not go to church at all. One time I got some preacher coming up my walk when I was watering the lawn and I told him to go away and "Even people who water their lawn have a religion" I just did not tell him which one it was.
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Wed Nov-26-03 07:54 PM
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is that republicans have told Christians that they are the way of God. They have fed people that there are no "good people" in the democratic party. It is crazy. I live in Indiana so I see it first hand. Christians aren't bad, it is the Hitler style propaganda that is effecting their ability to think for themselves. I am a Christian, but that administration is using the Lords name in Vain.
:hi:
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Wed Nov-26-03 08:29 PM
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7. Exactly: "We've made it simple for you folks." |
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"Democratics are devils, Republicans are Christians. It's that easy to do the right thing. Dems want you to kill your babies and turn us into Commies. You'll never have to think you're way through another election again, because we are the only party on Gawd's side."
Sickeningly simple, isn't it? They never have to think about it again. No wonder all they can do is spout useless rhetoric ("Tax and spend", etc.) when confronted with a logical argument about the issues.
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Wed Nov-26-03 08:33 PM
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9. and that explanation is why they win |
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As a matter of fact, the way the Republicans infiltrate and control Protestant churches in the US is through a well organized, rather complex system, and assuming it's just simple minded people being told "Republicans good!" is the reason why the Democrats haven't been able to fight it.
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Wed Nov-26-03 08:56 PM
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12. I am not saying Christians are stupid... |
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i am just saying that they are being hijacked. I am in no way excusing the actions of the ones who preach hate. That is not the God I believe in. I was just ginving some insight into the problem. It just seems that those that believe the propaganda will not even come to the table much less be open to ideas.
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Wed Nov-26-03 08:32 PM
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8. Two kinds and I am neither |
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Like I told my daughter today, the kind of Christians Team Bush has are the ones who like to do a lot of killing and profiteering while hiding behind a cross.
I hope the real Christians get busy real soon.
Julie
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Wed Nov-26-03 08:40 PM
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I was at the mall the other day. Just minding my bussiness shopping for gifts, when a guy comes up to me trying to get me to join his colt. He starts talking about my sins, which gives away his colt right away. I ask if he is baptist, his reply was yes. I listened for awhile, they amuse me. He asks if i believe in the 10 commandments. I say, no the Romans invented the 10 commandments to scare people into doing what they say. It left him speechless. He asked if i would stop by his church to repent my sins...blah blah blah. I ask if i can bring my boyfriend (im a guy) You should have seen the look on his face. He goes on with the repenting my sins for being gay, but im not really gay i just wanted to piss him off for messing with me. Long story short, i eventually duck into a shop in the mall and they decided to just leave the gay guy alone in his sins. I hate religion.
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Wed Nov-26-03 11:15 PM
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15. My dad used to drag the Mormons at the front door |
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into the house and try to convert them to "Christianity", preferably So. Baptist. I figured they deserved it for running around knocking on peoples' doors.
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Wed Nov-26-03 11:19 PM
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16. There is also a class segment they are after that is not wealthy: |
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People who are so poor that ONLY religion gives them hope, so they buy the "We're good, Dems bad" routine.
Then there's a segment of middle class that fell for the "keeping up with the Jones" routine and the materialism of the 1980's. They are trying to identify sociologically with the very wealthy by belonging to the same party. I guess they figure there's a payoff down the road. What they don't realize is that the payoff is out of their 401(k)'s, their kids' future, clean air and water, etc.
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