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Cascadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:32 AM
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Have you ever called Bush "President"?
Ever since he took the White House, I have never ever considered him President. I would call him the "so-called President" or Thief in Chief but never "President". How about you?


John
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:33 AM
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1. Usually just "Bush" is sufficient
I'm usually more curious about the views of others than I am interested in proclaiming my own, so I like to keep my political views neutral with strangers. If asked my opinion, though, watch out. :)
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fabius Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:34 AM
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2. Regret to say, I have.
That was before I read Palast's book.
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Momof1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:40 AM
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3. Sort of kinda
but only when yelling at my mom. I say "Guess what he is doing now, you know the asshole president that you voted for"

Needless to say, I haven't been invited to many family gatherings, in a while.

But, I have hope with my dad, at least he Understands...
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politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:42 AM
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4. ? Maybe. Usually Bush in public.
At Home, he's the alarming statistic and the awful fact.

And a lot worse.

Politicat
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kainah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:42 AM
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5. Yes, to get people to listen to me
I table at the Univ of WY every Wednesday for Stand Up for Peace and we run into more than a few conservative students and/or ROTC types. Only a few of them will even come near enough to begin to talk with us but, when they do, I take my cue from them. If they consistently call him "President Bush (sic)," I will do so, too, until they listen to me. But, in my head I am always saying "pResident bush (sic)." If they can only hear me when I offer the respect they demand, I'll give that to them in exchange for them hearing my larger message.
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impeach the gop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:42 AM
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6. I'd rather eat shit and die
than have that puss head's coming from my lips. I spit in his face though :-)
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Eroshan Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:33 PM
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46. POTUS? Never SCROTUS Definately
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:44 AM
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7. Nope
Hell, it hurts even to speak his name.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:45 AM
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8. Sure. Why not? I like to pick my battles; and semantics games ain't useful
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Hogarth Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:50 AM
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9. Not with a capital P, no.
Resident Bush is as far as I'll go in my thinking. Time for bed just after I order some holiday pretzels to be sent to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

I probably shouldn't have spoken that aloud as I typed. Mari's trying to sleep.

Best to all.

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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:52 AM
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10. NEVER! (long list of unspeakably vile expletives deleted)
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 02:53 AM
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11. the TOS would not permit me to print what I usually call him, but suffice
it to say, the honourable title of "president" has never crossed my lips when speaking of this usurper.

and contrary to what some people say, words do mean something, and it is not simply a GAME of semantics the red queen may say <"words mean what I say they mean" but every single time we use a word like president, it is granting credence to the premise that the man is legitimate. NO f****** way.
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 03:12 AM
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12. NEVER
:puke:
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 03:12 AM
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13. If I can remember the list....
Moron-in-thief
His Fraudulency
Idiot Son of an Asshole
Fucking Piece of Shit
Dip W Shit
Junior

And of course, "pResdident". But that's as close as I get. He's not the President regardless of what the Supreme Court and FAUX News say.
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RapidCreek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 03:15 AM
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14. Nope..he's AWOL George to me...always was always will be.
RC
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 03:22 AM
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15. No.
Usually the Resident or Bush. I just can't make myself call him President. And it grates on my nerves when I hear others call him the President.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 03:23 AM
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16. HMMM
A lot of times it depends on the POINT you are trying to make and who the company is. Theres no need in saying "DUMBASS" with a stranger they may not know which "dumbass" im refering too. At work, (Where i work with predominantely conservatives I call him "that asswipe") With my mom and dad i always say The PResident, because they are just that way. BUSH is what i use when im just making a statement and dont really want the other person to know which way i feel.
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 03:25 AM
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17. one more thing
I forgot to add that my favorite nickname for him is "TIPSY McDUMBASS", crack addict is a close second followed by COKEHEAD
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 03:49 AM
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18. He hasn't been
elected by the people, but he hasn't been thrown out by the people either. So he is. If I were to meet him, I would call him "Sir".
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 03:54 AM
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19. In context
He has that title and sometimes it's important to use it so people remember that he's got the title, like it or not, legal or not.
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 04:09 AM
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20. No - NEVER!!!!
I refer to him as "the squatter in the White House" or the man who's illegally in Al's place. I have never uttered the words because he's not - plain and simple.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 12:44 AM
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58. Yeah, he is
plain and simple, like it or not.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 04:13 AM
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21. Absolutely not...
I only refer to him as "the chimp" no matter who I'm talking to. The only person I currently refer to as the President is the man who won the 2000 election -- Al Gore.

Last November at a book signing I had the privilege of meeting the legitimately elected President, addressed him as such, and introduced my 10 year old daughter to him as "the real President." He smiled and said "You're very kind" - no effort to refute me. He knows he was robbed.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 05:25 AM
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22. Well of course
He was President of Arbusto, right?
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 05:27 AM
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23. NEVER...
I always refer to him as the chimp, though I know I shouldn't because it is demeaning to primates.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 05:44 AM
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24. No way!
I call him bush, in a very distainful voice, or shrub, or president pinocchio, or the so-called president.

At home, and among friends, I call him "that fucking bush." My daughter started it, and I just picked up the habit.
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dand Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 05:45 AM
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25. Never !
Shit for brains is all I can think of when he comes to mind.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 05:51 AM
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26. Yes
It occasionally comes in handy when I want to underscore a political or ethical point I'm making.

I'll be double-dog-damned if I let that fence-post turtle dictate the way I use the language.

But if you personally don't use the word "President" with the Name of the Beast with a Thousand Lies, that's understandable. "No Harm, No Foul" -- the besmirching of the office of the Presidency by the Unelected Coward-in-Chief is enough to make any patriotic American tongue-tied.

--bkl
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:20 PM
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27. Nope.
Not my president! :puke:
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onebigbadwulf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:21 PM
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28. I call him "your president" to republicans
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:22 PM
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29. Many times...
but always with air-quotes
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:23 PM
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30. No!
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PissedOffPollyana Donating Member (258 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:32 PM
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31. Gone as far as...
... "Usurper-in-Chief" (my personal favorite) and "guy who calls himself the President".

Why should I call this meat-puppet "President"? It would be rather insulting to President Gore.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:33 PM
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32. No, It's Either Junior or Bush
I prefer Junior as it has diminuitive connotations.
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:41 PM
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33. No and never will
Never even called the old man "President" either. Can't stand anyone in that trashy family.
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waywest Donating Member (457 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 12:48 PM
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34. Oxymoron.
Or oxymoran? Those words, in that order, will not cross my lips.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:07 PM
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35. I use "technically the president"
Technically, Bush is president. I like to underscore Bush's tenuous legitimacy while not looking like I am trying to avoid calling him the president.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:09 PM
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36. never
He was never elected. It didn't happen.
ergo sum
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:13 PM
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37. Precisely 3 times
Twice by accident (which absolutely appalled me) and once because in context it was necessary (tho I can't remember precisely what that circumstance was -- I only remember really resisting having to do it).

I even hate it when I hear Dems on TV call him President. :puke:

Eloriel
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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:14 PM
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38. Yes.
Because I often am discussing things with folks honestly willing to discuss and listen to other points of view. However, it I come in with a combative attitude or inflammatory language, I undermine all chances for persuation.

So sometimes I remind people that Gore won the popular vote. But I don't take the same point of view that many of you do. The Supreme Court is the highest law of the land. I don't agree with their decision in 2000, and I'm sure that politics played a role. But its done. It's over. The 2000 election/decisions are never going to change, and guess what Bush is the President. And you know, if there had been a close election, and it looked like Gore had one, then Bush took back his concession later on, and a dispute insued and it went to the Supreme Court and the Court ruled in favor of Gore and Gore took the office of President, do you know what we'd do? We'd call him the President. We'd call him the President even if Bush had won the popular vote. We'd call him the president regardless of the fact that the Surpreme Court made the decision. So let's just dial the hyporcisy down a little but.

I choose to pick my battles and I think continually dragging the debate back to 2000 is a silly and pointless mistake. He's acknowledged as the President of the United States by the international communtity, he has the authroity to send our troops to war and death, and screw our country over - its high time we started calling him the President and then demonstrating how utterly inept he is at his job.
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Mr. Jinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:15 PM
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39. I call him a lot of other things
However, The Idiot is one that works the best.
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onecitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:28 PM
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40. No NEVER........
and I won't call him any cutesy name like w. And I will not capitalize his name. Never, ever!
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:38 PM
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41. Never. He's just "Bush* to me. n/t
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:39 PM
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42. Occasionally.
Sometimes it just slips out.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:40 PM
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43. I'm very careful not to.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:41 PM
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44. I used to call him jackass, but now, thanks to Sally Baron,
it's "whistle-ass. Or sometimes just moran. or idiot.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 01:53 PM
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45. i call him curious george
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 05:26 PM
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47. Nope, Zilch, Zip. "His Fraudulency" Fills the Bill
Or "lord," as in "drunk as a lord." Shrub, pResident, putz.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 09:15 PM
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48. Never!!!! Didn't Ronnie, either. n/t
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cedahlia Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 09:30 PM
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49. I make it a point never to show him that respect
I've written several papers in college these past couple of years where I've talked about him. I don't think I could get away with calling him what I'd like to in a formal paper, so in that case it's just plain "Bush" when I do have to refer to him. In casual conversation, it's usually "idiot," "arrogant asshole," "evil piece of shit," etc.
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 10:04 PM
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50. Yes
But I always add, unelected, selected.
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CSI Willows Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 10:09 PM
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51. I try to not
but sometimes it has slipped out. Just like, two times over the past three years. But it's usually "Resident Bush" or "Chimp" or "Dubya". I also use "so-called President" often.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 10:22 PM
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52. Never! And I refuse to even capitalize the "b" in his name.
Although when I talk to my bush-loving parents, I will sometimes refer to him as "YOUR president" Then they'll object to that phrasing and tell me he's my pres too, at which time I'll refute that comment.
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nemo137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:50 PM
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53. unfortunatly, the man sits in the oval office, signs bills, and
more or less does all the presidential "things." i don't like it for shit, but there you have it. so yes, i refer to him as the president.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:52 PM
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54. NOPE! It's always bush* or some other name! n/t
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karlschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-03 11:58 PM
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55. Probably in an unguarded moment, a time or two...but
Yes, I do hate George Bush. Mainly, but not exclusively
on a personal and visceral level. I despise his arrogance, his plutocratic persona, his bogus "conservative" principles, his indifference to popular opinion, his disdain for middle-class citizens, his delusions of grandeur and hegemonic adventures, and his non-stop outright and blatent lies. He is a wart on the ass of democracy, an infected chancre filled with the pus of true evil...a man without a shred of integrity and a circulatory system filled with the very oil he tried three times to find, produce and sell, but failed miserably to do any of that after being given, gratis, the means with which to do it.

He is a very bad human who tries to make others believe he is good. And that is far worse than a bad human who admits it. Bush has absolutely no redeeming social, moral, ethical, political or human qualities. I would trust a jackal before I would trust Bush. I would entrust my children to Charles Manson before I would entrust them to this poor excuse for a person.

If he knocked on my front door and offered me a million dollars with "no catch" I would refuse, because there would BE a "catch."

Although I am no longer a Christian, I know perfectly well what a proper adherence to that faith involves and requires. Bush fails every test. And that is truly ironic, because I embrace the teachings of Jesus although I do not consider myself Christian, but Bush who does make the claim violates everything his adopted 'favorite philosopher' taught. He is a hypocrite, a liar, a thief and a pox on our American house.

I want some justice done. I want this awful excuse for a human being to be tried, judged and sentenced for his all too obvious crimes against the earth. This is not vengeance, although I do not exclude some from the realm of appropriate action; it is simply a just and fair response to the evil he has perpetrated against "we the people."

As one who teeters on that wobbly fence between atheism and agnosticism, I do not believe in the existence of Satan, but it seems clear that there are some few people who embody the essence of Satan's
supposed attributes. They are generally not of great moment, causing concern and misery to a few, but George Bush merges true evil with the happenstance of having the ability to unleash a literal Hell on the planet.

Perhaps it is wrong to hate, but one must consider why the concept exists if there is no proper venue in which to exercise it.


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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 12:01 AM
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56. No
Edited on Fri Nov-28-03 12:02 AM by Catt03
he was not elected president.

That's just the way it is.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 12:05 AM
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57. In the heat of an argument, once in a while, but I always catch myself.
If I'm with people on the same wavelength - or even friends who may just be open-minded and who know me well enough to know I speak my mind - I refer to him as The Traitor. Sometimes Chimpy McTraitor.

But he is NOT the president. He is the occupier in the White House. HE DID NOT WIN AND DOES NOT REPRESENT US.

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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 12:47 AM
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59. not once
His father, yes - legally elected, although I detested him just as much. But his simian spawn will forver be the asterisk resident of the White House.
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 10:57 AM
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60. Smirk,Bush,or former governor of Texas.Never President
xx
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:07 AM
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61. the ...Un-President Bush
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:08 AM
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62. I didn't know president
was the correct term for emperor.
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