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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:56 PM
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Nah, the Council of Concerned Citizens (CCC) isn't a racist organization
Edited on Fri Nov-28-03 11:56 PM by WilliamPitt
So I'm pursuing WhiteRoseSociety.org's issue with Google - they won't host his site with the words 'Impeach Bush' on it because that advocates against a particular group. I typed 'stormfront' into the search, and boom, up comes StormFront.org, the premiere White Power skinhead website on the net. I proved my Google point...

...but then saw a link on the StormFront page called 'StormFront for kids.' After I cleaned the vomit off my keyboard, I did some poking around at the page dedicated to recruiting children into the White Power world. Found this:



Hm. No connection here. None.

By the way, the old guy there is the former Governor of Mississippi.

StormFront: http://www.stormfront.org/

StormFront for kids: http://kids.stormfront.org/
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RedSox02 Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-03 11:59 PM
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1. Great Find Will!
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 12:01 AM by RedSox02
I Remember visting the CofCC website a few times, I was a curious one. On the front page once was an unflattering picture of the Williams Sisters (black tennis players). Then of course there is their wonderful hatred for Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King displayed in thoughtful essays. What a lovely bunch.


On edit: Oh yeah and that picture of that poor innocent kid with that decrepid old racist is really disturbing Will.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:03 AM
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2. If that site was written by a 14 year old
then I'm George Walker Bush.

some Vile Chit out there
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RedSox02 Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:10 AM
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12. Love this quote:
" I will start by introducing myself, my name is Derek. I am fourteen years old and I am the webmaster of kids.stormfront.org. I used to be in public school, it is a shame how many white minds are wasted in that system. I am now in home school. I am no longer attacked by gangs of non-whites and I spend most of my day learning, instead of tutoring the slowest kids in my class. In addition to my schoolwork, I am also learning pride in myself, my family and my people. "


This is clearly not written by a fourteen year old, unless of course we are talking about that Kyle Williams kid who writes for WorldNetDaily who, coincidentally, is also 14 and a home-schooler, but I digress. Anyone who makes a generic claim that they are attacked by gangs of non-whites everyday in public school doesn't sound very convincing. Perhaps spewing the N word though might be part of this kid's problem.

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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:03 AM
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3. What was the problem with WRS and CCC?
I missed something...

L-
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:06 AM
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7. It was WRS and Google
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:10 AM
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11. The issue looks to be Non Profit advertising on Google
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 12:13 AM by Lithos
To get one of the boxes on the right of their web page. It doesn't look like it is an issue of being listed or not.

Does Google push ads for CCofC or StormFront? If so, then there is a case.

L-

On Edit:

It's about Adwords see picture for where they show up on Google's site.





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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:03 AM
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4. CCC gets a wink and a nod from Haley Barbour, Trent Lott and half
of the elected confederacy. It's more than likely a badge of honor for some officials to belong to the KKK of the 21st century.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:04 AM
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5. Those lying liars are so good at denial...
...sometimes it's refreshing to see the proof of what seems so obvious.

And speaking of Lying Liars, congrats on your recent invite! Al, Molly, you... What, O'Reilly couldn't make it so you're the substitute?

:toast:
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Ohio Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:05 AM
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6. One does wonder about this, though.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:07 AM
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8. One twitching brain cell in the oatmeal
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Ohio Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:09 AM
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10. I'm thinking they don't get it.
They just like the idea of killing brown people, and if you don't have a reason, all the better.
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youngred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:09 AM
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9. was wondering about that too
wouldn't they be in favour of bombing all the mud races?
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Ohio Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:11 AM
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13. Yeah, I think they are actually happy not to have a reason.
That's the only possible explanation. Or they're dumber than I think, which is also a distinct possibility.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:59 AM
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25. OMG I love your picture! Although it gave me a good chuckle, sadly
it speaks volumes of truth.
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RedSox02 Donating Member (804 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:17 AM
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14. Hey Will!
You should email this info and some background to Joe Conason. In his daily Salon Journal he usually will write on stories like this. You hit two birds with one stone here, showing some hypocrisy on Google's part, and also revealing the CofCC's ties to a blatant white supremacist group.
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Lithos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:24 AM
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15. I thought the connection was already well established
That CofCC was a racist group? The picture supporting the freedom of Ernst Zundel should be more than enough. Zundel is a major looney whose Samisdat press is one of the major publishers of Nazi, Neo-Nazi and Holocaust Revisionistic literature.

L-

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Devlzown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:41 AM
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16. Is that the same CCC that was around
in the '60's? Even then it was referred to as "the uptown KKK." Is that Kirk Fordice? I thought he was a rather moderate Republican when he was in office. Guess not.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:21 AM
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17. The issue is sponsored links.
The issue isn't will they post a regular link to a website, or provide server space for a website.

The issue is whether they will allow a website to buy sponsored-link status.
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SeveneightyWhoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:27 AM
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18. CCC, KKK
Is the abbreviation just a coincidence? Me thinketh not.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:36 AM
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19. Wasn't the CCC
referred to prominently in Stephen King's IT? Something involving a giant bird, and a fire at the (fictional) E Company officer's club?

Or am I waaaaay off base here?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 09:49 AM
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23. The Legion of White Decency
started the fire at the Black Spot. In Maine.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:43 AM
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20. While in office
Ed Meese address a CCC convention.
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canuckagainstBush Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 01:55 AM
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21. I can smell...
...the hypocricy. Just the word "Stormfront" makes me shiver.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 09:43 AM
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22. My prediction -- White Supremacy will be protected like religion.
It's not much of a prediction, I'm afraid. There are already conservative scholars, and perhaps one court case on the books which view the beliefs of White Supremacy to be in line with religion as it's defined under Title 7. The law basically extends the definition of religious practices to include moral or ethical beliefs as to what is right or wrong which are sincerely held with the strength of traditional religious beliefs.

Of course, once it's recognized on a national level, it opens the door to a great many political organizations.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:51 AM
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24. Seen it before
Was trying to forget that image. :puke:
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veganwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:08 PM
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26. the banner says council of conserv[ative] citizens
which, from the company they keep, is no better, but lets not jump the gun.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:09 PM
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27. It would seem to me WRS has a legitimate complaint in light of your
find. Groups such as CCC and stormfront are scary, very scary.
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