Dean is on CSPAN

[dsc]

his foreign policy speech (I think)

[Dudley_DUright]

1. Yes, it is a repeat of his FP speech this AM

n/t

[janx]

44. Did any TV channel air the speech in its entirety this AM?

A couple of the cable channels aired parts of it, but I wasn't sure if any channel or network aired the whole thing.

Did you get a chance to see the whole speech, questions, etc.?

I'm just curious.

[tsipple]

2. WELL Worth Watching

Keep watching for the Q&A, too. Click here for the C-SPAN video page.

[KaraokeKarlton]

12. It sure is

Damn he's good on this. He is covering everything! Go Dean!

[LittleDannySlowhorse]

3. Listen to that virulent HATE SPEECH!!!!

Maybe it's just me, but Dean has never appeared "hateful" or "angry" to me. It seems like he's just laying it out and avoiding "dressing it up" in more PR-like terms.

[janx]

36. That's true. And he's very colorful doing it.

I loved his response to the woman who asked him about Madeline Albright.

[Cha]

4. Grreat! Go Get 'em Dean.. with the Truth.

Thanks for heads up! :)

[AP]

5. never mind

[tsipple]

6. Yes, Dean is a smooth speaker

George W. Bush, however...

[slinkerwink]

7. glad to hear you bite back your tongue

;-)

[Sean Reynolds]

8. I don't....

But that will not deter me from supporting him. He might not sound the best, but his words have more meaning. They're more genuine than most of the other candidates.

[KaraokeKarlton]

9. I love that he sometimes stumbles over a word

It makes him human instead of a dull monotone typical politician.

This is really a GREAT speech!

[bearfartinthewoods]

10. reading his speech...what, no teleprompter?

[slinkerwink]

11. no teleprompter like dumb bush

;-)

[dsc]

14. He isn't President yet

I would assume he has to rely upon the resources of the place at which he is speaking.

[janx]

37. Yes--like the typewritten pages in front of him.

It was great.

[frank frankly]

13. great point about the Nat'l Guard going to Iraq

here in Pittsburgh, they are sending them over there this month

[janx]

42. I agree. The National Guard is supposed to protect

us at home, not abroad.

[Myra]

15. I'd watch but (Clark) is on CSPAN...

Childish to post this in a Dean thread?
Yeah.
Just like it was childish for someone to post
this in a Clark thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=916933
(The exact kind of thing that makes some Dean supporters
reflect so poorly on their candidate.)

[KaraokeKarlton]

17. Hi Myra!

I hope Clark has a great interview!

Thanks for kicking this Dean thread to the top!

kiss kiss

[frank frankly]

18. weird circular logic, myra...

but i will check out clark's speech, too. because i don't think this is a dean speech, it is a speech from a democratic candidate

and your post wasn't rude, I just find it strange to fight rudeness with rudeness.

you know?

:hi:

[mzmolly]

22. POT....KETTLE...BLACK...

:hi:

[Cha]

27. I don't think it's "childish" ....

we've seen "childish" on this board and posting another candidate's time on c-span does not constitute immature, IMO.

[KaraokeKarlton]

16. Dean talking about racial profiling and Islam

good stuff.

[slinkerwink]

20. I really like that in him.

[KaraokeKarlton]

21. me too

slink, me too.

[janx]

39. He wasn't afraid to mention the Saudis!

!

[janx]

45. Also, his emphasis on the Palestinian and Isreali PEOPLE

versus their governments...fantastic.

It needed to be said.

[KaraokeKarlton]

19. You're welcome Myra

Gotcha!

[Dudley_DUright]

23. How refreshing to have someone that can answer questions

with thoughtful complete sentences.

[mzmolly]

25. How refreshing that he's not spinning back in support of the War like

other Dems with out a back bone.

[tsipple]

24. The "Dean Doctrine" Introduced Today, 12/15/03

That's awesome. Go, Dean!

[slinkerwink]

26. The Dean Doctrine.....what a beautiful sound that makes.....

;-)

[janx]

34. Think about our allies as they watched this.

They must be heaving great sighs of relief and getting their hopes up.

[JustJoe]

28. Can I be honest?

I'm for Dean all the way, given money,
attended Meetups.....

This speech was not him at his best or
even close. I was surprised at how lackluster
& offhanded his delivery was, after having seen
him at campaign speeches where he is familiar
with the message he's giving. Very few people
are any good at reading speeches, and Dean is
not one of them, if this speech is any indicator.
I read the text beforehand and was impressed
with the content, then saw the speech and was
disappointed. A teleprompter might help, but he was
just simply too unengaged with what he was reading.
It was almost a few times as if he'd never seen
what he was reading before. He seemed impatient to
get it over with. He's got to get to know the
speech better in important addreses like this.
... Having said that, his answering of questions
after the speech shows him at his best. He is
determined, engaged, compelling and convincing.
He believes and means what he is saying and his
knowledge and commitment come through strong and clear.

[KaraokeKarlton]

29. policy speeches aren't fire and brimstone

and are alot more dull. That's just how it is.

His answers were absolutely magnificent after the speech!

[JustJoe]

30. Why not improve?

I'm not looking for fire & brimstone, just
more connection between the man
and what he's reading. I was first turned
onto him through a 15-minute tape of questions
& answers that a friend had given me
from a local radio show. I could tell
right then that he was a fighter and believed what
he was saying--two qualities I was looking for in
a candidate. If my first intro to him had been
this speech, I wouldn't have been impressed.
Why say, Oh, policy speeches are dull by nature?
Why not improve and make the most of them?

[janx]

33. If this is what a candidate is like coming out of the gate, as they say,

I don't think we'll have *anything* to worry about.

Do you?

[KaraokeKarlton]

35. They're directed at a different group

Policy speeches are made to get support from the stoic, politico crowd. They're sorta dull themselves so you have to speak to your audience, if you follow me.

I'd suggest that you read any policy speeches rather than watch them if you find them too tedious to follow. Stick to watching rally and stump speeches and interviews and reading the policy stuff.

[JustJoe]

38. Sorry, I can't say what I mean any more clearly.

I understand they are necessary and are
by nature not full of fireworks and arm waving.
Nevertheless, he can and should learn to deliver
them with greater engagement. Over and out.

[mzmolly]

40. Joe your fine, and I understand you...

But it was time for Dean to 'tone it down'. This was not a rally, he had to be 'Presidential' KWIM? :)

[janx]

41. Your meaning is understood and relevant. But Dean is not

very comfortable when he's scripted. And this long speech, by nature, had to be scripted.

That's why you saw him break out of the script from time to time.

I thought it was great.

[ozone_man]

43. I felt the same way, but like Karaoke says,

its a policy speech not a rally. In response to questions, he's very dynamic and spontaneous, but reading from his notes was long and he stumbles a bit. The content is the important thing and it was good.

[janx]

46. Yes indeed. It was REALLY good.

.

[janx]

32. It's a formal speech--a long one. It has to be read.

But it's funny: he can't stand having to read the whole time and breaks out of it a few times to go off on his own.

I'm sure this was planned. It was very effective.

[janx]

31. My dear God, what a contrast!

And after CSPAN aired the speech and the questions and answers, they showed video of Dean with supporters (various places) and then threw in the deer-in-the-headlights video of Chimpy.

We have to do everything we can to get Dean in the White House. He is brilliant, articulate, colorful, and passionate.

An aside: one of the first comments from the so-called reporter at the Washington Post was that Dean is the "darling of the left." It was no surprise, then, that he later stated he normally covered the Bush* administration for the Post.