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KensPen Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:47 AM
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If "chatter" is the highest since it was at 9-11
why didn't the 9-11 chatter cause any increase in alert status?

(and no not the cheesey colors they broadcast rather the alert in airports and borders etc.)
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:49 AM
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1. wondering this myself...
Isn't this a not-so-tacit admission they knew something was afoot... and did nothing?
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manic Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:51 AM
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2. ah, but I just have to use the words 'hitherto inconceivable'
and your argument falls apart.

So there.

;)
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:55 PM
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14. Yes. Who would ever conceive they would use a plane like a missile?
It was inconceivable to them. Because they did not take it seriously, even though they were warned by the Clinton Administration that al Qaeda were a serious threat to our country. They dismissed it because it was inconceivable to them. But they are admitting that tere was chatter before 9/11. Exactly, what type of "chatter" did they hear?
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:52 AM
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3. And doesn't the increased chatter
Prove Dean correct? We are no safer today than we were on 10 September 2001.
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Granite Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:29 PM
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16. Yes! I've been arguing this ad nauseum
on another board. If AQ still has the ability to make us spend upwards of $70 million per week defending the country while we are on yet another orange alert status, what does this say about the Bush* administration's effectiveness on the "war on terror"? Afterall, we've been told what a good job we've done in Afghanistan, decimating AQ leadership, how OBL has reduced terrorist funding to support the jihad in Iraq, how much safer we are with SH in custody, etc.

Looks like Iraq isn't the front-line on terror that the Bush* administration would have us believe. Based on this latest threat assessment, it looks like NY, DC, LA, Las Vegas and "undisclosed rural locations in the West and Northeast" has overtaken Baghdad for that honor.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:56 AM
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4. I'm not even sure I believe it, anymore.
They pull this shit whenever they want to distract us and make us go running to the Bushistas out of fear and panic.
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Bozola Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:57 AM
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5. Maybe they're detecting Peggy Noonan...
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KensPen Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:01 PM
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6. Yes It makes Dean seem right to me.....
Bush has us sooooo focused on nation building,
that we are losing sight of the fact that terror is a nationless enemy...
and Afghanistan, a nation we already "toppled" seems to still be the hot bed.......
oh well

"WE GOT HIM" !!!!!

YAH HOOOOO, mission completed.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:10 PM
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8. Focused on Oil Field Building!
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:08 PM
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7. That's What I Wrote Here Yesterday
So, we think alike, just in different dimensions, i guess. I thought the same thing.

Doesn't this clearly imply that we had forewarning of 9/11 and did nothing?

I realize they could have meant since 9/11, intending to say since we've been paying attention to these things. But, it sure could be interpreted to suggest that we had such chatter before 9/11 and ignored it.
The Professor
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Danocrat Donating Member (485 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:10 PM
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9. Because then they would have had to admit
that Clinton was right when he warned them that bin Laden was the biggest threat to national security.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:14 PM
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10. we, now, have Homeland Herr Ridge in place
... I know ... that's a poor variation on the color chart thing ...

I think it's a reasonable question ... particularly, in light of the delays, and other repression of 911 event investigation ... what have we the People learned? for them to know, and for us 'to trust' them?

there should have been an investigative panel of citizens organized within a week of 911, and given unlimited means to obtain the truth ...... that's what a patriotic pResident would have done ...



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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:21 PM
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11. I'm more afraid of Mr. Bush using a hit for an excuse to declare Martial
Law than I'm afraid of the hit itself.
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candy331 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:39 PM
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13. Of course Walmart, Target and
other stores earnings estimates downwards of holiday sales would have nothing to do with it. Listen in 04 when they yak about sales down because people fearful of going out shopping during Christmas week, last minute shoppers make up a sizeable amount of customers and revenue but fear alert kept them home.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:37 PM
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12. The only thing chattering
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 12:38 PM by DoYouEverWonder
are my teeth when I get cold and all of the brownshirts who are making this shit up.

GD link

edit: fixed link
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:05 PM
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15. Will this be their reason to re-instate the draft?
This alleged terror threat?
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:20 PM
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17. There was an increase in alert status alright.
Wasn't it Ashcroft who was told not to fly commercial airlines anymore starting September '01?

They secured themselves just fine. It is we, the people (remember us?) who did not get the protection that we PAY them for.
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