DU this poll... FDR vs Raygun dime:

[BlueEyedSon]

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2003-12-05-reagan-dime_x.htm

[beyurslf]

1. Done.

60% favor FDR right now. Keep it up!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

2. repukes are winning...switch to raygun 60%..keep FDR 39%

get busy DU

[ElsewheresDaughter]

3. dupe

[billyf65]

4. Pardon my language

but this is fucking absurd!

This kind of re-writing history bullshit is so complicit in the collective stupidity of our country.

Republicans don't want a smart America. A smart America will know what crooks they are and how terribly they've governed when given a chance.

[hobbes159]

5. This needs a kick....

kick!

[ElsewheresDaughter]

6. 59% switch to Raygun...40% keep FRD on dime...get busy DU

[BigBigBear]

7. Reagan was a disgrace

wrapped in a soundbite.

[NoPasaran]

8. Done

"Supporters of the "Ronald Reagan Dime Act" said Roosevelt
and his government-expanding New Deal represented
decades past, while Reagan's conservative, anti-communist
administration ushered in society as it exists today."

They sure got that right. And our society today sucks!

[evil_orange_cat]

9. revisionism is running rampant...

hopefully this won't happen... if it does, I will deface every dime I get.

[Democrats unite]

10. This sucks!

But I do beleive in the end repukes will lose this one.

[Jack Rabbit]

11. Done

9:47 PST:

Gipper 60.01
FDR -- 39.99

[YNGW]

12. Just Wondering

What's the big thrill in pumping a poll that isn't going to matter about anything? I never have understood this. There are some people in here who actually believe that winning some obscure on-line poll is somehow going to save us all, like they scored some moral victory. There are probably people like that on the other side, too, but I really thought we libs were above this type of pettiness.

[ikojo]

50. The big deal for me is that the corporate media

accepts these types of polls as what "middle america" is thinking. Even while stating they are not "scientific" polls such as this are often used to determine slant and such.

[rasputin1952]

13. This quick-poll is absurd. One can go back to the site for multiple ...

votes. If I had the inclination, I could bounce back and forth to the site and vote 1000 times; (I'm sure that's what a fistfull of Reagan gasbags are doing).

If there is no way to keep it at one vote per person, it is a fallacy to believe taht 60% of the p
O8)

[ACK]

14. Vote now and often...

The Raygun is down like the keep punk bitch he always was.

FDR is up past 60%.

[goobergunch]

15. done

60.14%
Switch to Ronald Reagan
39.86%
Keep Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Total Votes:159079

[Muddleoftheroad]

16. FDR was great and definitely one of my favorite presidents

But there is an easy solution for this. Let them issue a special edition dime like the state quarters. We keep FDR on the dime and they get their day in the sun for Raygun.

[DinahMoeHum]

17. Nancy Reagan doesn't wan't her husband on a dime. . .

but then, the Repukes don't give a shit what she thinks.

:kick:

[linazelle]

18. I can't believe it...60% want a Reagan dime?

Welcome to crazyworld.

[LiberalFighter]

30. 60% of those that knew about the poll and wanted to vote

[BackDoorMan]

19. Fucking idiot conservatives...it's about "The March of Dimes." Polio!

"The profile of President Franklin D. Roosevelt was placed on the dime in 1946 to memorialize his 4 term Presidency, his fight to find a vaccine to prevent polio, and the volunteer movement epitomized by the March of Dimes. The coin is symbolic of the struggle to end polio through the "March of Dimes" campaign and the worldwide eradication of polio is expected in 2005. The FDR dime is a vehicle through which to explain what the volunteer spirit in America means, it would be tragic to lose that."

http://www.modimes.org/aboutus/789_821.asp

http://www.modimes.org/

[JohnLocke]

20. kick

[JohnLocke]

21. kick

[Bozola]

22. I looking forward to Reagan in the dime....

so I can enjoy swallowing them from time to time. It pleases me the thought that some day there may be a freeper who's prized Reagan souviner would have passed through my digestive tract.

[put out]

23. Done. n/t

[ochazuke]

24. Now at 58-42 in Regan's favor (11:15 PM GMT)

Isn't FDR's presence on the dime in part a tribute to the March of Dimes and it's success in the war against polio, which FDR suffered from (or maybe it was something similar, according to recent reports)?

Anyway, if there is such a connection between FDR and the March of Dimes, then it would be disrespectful to all who participated in that campaign to end that disease to replace FDR on the dime.

I think instead the government should issue a new coin, called THE REGAN which represents 1/1,000,000,000,000th of the public debt. It would of course have a negative value, and owning enough of them would impoverish your children. The Treasury would send them out to every American to show how big the debt is, and remind them who started it all.

[xchrom]

25. kick

[Deja Q]

26. Done! (PLEASE KEEP THIS KICKED, FOLKS!)

Wow, shit-face Reagan was in color yet FDR is in b&w. Speaks volumes if you look into it too much...

It's down to 57.92/42.08 in favor of Reagan. :eyes:

March of Dimes... commemoration of WW II.

Corporate fascists want Reagan because he freed them from the "evils" of regulation.

A lot of people seem to be voting, the votes keep flooding in. Could it be that the poll doesn't regulate by IP address? :evilgrin:

Added: Supporters of the "Ronald Reagan Dime Act" said Roosevelt and his government-expanding New Deal represented decades past, while Reagan's conservative, anti-communist administration ushered in society as it exists today. Repukes speak volumes when admitting this... scary shit, that...

[Piperay]

27. KICK

:kick:

[prariedogging]

28. As long as Meester Reegun hurries up and dies

I don't really care who is on a dime. With all the repuke's taxes a dime isn't worth much anyhow.

[JohnLocke]

29. kick

kick

[kayleybeth]

31. kick

:kick:

The FReepers came back.

[Dees]

32. What can you say about Ronald W. St. Reagan...

That's about what his presidency was worth. 10 friggin cents. It's all about the Repukes keeping the posturing and marketing up. It's all about keeping Repukism and conservatism in the mainstream and out in front of the American sheeple. What a coup for the Repugs. Replacing a great Democratic president with one of their own lowlifes. It would just reinforce the notion that conservative Repukism is the norm and Dems are all whackos and need replacing.

There's and old wooden one holer turned over laying in the weeds and poison ivy at a favorite federal campground of mine. It should be named the Ronald Wilson Reagan shithouse. That's as far as any monument naming should go with this bad actor. Raygun is the FDR of the Repuke party. To the Repuke simple minded they actually think he ended the cold war all by himself and put the country on the road to prosperity. FDR actually led people out of poverty and desolation while Raygun swindled people into poverty and homelessness. I will not carry any coinage in my jeans with that bastard's pic engraved on it. I despise the sumbitch.

[bostoneagle]

34. Busybodies....

I hope this is just junior, lightweight pols behind this, I find it hard to believe that any intelligent pol dem or rebup would get behind this. I even liked Reagan but have a great respect for history and FDR's contributions are undeniable and well worthy of the permanent tribute of his likeness on the dime.

[jayfish]

33. Not Much Can Be Done (About This Poll)...

at this point. It would take around 2/3 of DU all voting FDR to even tie. Thats with no RWR votes. I did notice something strange on the result page. The dateline at 11:50 EST is

01/01/2004 - Updated 0-1:48:04 AM ET-

Did I miss something?

Jay

[ButterflyBlood]

35. really?

right now FDR is winning with 53.5%

[jayfish]

41. How Weird Is That.

I should have taken a screen shot of what I saw yesterday and last night. The numbers as they stand now are not impossible but rather improbable. Last night the numbers were about 130k RWR v 99k FDR now it's about 133k RWR v. 226k FDR. I find it hard to believe that there were around 130k votes cast in nine hours (in the middle of the night on a Holiday) and only 3k were for RWR. It just doesn't add up statistically. Someone (sinister intentions or not) has been jacking around with this poll.

Jay

[YNGW]

42. Our fellow DUers...

... at least some of them anyway, get some type of strange enjoyment from flooding polls. It's as if they think if they can win a bunch of obscure, on-line polls they can claim some type of victory, a victory that hold no significance whatsoever. According to someone, this poll allowed people to cast more than one vote. So I guess those who perceive themselves as the downtrodden can walk away "feeling" good about, what is in reality, accomplishing nothing. So much for one man, one vote. Based upon this, I hope 2004 brings no complaining about Election 2000.

[jayfish]

44. Ya But 130,000 Votes?

It would seem that you would have to employ mechanical means (hack, screwup by the admins or otherwise) to make it come out like that. Also based on the time Butterfly posted it only took 2 1/2 hours to to cast 30,000+ votes for FDR v. next to 0 for RWR. I also noticed you could vote more than once in this poll. What kinda amateur hour are they running at USA Today? I disagree with you about the importance of polls however. IMHO polls help to solidify and in some cases steer true public opinion using a kind of bandwagon effect. One of the few tangible things that DU does is give voice to opinions that are not normally expressed in the publics everyday media experience. Taking those opinions to polls (in a fair manner) is a good thing.

Jay

[YNGW]

45. Could something be screwey?

Sure. Nothings perfect.

But these on-line polls being important? No way. Case in point are people who post things like "De-FReep this poll". #1 - There's no evidence it was ever FReeped in the first place. #2 - For those who participate, it's nothing more than children at play. Unfortunatley, it's also a reflection of how immature certain elements in our party have become in many respects to believe such trivial things like this are relevant. There will be people who disagree with what I just said, which is another sign of their immaturity. Several have pointed out how our Deomcratic constitutancy has no focus. We blame our Congressmen and women for not standing up, but then we find relevance in worthless on-line polls. How do we expect our own representatives to fight for us when we make things like irrelevant on-line polls something of importance? I don't blame them. If I'm a Congressional Rep and I'm looking at my fellow party members making things that are stupid into things of importance, I'm gonna sit back and do nothing, too. We can't expect them to take us seriously.

I haven't seen anyone yet on this site who is doing anymore than just sitting around and talking about wanting change. I've seen a lot of people *claim* that they're doing things, but I have no reason to believe they're telling the truth. In fact, I have every reason to believe the opposite, that they're all talk and no action. And again, unfortunately that's become another signature of our party.

Politically, 2004 is not looking pretty for our party. It may be time clean house at the end of the year. But, I'm done on this thread.

[Hippo_Tron]

36. We're winning...

And Raygun isn't going on the dime most likely cause Nancy is against it.

[SodoffBush]

37. The rightwing whackos just got down demolishing Saddam icons

and now they want to repeat the adoration propaganda bullshit w/Reagan.

If it happens, I'll be drilling holes in every dime I get.

[RebelOne]

38. FDR is in the lead

[xchrom]

39. kick

[JohnLocke]

40. kick

[linazelle]

43. kick

[ThoughtCriminal]

46. A better idea

Put Reagan's picture on Promissory Notes.

[JohnLocke]

47. kick

[RebelOne]

48. 67% to 32% in favor of FDR

Keep kicking and voting.

[ikojo]

49. Voted....FDR is winning

FDR 67.49%
Raygun 32.51%

Keep voting DUers!

[DiverDave]

51. hee-hee, that basTURD don't deserve anything

Which president should appear on the U.S. dime?

67.49%
Keep Franklin Delano Roosevelt
32.51%
Switch to Ronald Reagan
Total Votes:349694

Well maybe on the 1K bill, great symbolism