Our neighbor's "proud" e-mail----restaurant confrontation?

[Clyde39]

Our neighbor passed along a "true story" about a soldier's wife named Lori Kimble who confronted some women in a restaurant who were complaining about Bush and maligning the military. It seems the entire restaurant cheered after she finished. Our neighbor was very proud of this woman. I Googled her name and found this story all over the place. It was printed in The Washington Dispatch (never heard of it) last April. I'm wondering if any of it is true or propaganda? I'd appreciate your comments......thanks!

[mrgorth]

1. True

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/speakup.asp

[wryter2000]

2. According to snopes

According to www.snopes.com, it's more or less true. It can be traced to an indentifiable person, but they aren't willing to state that it went exactly how the story says.

[Nobody]

3. Bet you that will appear on Snopes any day now

I don't believe anything I see in email forwards. Anyone can make up a story.

How about "forwarding" a "true story" of your own?

[Nobody]

4. Snopes is ahead of me on that one. n/t

[wtmusic]

5. True...at least the event took place

Now whether Mrs. Kimble augmented the story with phrases like, 'professional baby-killers' is another question.

The most antiwar people on this whole freakin' board wouldn't go at the military that way.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

6. I've read about 4 different versions of this story

They do pretty well at making up these sorts of stories.

[madfloridian]

7. Snopes adds a telling comment. Note the source: Washington Dispatch.

SNIP..." The piece quoted above was written by Lori Kimble, a 31-year-old California native who is now a teacher in Alabama and the wife of a serviceman. She contributes occasional pieces to The Washington Dispatch, and this item was her contribution for 14 April 2003, published under the title "The Price of Freedom."

(At this point we're noting here that this item is "true" in the limited sense that it can be traced back to an identifiable first-person source who affirms it as true, not necessarily in the sense that the event related took place exactly as described by the author.)

Washington Dispatch links to Insight which is owned by Rev. Moon. I rather question its credentials for unbiased reporting.

[madfloridian]

8. Please tell your neighbor the newspaper probably owned by Rev. Moon.

Check it out. Link to Insight, then to Washington Times, then check ownership. Quite out in the open.

[Capn Sunshine]

12. Hell, the Washington Times is owned by Moon

Don't let them tell you differently.

[madfloridian]

17. I assume the Washington Dispatch is as well, don't you?

I am always suspicous of it.

[maggrwaggr]

9. it's bullshit propaganda

all these "stories" seem to be written by the same person. They have the exact same writing style.

i don't care what Snopes says, I don't buy it for a second.

Even if it's somehow based on a true incident it's being used as propaganda in an urban-legend style. (this friend of my sister's had this happen to her ....)

[Nevernose]

10. If true, it's rather bizarre

Most of the people I know who have friends/relatives in the military, or the folks I know who are actually IN the military, talk shit about Bush on a daily basis.

[Clyde39]

11. We're trying to figure out how to answer the neighbor

I agree with you about current military people and others here have said it sounds like typical right-wing propaganda. Our neighbor is a WWII vet and he thinks this incident happened recently and that it is absolutely true. He sent it to several people, us included. My husband is putting together a list of "unfriendly" things * has done to the military----maybe it will open his eyes!

[Capn Sunshine]

13. Try the Daily Misleader

MoveOn's excellent site.
from a recent one:
BUSH PAYS LIPSERVICE TO VETS, THEN SLASHES THEIR HEALTH CARE

Late last week President Bush visited combat veterans at Walter Reed
Medical Center. During his visit, he said "We have made a commitment
to the troops,and we have made a commitment to their loved ones, and
that commitment is that we will provide excellent health care -
excellent care - to anybody who is injured on the battlefield."

His comments stand in stark contrast to the policies he has pushed -
and the record he has amassed - as President. Just this year
alone,the President "announced his formal opposition to a proposal
to give National Guard and Reserve members access to the Pentagon's
health-insurance system"- a slap in the face to thousands of
troops, especially considering "a recent General Accounting Office
report estimated that

one of every five Guard members has no health insurance".

The President also this year proposed to cut $1.5 billion (14%) out
of funding for military family housing/medical facilities.This
followed his 2002 budget which, according to major veterans groups,
"fell $1.5 billion short" of adequately funding veterans care.

This is not the first time the President has staged a photo-op to
thank veterans at Walter Reed and then proposed policies that hurt
veterans. A little less than a year ago, the President visited the
medical hospital and then on the same day announced his proposal to
cut off 164,000 veterans from the VA's prescription drug discount
program.

The result of the President's harsh treatment of veterans is
that "more than 235,000 veterans are currently waiting 6 months or
more for initial medical appointments" with

"many veterans waiting 2 years just to be seen by a doctor."

At Ft. Stewart, Georgia, UPI reported "hundreds of sick and
wounded U.S. soldiers including many who served in the Iraq war are
languishing in hot cement barracks here while they wait - sometimes
for months - to see doctors." And CBS News reports that the
administration appears, in some cases, to be denying benefits to
soldiers wounded in Iraq.

Specifically, many soldiers say they are seeing their pay and health
benefits severely reduced after they are badly wounded.

[Clyde39]

14. THANKS! This is perfect!

[madfloridian]

16. Also please tell them that the Washington Dispatch is a Rev. Moon paper.

Ok? That might alert them that it could be propaganda.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

15. same here!

I've never served, but most of my family has, my Dad's a Korean War veteran, and you're lucky to hear anything even neutral about that man in our household.

[Pithlet]

18. I 'm so glad I don't get crap like this anymore

since I quit my job to stay home with the kiddies, I fell out of that email loop, so I rarely get such email now.