Michael Savage the other day said........

[SoFlaJets]

"there are no children going to bed hungry in America that's another liberal lie" these Republicans of privilege don't see what is happening in this country.It's either that or they don't WANT to see.Here's Molly Ivins on another RW child of fortune George W.Bush;

""""When the 1999 hunger stats were announced, Bush threw a tantrum. He thought it was some malign Clinton plot to make his state look bad because he was running for president. "I saw the report that children in Texas are going hungry. Where?" he demanded. "No children are going to go hungry in this state. You'd think the governor would have heard if there are pockets of hunger in Texas." You would, wouldn't you? That is the point at which ignorance becomes inexcusable. In five years, Bush had never spent time with people in the colonias, South Texas' shantytowns; he had never been to a session with Valley Interfaith, a consortium of border churches and schools and the best community organization in the state. There is no excuse for a governor to be unaware of this huge reality of Texas."""""

COPIED FROM MOTHER JONES

[DuctapeFatwa]

1. In all fairness, it's not just Republicans who "don't want to see"

Voters as a general rule, are the top 25% income tier, regardless of party affiliation.

Poverty is just not a major issue for most voters of either party.

It is not a policy that is in the long-term interest of anybody, and the crisis has now passed the point where a political solution is realistic.

[SoFlaJets]

2. I disagree

the left has always cared for the less fortunate much more than the right.We at least try to fund these programs while the GOP will have photo ops with selected people props and then slash the money right afterwards

[bobbieinok]

3. would you please expand and/or document your comment

that 'the crisis has now passed the point where a political solution is realistic.'

I'd really like to know what you mean by this.

And if this comment is accurate, what CAN we do about poverty??

[DuctapeFatwa]

7. This is not something that has happened overnight

This has been going on for decades, and the "programs" that get passed by the "left" are the equivalent of putting a band-aid on a sucking chest wound.

As long as most of the resources are in a very few hands, and the economy is one of unchecked greed and exploitation, you can't do anything about poverty.

The free market value of a day's labor has now fallen below the cost of the free market value of a day's survival.

According to the government's own figures, the cost of the average apartment is now almost 4 times the minimum wage.

What Democrats do is argue that the minimum wage should be raised a couple of dollars over a couple of years.

Whether this is done or not is irrelevant.

If your rent is $700, and you have $300, offering the landlord an extra $20 will not keep you in housing.

Although many communities are efforting to criminalize homelessness, and indirectly, poverty itself, building more prisons and stuffing them full of more poor people does not really address the problem.

Societies make choices, and choices have consequences. 'Twas ever thus.

[Fleshdancer]

4. Savage is an ignorant ass.

Not witnessing poverty doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I don't see domestic violence, but I'm not going to be stupid enough to claim it doesn't exist. :eyes:

According to the US Dept of Commerce Economics and Statistics Administration, the poverty rate and the number of poor both rose in 2001 to 32.9 million. This is up from 31.6 million in 2000.

The increase in the poverty rate in 2001 was the first year-to-year increase since 1991-92.

And here's yet another reason why we need to talk to the South about their current voting record: The poverty rate in the South increased from 12.8 percent in 2000 to 13.5 percent in 2001. The poverty rates in the Northeast, Midwest, and West did not change.

on edit: By the way, this is reason number 1,436,964 why I love my husband. He printed out the entire Poverty in the US for 2001 report for the sole purpose of debating ignorant freepers and ditto heads. The report is sitting right in front of me. :)

[Character Assassin]

5. He's one of the few people not worth listening to. Ever.

I mean, almost every talking head has something, at some time, worth saying/hearing, or share's some sympathetic point of view.

This whackjob's vitriol, however, remains a singular, manic example of exactly how not to argue, how not to reason, how not to make sense.

That's really it in a nutshell, all cruelty and immaturity aside: the guy just flat-out doesn't make sense.

[JPace]

6. We had an article in our newspaper today talking

about the increasing numbers of homeless
children in our area and the lack of
resources to help them. Whole families
living in shelters, campgrounds, motel
rooms. Todays article focused on a family
where the man lost his carpet laying job
and cannot find work, his wife had a leg
amputated last year.....their kids don't
have much of a chance in life.

[maggrwaggr]

8. so where is the "liberal" media using Savage's comments to lambaste the RW

What pisses me off: Somebody on this little forum can make a comment that gets repeated by all the major right-wing propagandists, but some piece of crap like Savage can say that the Iranian earthquake was caused by God, and he was doing us a favor by killing 60,000 Iranians and it doesn't get reported anywhere?

These people are the most hateful despicable pieces of trash yet why is nobody pointing this out but us?