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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:58 AM
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1,733 hydrocodone pills, 90 OxyContin pills, 50 Xanax tablets, 40 Kadian
I'd be less than truthful to say that I didn't do my fair share of drugs as a young man but I gotta say that Mr. Limbaugh puts me to shame.

Here's the complete list so far.. Keep in mind, it's within 6 months...

According to a Nov. 15 warrant to search the offices of Limbaugh's four doctors, he was prescribed 1,733 hydrocodone pills, 90 OxyContin pills, 50 anti-anxiety Xanax tablets and 40 pills of a time-release morphine called Kadian from March to September.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 08:04 AM
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1. and that doesn't include what his maid sold him?
eom

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grayrace Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 08:13 AM
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2. dude thats hardcore junkie shite
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 08:14 AM
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3. How the hell did he remain upright?
That's almost 40 hydrocodones per day--to say nothing of the other pills.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 08:16 AM
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4. He couldn't have ingested all those pills...
It's definitely intent to sell!
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:32 AM
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13. Could he have been injecting them?
When one switches to IV use do they use more than if they use orally?
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 08:51 AM
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5. Damn, we knew he was full of sh..t....... With all that codeine, he
definitely had to be! (very constipating drug, for those who don't know).
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:26 AM
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12. Not to say there isn't a problem here
but how do you arrive at that number? 1733 pills...March to September is 7 months at the outside and 5 on the short side. So, somewhere between 210 and 150 days. Those two counts lead to just over 8 pills a day to over 11 pills a day. Hardly the number you come up with.

Bash Rush on his lack of merits, but do the math first...

TheProdigal
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 12:23 PM
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15. This quantity is only what is alleged from Rx's...
This does not include what his housekeeper purchased for him. I can't recall the amt off the top of my head, but it was in 20,000 range over several years.

It is not so much the Rx's that bother me, it is the purchasing of the drugs illegally that I find particularly abominable. The old argument of 'prescription drugs' is invalid as well, the drugs bought illegally, were not prescribed.

When Limbaugh went into rehab, I actually felt sympathy for the man and his addiction. Since his return to the air though, I don't care what happens to him now.

The idea that this is a, "leftwing witchhunt", is disgusting. If he were half the man he thinks he is, he would co-operate with the authorities, and get off the "gestapo tactics of the police" excuse.

Always the coward, Limbaugh will evade and parry as long as he can.
Why not just go to FL, and take an active hand in the investigation, if he is as innocent as he seems to think he is?

O8)

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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 02:04 PM
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20. But that's the whole point! No normal person could injest that many!
That is why the number - taken from pigboy's own records - is so astounding!

He's a junkie!

He bought a ton more then he could possibly use!

Duhhhh.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 02:01 PM
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34. the amounts vary...
and while he was certainly a junkie (by his own admission) eight to eleven hydrocodone a day is not unheard of. When I shattered my left leg in a car accident, I was prescribed 2 pills every four hours...that's twelve a day and trust me, I needed them...still want them from time to time :-)

I think what Rush did is the ultimate in hypocrisy and hell yes, he should be slammed on it at every turn. But pulling numbers out of your butt is not the way to do it.

TheProdigal
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 09:01 AM
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6. My son got hooked for a while
on Oxys, after his back problems and his encounters with Vicodin from his Doctor..
He was spending 300 dollars a day..BAD STUFF
he only did it for about 6 months, but he was in terrible shape and could have died last year..til I grabbed him and shook him and said YOU ARE A DRUG ADDICT...and told him its the family or drugs..cant have both..
He went thru rehab and they said he wasnt addicted as badly as he thought, but he was terrified when he found out it completely destroys your ability to urinate, your nerve endings to your bladder and bowels lose strength, etc..
So, now hes clean and moved away from this horrid little town where Oxys are everywhere sold by the poor and sick to make money..
Rush has GOT to be a toxic brew walking..no wonder hes insane.
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Cannikin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 09:35 AM
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7. Well, after a few years it prabably took enough to put an
elephant (such as Rush) to sleep.

I wonder what he does now to maintain sobriety? I cant see him attneding NARCONON meatings.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 09:43 AM
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8. I know a migraine sufferer who got hooked on opiates
She went through about the same amount of drugs you've listed here. When you take them all the time you build up a tolerance, so doses that would make a normal person unconscious serve only to alleviate withdrawal symptoms.

It can happen to just about anyone. BTW my friend is clean and got through her problem without getting into any legal trouble, losing her job, etc. She was very lucky to have a husband who cared about her and the willpower to go through with rehab once she admitted to herself she had a problem.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 09:52 AM
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9. Doctors hand this stuff out like candy
Xanax is a horrible little drug..I took it during the last year for anxiety..horrible..I got off of it myself because it was so addictive..
When I went to the local Doc he was more then happy to ask me what I needed and hand me this n that..I know now that if I ever need anything for anxiety again, Ill go to a larger city and do research as to alternatives to these drugs.
Rush is similar to many people out there...a nation filled with people on prescrips for anxiety and depression...but Rush did it illegally, and he is white, male, and wealthy.
Thats why he wont get in trouble.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 09:59 AM
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10. My friend is white but female and poor and shopped doctors too
And bought extra pills on the black market. She did nothing different than what Limbaugh did, and she never faced any action by law enforcement. At least here in California people who become addicted by starting with prescription pills are rarely prosecuted if they seek treatment first. I think that's a properly compassionate manner to treat people who got into drug use to combat legitimate suffering rather than as a recreational thing.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 12:27 PM
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16. Eh, how do you shop doctors when you are poor?
Moreover, how do you buy the amount of pills it would take to satisfy an addict when you are poor? No reasonable doc would hand out that amount of pills, and no insurance would cover pill acquisitions by "alternate" methods.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 03:19 PM
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39. She's double-covered on employee health insurance
Hers and her husbands. Apparently she leveraged that somehow. I haven't pressed her for details.

...no insurance would cover pill acquisitions by "alternate" methods.

Painkillers are not expensive.
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 12:44 PM
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17. and Rush always has held with the notion
that people that do what he did should rot and die in prison

that was HIS position

He COULD do the right thing and use this incident as a platform to end the failed, counterproductive drug war.

But he wont.

He'll slide because he's rich and his listeners are too stupid to recognize his hypocrisy.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:15 AM
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11. I would like Rush to follow is own advice
If you do the Crime you need to do the Time

put him in a cell with Michal Jackson
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:57 PM
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21. Talk about violating the VIII Amendment!....
It would be cruel and unusual punishment....for BOTH of them.

:crazy:
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 11:39 AM
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14. 1,773 hydrocodone pills in 6 months = 9.6 pills a day!
That's quite a dosage. Prescription must have been one of those that read "or as needed for pain."

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 01:11 PM
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19. No SINGLE doctor would give him that much, BUT...
if he went to four doctors and lied about what the other three were giving him...
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 08:01 PM
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23. That still does not take into account...
all of the illegally obtained pills.

Regardless........he's still a stinking pile of dog crap, covered with flies, waiting for an unfortunate sould to step on him.

O8)
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 08:11 PM
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24. The most I've been on is eight a day...
...and that was to kill the pain from a shredded tibia - only days after major orthopedic surgery. And on that dosage, I was FLOATING! Rushbo must've been one synapse shut-down away from a coma...
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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 09:48 PM
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26. Depending on
Edited on Sun Jan-04-04 09:49 PM by PaDUer
how many mg/tab he was taking, even on the Oxycontin, it's available in 10, 20, 40, and 80mg tablets. Oxycontin's given to CA patients and chronic illnesses due to it being a time-released medication.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:15 PM
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27. that much vicodin can have really bad side-effects-
like losing your hearing, for instance.

but it's the acetomenophen(tylenol) that does the damage, not the opiates.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 01:07 PM
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18. Let's keep this kicked...maybe OxyBoy will explain everything when he
pays us a visit.


Rush Limbaugh: Talent on loan from Oxycontin...
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:59 PM
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22. 1700 hydracodone pills?
Geesh I had a worse accident than him in 99 and I only took one bottle over 5 yrs. Geesh.
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BroadswordNLance Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 08:17 PM
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25. What a junkie...
Why is he still walking the streets?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 12:30 AM
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28. About how much would this cost, as legal prescriptions?
Anyone know? Just curious. Obviously, I know he could afford it, whatever the cost, legal, illegal, whatever.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 02:07 PM
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35. OxyContin is pretty expensive, but vicodin isn't as bad...
I used to take OxyContin, and when I lost my insurance, the monthly prescription went from a $10 co-pay to $120 out of my pocket/month- so my dr. switched me to methadone, which costs about $24/month. I have a friend with MS, and he takes over $600 worth of OxyContin/month.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 03:14 PM
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37. Thanks for the info
n/t
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shimmergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:01 PM
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29. Sorry to differ, I don't doubt that Rush had a habit that was way out of
control. But...I'm presently taking hydrocodone (1 non-refillable bottle of the liquid only) for severe leg and lower back pain, and it's not having ANY psychotropic effects.

Sometimes it eases the pain somewhat, sometimes it doesn't. That's all. I don't expect the Dr. will renew the prescription for me.
Going in for an appt. this afternoon. . .hopefully it'll yield a diagnosis so I can move forward.

Glad to read the post about the side effects though.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:36 PM
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31. Prescribed (and used) properly, it's tough to get addicted to
Edited on Mon Jan-05-04 01:49 PM by Enraged_Ape
Oxycontin has other pain-killing stuff in it besides heavy-duty narcotics. So does Vicodin (hydrocodone). They are meant for (and work well for) somatic pain, and that's it. Some people--Rush, for instance--take it too far, and they get addicted.

Once you ARE addicted to these things, look out. This stuff is just as hard to kick as standard weapons-grade heroin or morphine. Five weeks of "rehab" on a horse ranch won't begin to cut it.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:12 PM
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30. If I had quantities even half as much I would be imprisoned for distributing
Distribution is a very serious charge and with such huge quantities it is hard to say it wasn't for distribution. I know if it were me they had and not Limbaugh I would be looking at several decades behind bars. Republicans though don't "do jail time". It is considered beneath them
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:39 PM
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32. Does this include the illegal purchases?
Rush has built up some serious tolerance. Unless he was buying bulk and either selling some to his friends or stocking up for the apocalypse.
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truthspeaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 01:56 PM
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33. and I thought two oz. of pot/month was a lot
Damn, no wonder Rush is crazy!
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 02:15 PM
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36. Ask for Vicoprofen instead of Vicodin from your Doctor...
just for future reference- if you ever need pain medication, and your dr suggests vicodin, ask him/her to prescribe Vicoprofen instead- Vicodin is a mix of hydrocodone and tylenol(acetomenophen), whereas Vicoprofen uses Ibuprofen(Advil) instead of tylenol.
If you're at all like me, tylenol isn't very effective, but advil works...if he was taking lots of vicodin, Rush's hearing loss is probably due to prolonged overdoses of tylenol.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-04 03:18 PM
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38. Weird Stuff!!. As soon as I opened this thread, a prescription drug
pop-up ad hit me!!!

Coincidence or.....?

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