Now comes the truly outrageous...

[jmatthan]

Hunt for UK terror cell

Hijack gang 'have British passports'

Peter Beaumont and Antony Barnett
Sunday January 4, 2004
The Observer


http://observer.guardian.co.uk/waronterrorism/story/0,1373,1115906,00.html


"In one call, an unidentified jihadist tells a colleague: 'We need foreigners. We have Albanians, Swiss and English... all that is important is that they are of a high cultural level ... businessmen, professors, engineers, doctors and teachers.' "

Do the intelligence crowd really believe that businessmen, professors, engineers, doctors and teachers are going to become suicide bombers just at the drop of a hat.

Terrorists all have a personal story to relate to which calls them to take what actions they do. This includes the massacre of loved one, the rape of their womenfolk, the inhumanity shown to the closest, etc. Just as President Mubarak said before the invasion - Bush and Blair now have created multiples of Osma bin Ladens. THESE TEERRORISTS DO NOT HAVE TO BE RECRUITED - THEY ARE THERE FOR THE ASKING BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS OF BUSH AND BLAIR!! THEY ARE THE CREATORS OF THE TERRORISTS.

You do not recruit terrorists in the way conceived by the purported telephone call.

This article only shows how absolutely stupid the intelligence community in paranoiac nations are just to keep their political masters happy - the sycophantic Gestapo in Hitler's Germany, the KGB in the former Soviet Union, the Stasi ín East Germany, the MI5 and MI6 in present day UK and the FBI, CIA and Department of Homeland Security in the USA!!

Faulty and deliberately manipulated intelligence led to the invasion and occupation of Iraq. It has led to death and destruction of innocent Afghanis. Now it is going to cause havoc to the innocent people around the world to serve the political ends of this absolutely evil cabal of the Blair - Bush axis.

Jacob Matthan
http://www.findians.com/educated.html
Oulu, Finland

[izzie]

1. A bogy man under every bed.

Do you re-call how as a kid you got up and shut the closet door at night so that what ever was in their would not get you? By the way that is how Webster's spells bogy even if check spell tells me it is wrong.

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[jmatthan]

4. I did not at any point say that I excused

the killing of innocents in any part of my post.

I said that terrorists had been created by Bush and Blair.

Please do not put words in my post which are not there.

Further, what are the US Army and the British forces doing in Iraq, killing innocent men, women and children under the express orders of Bush and Blair.

Are they or are they not terrorists?

Are you intending to publicly defend these terrorists in this forum?

Just because they are Americans and British acting under a Christian Crusade Command "under orders", it does not mean they cannot be classified as teerrorists.

They are terrorists!!! And I do not excuse their killing activity either.

Why should I have any excuse for PA terrorists?

Do you have any excuse for Timothy McVeigh?

You bring together apples and oranges and count them as bannanas!!

Jacob Matthan
http:/7www.findians.com/educated.html
Oulu, Finland

[Don Claybrook]

6. Who is it that creates terrorists?

Surely you've asked yourself that question that's been on everyone's lips for a couple of years: why do they hate us?

What did you come up with?

[Jackpine Radical]

10. They hate us for our freedoms.

And don't forget it, or you can be sent away for a long time.

[KG]

3. just like the 'terrorist walking around with almanacs' jive,

i guess they expect a frightened populace to just believe any line of BS they make up.

[Don Claybrook]

5. Good point. Also...

the line about recruiting those of "high cultural level" rings false. Most people, when talking to friends or acquaintances, wouldn't identify others as being of a "high cultural level". Rather, they'd just refer to them as lawyers, doctors, engineers, and so on. It's not in human nature to use conversational devices to elevate those different from yourself to a higher plane (we need to find people better than us). Moreover, it's not likely that terrorist planners would consider these professions their betters.

It sounds like a conversation manufactured (by someone or other) for Western consumption.

[jonoboy]

7. I genuinley believe that Bush/Blair & Co are making it less safe for us

just imagine if the recourses they had put into blasting the guts out of Afghanistan & Iraq had been plowed into chasing terrorists.
They have hijacked 9/11 and the world's sympathy to embark on another course that has little to do with making us safe.

And they are inflaming terrorists..Bush is Osama's 'best friend'..

[Unknown Known]

8. Take a look at this thread - MI6 and Operation Mass Appeal

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=296896

[amber dog democrat]

9. Its a red herring

to justify keeping up a level of fear - that justifies the police state mentality of the US at home and abroad.

I would not believe a word of it.