Bush loves Jiang
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Sun Jan-04-04 01:24 PM
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Does O'Connor even want to be replaced by a Bush nominee? |
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As Republicans go, she's fairly liberal (not saying much...lol), so I'm not sure how appealing Scalia III (Thomas = Scalia II) is to her.
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Sun Jan-04-04 01:34 PM
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1. I remember reading or hearing somewhere that is the case. |
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That two judges are wanting to retire but aren't exactly cool with having a bush appointee in there, both were on the right of the court (renquist and oconnor perhaps).
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Sun Jan-04-04 01:37 PM
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That makes sense for O'Connor, but what does Rehnquist have against Whistle Ass? I thought he loved him. He kisses his ass often enough.
Hang on, Sandra...we're getting you a Democratic president!
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Sun Jan-04-04 01:48 PM
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4. Maybe their waiting for the next election in case they have |
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to select Bush again if he looses. Someone else might have a conscience.
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blondeatlast
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Sun Jan-04-04 02:59 PM
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8. Not the case with O'Connor--she is definitely worried about |
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Sun Jan-04-04 06:56 PM
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19. Why? She helped put in in. n/t |
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Sun Jan-04-04 01:47 PM
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3. They could be waiting to retire until Spring... |
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and then tie up the process well into the fall, giving * the excuse that "you don't want to change presidents during times like these: war, the replacement of my enablers, etc..." I wouldn't put it past them...
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H2O Man
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Sun Jan-04-04 01:55 PM
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5. Please read "The Betrayal of America".... |
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... by Vince Bugliosi. It documents how on election night in 2000, she was at a party, and was upset that Gore won ..... because she wanted to retire, but wanted a republican president. Of the five common criminals on the court, she may have the only speck of conscience ... and thus has put off her retirement. But NEVER FORGET that she was part of the worst legal betrayal of the US Constitution in our history.
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Sun Jan-04-04 03:24 PM
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12. I have that book, I'll look for the quote |
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Sun Jan-04-04 06:17 PM
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16. If you have the book handy, turn to |
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pages 76, and more importantly 87-88: Bugliosi quotes from reports in the Wall Street Journal and Newsweek, which had "sources" from the social events that O'Connor attended. On the night of the election, when CBS anchor Dan Rather called Florida for Gore, O'Connor had a hissy fit and left the room...."leaving it for her husband to explain her somewhat uncharacteristic outburst. John O'Connor said his wife was upset because they wanted to retire to Arizona, and a Gore win meant they'd have to wait another four years." (Newsweek; 12-25-00 edition) O'Connor is not on the same side as us, folks: she was one of the five people who put bush in office.
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Sun Jan-04-04 08:00 PM
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but I wouldn't be surprised if she is regretting it now. Recent SC rulings have opposed a lot of Bush's positions, and O'Connor has been in the majority.
I know she was appointed by a Republican and what happened on election night. However, if she was planning to retire under a GOP President, why didn't she retire last year? Why wait four more years?
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Sun Jan-04-04 02:58 PM
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7. She has hinted at this in Arizona media. |
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She's very worried about a GWaBby nominee.
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Sun Jan-04-04 02:08 PM
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6. It's because of the letter I sent her after the 2000 SC decision. |
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I'm originally from Arizona and remember the thrill of seeing the first woman on the SC come from that state. After the 2000 SC decision, I sent her an incredibly scathing letter and my voter registration card cut into pieces. I remember telling her that she should NOT resign but rather live with the consequences of her actions. I'm surprised she's still there.
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Sun Jan-04-04 03:42 PM
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who knows maybe it helped her see the error of her ways? It is odd that she hasn't retired yet?
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Sun Jan-04-04 03:06 PM
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9. To hell with what O'Connor wants! |
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If there were any Justice, she'd have to sit on that Court for Eternity and get to see the results of her sellout of the Constitution in December of 2000.
:grr: dbt
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Sun Jan-04-04 06:55 PM
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18. NO S---!!! She should be impeached!!! |
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If she did deliberately change her opinion on the FLA vote case, just so her replacement could be appointed by bush, that is CRIMINAL! If that is not impeachable, what could be???
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Bush loves Jiang
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Sun Jan-04-04 03:07 PM
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10. I find it hard to hate O'Connor or Kennedy... |
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Edited on Sun Jan-04-04 03:08 PM by Bush loves Jiang
While 2000 was disgusting, they look heroic compared to the Theocratic Three.
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Sun Jan-04-04 03:22 PM
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She was quoted just prior to the time of the stolen 2000 election as saying something like she didn't want to retire with a Democratic president.
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Sun Jan-04-04 05:10 PM
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14. I heard she was at some social gathering the night of the election |
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and expressed dismay when it was announce that Gore had apparently carried Florida. She has been a Bush supporter right along. No doubt about it.
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Sun Jan-04-04 05:17 PM
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15. U bet, shows how far the country has moved right by call oconnor liberal |
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she's a traditional conservative who has quietly shown that some conservative values are also liberal values.
i hear she is sorry to have voted to stop the vote,
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H2O Man
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Sun Jan-04-04 06:24 PM
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Because there doesn't seem to be ANY public record of her saying that she was sorry. If there is, please let us know. Did she admit that she violated her oath to uphold the US Constitution? Or that she really really disagrees with bush on some policy? I doubt that. Are you her friend, or do you move in common social circles? Because I really question if there is ANY credible source for what you are saying? Earlier, Woodstock asked about my using Vince Bugliosi's book as a resource; MOMENTS after reading his/her question, I quoted the pages, as well as the Wall Street Journal and Newsweek. Can you back up your claim?
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Sun Jan-04-04 07:12 PM
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20. I think George Stephanapoulis asked her about her comments |
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noted In the book mentioned up-thread. She denies making the comments. I have read rumors in passing that she was "shaken" by the letters she received after the election but to the best of my knowledge she has never made a comment about feeling guilty about the decision. I have also read rumors that she has had regrets about Bush v Gore. I don't know if she really does or if she has let the rumor float to improve her image in some way. Beats me. My best guess is that she didn't feel bad about the decision until she received an avalanche of negative mail.
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Sun Jan-04-04 07:56 PM
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21. Newsweek had 5 witnesses to the events.... |
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...that occured at the election night social gathering. I suspect that none of these were democrats or YIPPIES! Sandra was asked by several news media directly around that time, and hid behind a "no comment." I've worked for years in forensic psychiatric-social work. I met many people in jail who were troubled by their past crimes. Most, like O'Connor, lied as the time passed, and they believed there was a great enough distance between the crime and their lie. My own impression is that you are correct in that the public response probably hurt the poor girl's feelings. But not enough to result in her making ammends for her crime. Thus, the only viable alternative is that SANDRA WAS SAD THAT SHE GOT CAUGHT! Which means that she is not significantly different than any two-bit crook in any county jail in this country. Just a crook with a black robe.
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