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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:21 PM
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Mary Landrieu for VP?
She's a little on the conservative side, but she's easy on the eyes and a good public speaker, don't underestimate these intangible qualities in politics.

I think she could put Louisana into play, possibly even Arkansas. One problem is I don't know of any foreign policy credentials she has. She may not plug a hole in a Dean's resume if he wins the nomination. Great fit for Clark, I think though, to balance out the military man.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:26 PM
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1. Excellent Choice
Edited on Sun Jan-04-04 05:43 PM by BOSSHOG
She has a passion for bush after his efforts against her during her 2002 runoff election against a neanderthal republican moron. She made every effort to "change the tone" after bush got elected but he kicked her when he thought she was down. Fiesty little handful, definitely photogenic and a very good speaker. Tends to the center to ensure her own reelection.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:26 PM
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2. 2002 election, you mean (n/t)
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:43 PM
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21. Thank you for the correction
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:27 PM
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3. Graham would be better
Plus, if we get the Gore states and Lousiniana we would be tied and thus the House would vote for President!
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:29 PM
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6. The House choosing the president was already a thread...
Although I haven't been able to find it with the search function. Anyways, they have to choose between Bush and the Dem nominee if it comes to that. They can't just decide all of a sudden that they want Tom DeLay to be president.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:27 PM
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4. Louisiana is already into play as far as I'm concerned...
A dem governor and 2 dem senators shows a lot about the direction that the state is moving in.
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Zeke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:28 PM
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5. NOPE.
She gotta stay inthe senate because Dems must control it for nominating, or blocking, judges.

For now, I almost think winning the senate---the congress---is more important than winning the WH.
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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:30 PM
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8. the governor of louisana is a democrat
they would apoint a democratic replacement for her.
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Zeke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:33 PM
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11. Hmmmm...
That would work, but is VP where she'd be most effective; I don't think so.

Let her take root in the senate and become the pretty face for capitol hill, I say, in contrast to Libby Dole, even Feinsteinn.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:35 PM
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14. First woman VP sounds pretty effective to me...
Plus we still have Clinton and Boxer in the senate.
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Zeke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:38 PM
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17. Yes.
But Boxer's never guven a leading role---never.

It seems she's always playing second fiddle to Feinstein, and given how Di-Fi always votes Republican, it's harder and harder rounding up the needed votes to block.

So every seat is priceless right now.

I'm reading David Brock's BLINDED BY THE RIGHT, and I'm telling you, we need every seante seat we can muster---no gambling allowed!
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:45 PM
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23. Oh I agree, but I don't think it's gonna happen...
If I had everything go my way here's what would happen in 2004.

1) Bush would win re-election but once again without the popular vote. This time the margin for the popular vote is as overwhelmingly democratic as physically possible.

2) Congress would be overwhelmingly swept by democrats to the extent that overiding vetos would be very possible in some circumstances.

3) Congressional leaders would start taring apart the president, show the public all of the lying he has done to the country.

4) Bush's gets to nominate a supreme court justice but is forced to choose a liberal or the senate will not confirm, GOP tires to fillibuster our majority would be large enough to invoke cloture.

5) Bush is impeached and convicted.

6) Dick Chenney looses re-election miserably in 2008. Democrats are the dominant party for years to come.

But since I can't have things go my way, I'll settle for Bush out of the white house in 2004.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:30 PM
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9. Her term isn't up so she'll be in the Senate if we loose the WH...
And getting a dem president is definately more important in the process of electing judicial nominees than getting a dem controlled senate.
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Zeke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:35 PM
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15. You Gotta Point...
Still, if the Dems won the House and Senate, they'd probably win the WH, too, given a probable coat-tail effect.

Who's kidding whom?

I want the WH, too! :)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:46 PM
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24. Coat-tail effect works the other way around...
Congressmen and Senators don't get the President elected, he gets the Congressmen and Senators elected.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:30 PM
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7. What does she bring that Edwards does not?
other than her gender?

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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:31 PM
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10. Edwards couldn't even win re-election in NC
He was doing badly in the polls. I don't think Edwards brings anything to the ticket.

Graham is great, but he's old and boring, unfortunately. Very tired looking on the trial. Also, Florida may not be winnable for anyone. Graham is a risk. You are putting all your eggs in one basket.
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:34 PM
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13. Graham can talk "Southern" and bring foreign policy experience
I think he can best replace Clark on the Dean ticket. And he is the *only* chance of winning Florida we have. Edwards and Landrieu would be decent though.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:33 PM
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12. Not much, really...
But if the two are tied, you're better off going with the woman.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:35 PM
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16. No freaking way
She's not pro-choice.
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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:41 PM
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19. What are you talking about?
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:42 PM
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20. Not pro choice?
Graham or Edwards then for sure. Those 9 Louisiana votes won't get us the 10 we need (from the Gore states) to win anyway.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:48 PM
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25. Damn redistricting...
LA had 8 House seats and 10 electoral votes prior to 2000.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 06:00 PM
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27. wrong
she was even endorsed by Emily's List
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:41 PM
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18. This not the year for the woman --
We are at War--I hate to say it but America is not going to put a woman into Presidency or Vice Prsidency. Whe we would kike to think we have copme a long way baby--not that far.

Bersides she is absolutely too conservative.
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adamrsilva Donating Member (636 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:43 PM
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22. AZ is a better target for Dems gaining ground in the South
EOM
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 05:51 PM
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26. Too conservative? Try as liberal as possible to actually win in LA...
I disagree with her for voting for the medicare and partial birth abortion bills but how is she supposed to come back home and say "I voted against perscription drugs for seniors and I voted against saving the lives of unborn babies" in a state that is split pretty evenly but leans conservative.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 06:01 PM
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28. i'd rather Breaux be the VP
Edited on Sun Jan-04-04 06:05 PM by amazona
He is not popular on this site but he is popular in Louisiana and if he is going to quit the Senate and give up that seat anyway, then he may be a decent choice. I'm sure Landrieu would make a fine VP but I hate to think of trying to replace two Senators at once. It will be tough enough replacing Breaux. The thought of a stuffed suit like David Vitter ascending to the Senate just makes me tired. And Lord knows what other wingnuts will come crawling out of the walls.

I have a pet theory that the GOP could not beat Clark/Breaux in a fair contest.

Edited because of my sorry inability to spell...
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:58 PM
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30. Breaux not fit to be dogcatcher.
I'm not into animal cruelty.

ML way too conservative, but has a nice "image" and isn't everything these days "image?"

Takes a big swig of Bailey's.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:28 PM
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31. that's a bit harsh don't you think?
Breaux has tried to bring a lot of money to this state. I don't agree with all he does or says but I think his heart is in the right place...more than you can say for some. In fact I was one who wrote and asked him to please re-consider his decision to quit the Senate...but apparently he has made up his mind. :-( I hope we will get a more progressive replacement but frankly it's gonna be tough.

When you look at the right wing whackos hoping to replace Breaux and Landrieu...It gets scary in my humble opinion.

Pass that bottle of Baileys!

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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 07:47 PM
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29. For the sake of argument --
-- let's say Mary Landrieu is the VP nominee of our party.

Her campaign would draw huge, enthusiastic crowds, including throughout the South. She is strong and likeable. She has beauty and brains both. She makes it closer in some of the "possible" Southern states. Maybe we win Louisiana and Arkansas and North Carolina.

Younger voters are going to like Mary Landrieu. They'll volunteer. I think Landrieu has that quality where young people would trust her. She makes people want to know her and talk with her.

After the attempt by Rove to gang up on her, I think Mary Landrieu would put in a sizzling performance on the campaign trail for the ticket, and for our other Democratic candidates in other races.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:33 PM
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32. she can take the heat
She has been attacked most viciously by the right wing, and she has stood up to their crap without fear. Jenkins out and out tried to steal her Senate seat with lies and invented testimony. At least Terrell (the election commissioner who couldn't steal her own election because the machines were sent back because they couldn't work in high humidity) slunk away without trying to accuse Landrieu of fraud for the crime of getting more votes.

We will need courage in this upcoming election cycle and she has it.

That said, I would rather keep her in the Senate because it was tough enough to get her in that seat.
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-04 10:39 PM
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33. Not a woman this time around on the ticket-
war & security are the buzzwords this election year, and running a woman in the veep slot, a "heartbeat away" from the BIG CHAIR would be total folly.
If the Lil'Dictator and his street crew end up running things for another 4 years, the country will definitely be ready for a feminine touch by 2008.(but I could never endorse a run by Hillary in either slot- she's unwinnable, and probably always will be.)
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