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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:02 PM
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Poll question: Poll: What do you make of the new Saddam Picture...
Here's the picture...



Here's the Official Story:

Capture details

New details emerged Monday about Saddam's capture Saturday evening.

Soldiers from the 4th Infantry Division who participated in the raid said they were preparing to toss a grenade or fire into a hole they had uncovered -- standard procedure for their own safety -- when they saw a pair of upraised hands. (Gallery: Saddam's capture)

The hands belonged to a face -- the haggard, weary face of Saddam.

"I am Saddam Hussein," the bearded ex-leader told the soldiers. "I am president of Iraq. I want to negotiate."

The soldiers replied: "President Bush sends his regards."

More...

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/12/15/sprj.irq.main/


Here's the Kurd's Story:

Saddam held by Kurds, drugged and left for US troops: report

Saddam Hussein was captured by US troops only after he had been taken prisoner by Kurdish forces, drugged and abandoned ready for American soldiers to recover him, a British tabloid newspaper has reported.

Saddam came into the hands of the Kurdish Patriotic Front after being betrayed to the group by a member of the al-Jabour tribe, whose daughter had been raped by Saddam's son Uday, leading to a blood feud, reported the Sunday Express, which quoted an unnamed senior British military intelligence officer.


More...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1014319.htm

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the populist Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:16 PM
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1. "smirk sends his regards"
This has been proven to be a propaganda fabrication. No soldier said that.

I have no opinion on this picture, but I think the Kurds drugged him anyway. Even if he wasn't drugged by the Kurds, you can bet your ass that the soldiers put some sort of intoxicating gas into the hole like how the Russian military handled the hostage crisis in Moscow last year (or was it the year before?).

And I oppose these pictures of Saddam Hussein. He is a POW. If America doesn't respect the Geneva Convention, why should any other country?
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economic justice Donating Member (776 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:18 PM
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2. Yup! Poor Saddam <eom>
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:32 PM
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8. No, screw Saddam. Poor Geneva Convention.
And poor US troops in the future.

Hardly the work of professionals. It lowers the bar of responsibility. Next thing you know our troops will engage in some sick act of vigilante "justice" and we'll all laugh and slap them on the backs.

Go team...
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annagull Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:23 PM
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3. Looks like another Geneva Convention violation
Remember, you are not supposed to humiliate and pose for pictures with prisoners of war. Oh, wait, that's for all those other countries.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:25 PM
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4. When I first heard of the capture, my suspicions were aroused..
because I remembered the the new Iraqi Governing Council has just passed a law to try "war criminals" a few days before.

When I heard the Official Story, my "bullshit" meter went to high.

When I heard the Kurd's story later, I thought "that sounds closer to the truth".

When I heard that Patriot II was signed by Bush the day of the capture, well....

And now with this picture, is there any doubt?
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:26 PM
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5. Why is the soldier's face blurred?
I want to know who he is, and I'd like to see him face the media and answer questions about this important issue. He is a hero, after all.

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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 09:43 PM
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6. I suspect the Kurds had been holding him for quite a while.
They're not stupid - they want an independent Kurdistan, and they
needed something to bargain with, so it makes perfect sense.

If the Bush administration hoped to humiliate Saddam by releasing
those photos, I think it's backfired. I doubt if anyone feels
sorry for Saddam, but he looked so pathetic, it's a bit embarrassing
to think "is that what we're all supposed to be so afraid of?" If
he'd been taken in hand to hand fighting or something, there might
have been dancing in the streets, but instead I think people would
just like to forget about him. Perhaps that's also because most
people now realise that whatever Saddam had done to his own people
in the past, he was actually no threat to the rest of the world for
the last ten years - it was all a Big Lie.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:12 PM
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7. Kick
:kick:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:42 PM
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9. I don't know what I think so I couldn't reply to your poll. I thought Pix
was grotesque, though. I'm sick of this Invasion and the deaths and the maimed for Bush's War and Wars. I think it's all lies. I don't believe anything I hear from this Admin or the Whore Press about Saddam or his Capture. I know I'm in the minority here, but I feel he could have been contained and we are relplacing the "Evil" of Saddam with "Evil" of our own with MY TAX DOLLARS! and our troops blood.

So, I don't want to ever see another "Saddam" picture....sorry...but that's the way I feel.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 10:49 PM
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10. His mouth looks bloody.
Is the soldier holding him the one who punched him for spitting, or was that story another piece of propaganda.......:crazy:
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-04 11:21 PM
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11. Are we gonna see a new picture every 2 weeks until Nov '04?
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