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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:23 AM
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tinfoil: immigrants to work for Pentagon
Mostly throwing this idea out to make sense of this immigration proposal:

Could it not potentially solve the recruiting/reenlistment problem if these workers find a job in the military?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:37 AM
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1. they keep saying it's for the jobs Americans aren't willing to do...
for whatever reason.. they avoid the "why aren't they" part of it.

-low wages in agriculture

-getting shot at in Iraq


both are jobs that Americans are less-than-willing to do


and didn't too-stupid-to-eat-a-pretzel just recently praise an immigrant soldier?
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:54 AM
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2. Yup, went on about the military
He gave quite a few words about non-citizens in the military:

"We've all seen those values in action, through the service and sacrifice of more than 35,000 foreign-born men and women currently on active duty in the United States military. One of them is Master Gunnery Sergeant Guadalupe Denogean, an immigrant from Mexico who has served in the Marine Corps for 25 years and counting. Last year, I was honored and proud to witness Sergeant Denogean take the oath of citizenship in a hospital where he was recovering from wounds he received in Iraq. I'm honored to be his Commander-in-Chief, I'm proud to call him a fellow American."
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040107-3.html
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cryofan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:04 AM
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4. Amen....just keep saying it. Sooner or later, DUers will wake up
It's called the Race to the Bottom, and illegal and legal immigration is a huge component of the Race to the Bottom.
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 07:44 AM
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3. When there was talk of a war back in 01, some on this board
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 07:45 AM by ignatius
thought that hispanics should be offered a deal..go to war and become American citizens.

What a deal, huh? If you aren't maimed or killed you can become a citizen. It was an appalling idea, but you could be right about this. Not enough cannon fodder for all the wars the Neocons facists have planned and what American would care or most likely even know if a different bunch of brown people kill other brown people.

This administration is vile enough to list this as one of the reasons, unspoken of course, to ofer this amnesty program.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:18 AM
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5. it's already happened...
H1b's are already on site at the Pentagon. I know. I managed some there.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:30 AM
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6. Yep!!!
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 08:44 AM
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7. well, isn't the army full of non-Americans?
this is hardly new.
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 09:28 AM
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8. Are you saying the army is full of illegal immigrants? That is
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 09:45 AM by ignatius
highly doubtful.
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