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waylon Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:10 PM
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Challenge from a repub
My marketing guy wants to know if anyone here can say anything good about bush. Specifically:

Has bush done anything right in his administration?



(that was leo typing, now my keyboard is sticky)

No flames, we are just bored today. We bet lunch on this so dont let me down!
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:13 PM
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1. The No-Call List
That's it. It's all he has done right.
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Cat Atomic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:24 PM
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21. That's it.
That's all I can think of, too. On every other issue he's taken precisely the worst position possible.
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phillybri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:56 PM
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43. Agreed....
That's all...He fucked up the AIDS initiative by not funding it. Shocker there! :eyes:
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:53 PM
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53. It just killed a whole indrustry... Thats all... Just so you aren't annoyed.
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camero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:49 PM
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64. Maybe if not for free trade
People wouldn't need to work as telemarketers. And my phone doesn't constantly ring off the hook thank you.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:43 PM
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60. in my case not
as we had a very effective state DNC list. When the national one was enacted the state one was incorporated into it. No problem until all the legal challenges came up. Not exactly Bush's fault, but seeing as he is a incompetent fool and a liar and stole the 2000 election, I'll hold it against him anyway.
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Purrfessor Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:09 PM
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72. He picked his dog up after he dropped it.......
n/t
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GURUving Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:17 PM
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73. Me and my strange mind
My first thought when this was announced was it was an easy, popular way of compiling a database with the information of millions of Americans just a keystroke away.
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reprehensor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:14 PM
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2. His wife.
I heard the CIC doesn't even NEED Viagra.

;)
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thebaghwan Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:14 PM
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3. Sorry, But I seriously cannot think of anything that he has done that I
agree with. Be it the Law, economics, Iraq, the Middle East, the environment, science. Sorry!
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Foehammer Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:15 PM
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4. His post 9/11 Speech was touching
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 02:17 PM by Foehammer
only the Speech ... he screwed up big time after that.
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waylon Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:20 PM
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11. ooh, that one hit home
thank ya!


A steak perhaps, or maybe....chili dogs!
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:42 PM
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35. Yeah, but he didn't write it so it doesn't count!
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:52 PM
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42. He ousted a nefarious dictator.
Unfortunately, at a cost of alienating some of our closest allies, turning world sympathy against us in the war on terror, crumbling military morale, $187 billion (so far), 15,000 American casualties, 500 American dead, and god-knows-how-many Iraqi dead and wounded.

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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:21 PM
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46. never mind that saddam was supported by the CIA and reagan
as well as daddy bush, rumsfeld, george schultz, james baker, etc.

From the Congressional Record:

THE CASE OF IRAQ AND THE EXPORT-IMPORT BANK
Henry B. Gonzalez, (TX-20)
(House of Representatives - February 24, 1992)
The most important event early in United States-Iraq relations was the Reagan administration's removal of Iraq from the list of nations supporting terrorism in 1982. By removing Iraq from this list, the administration granted Saddam Hussein instant access to United States agriculture assistance and opened the door for Iraqi participation in Eximbank programs as well as making sophisticated United States technology available to the Iraqi military.

Starting in 1983 Iraq exploited its newfound status by using CCC backed credit to purchase $365 million in United States supposed agriculture products. By 1990 the amount of United States Government guaranteed sales of supposedly agriculture products to Iraq had grown to over $1 billion annually.

This policy not only fed the people of Iraq, which is fine and well, but it fed the armies that Mr. Saddam Hussein had been raising and had enabled him to wage war and prepare for additional war, and it helped to keep him in power.

http://fas.org/spp/starwars/congress/1992/h920224g.htm
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:47 PM
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61. not to mention
telling lies about the reason he was doing it, re-directing resources from going after actual real life terrorists to do so, giving the Arab Nationalists and the religious fundamentalists more reasons to hate us and creating a new breeding ground for terrorists in Occupied Iraq.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:17 PM
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5. Thinking it over. hey, maybe this counts
Shrub's clarion call to Americans to rally against terrorism.

Has a world leader ever spoken more eloquently?

"People say, how can I help on this war against terror? How can I fight evil? You can do so by mentoring a child; by going into a shut-in's house and say I love you."
- George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 19, 2002

So that's my pick for Bush's "good thing," even if it is absolutely pathetic in every respect.

Oh, but wait -- maybe he should get credit for the Guiness Book of World Records thingie on "Most Vacationed pResident." Whadyathink?
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DebJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:03 PM
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69. Great idea, the Guiness Book thing!!
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Risdn Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:17 PM
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6. AIDS relief
His contribution to the third world countries to help fight AIDS was impressive.

Rather see tax dollars doing this than..well you know the rest
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:19 PM
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8. It WOULD have been if he actually came through with it
But once again, he was all talk. He paid it lip service only. The money ain't there...IOW, he was full of shit...
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mmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:19 PM
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9. It was never funded
now you see it, now you don't
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:25 PM
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57. It wasn't funded, was it?
It was announced to much applause then quietly snuffed out in Congress.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:49 PM
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63. a fictitious program
just like the rest of his Presidency. They did nothing to get that program funded. It was just another cynical manipulation that they can get away with thanks to the pro-Bush media.
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Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:17 PM
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7. Buy the guy lunch...
...because you're asking too much. Bush* is the poisoned well from which nothing good will flow...
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:19 PM
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10. I heard that he occasionally remembers ...
to wipe his own ass. If true, that would be about it.
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:20 PM
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12. wait, shouldnt he be the one to find the good points?
There must be one or two!

Maybe.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:20 PM
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13. He efficiently transforms oxygen into carbon dioxide.
:-)
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:23 PM
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17. Okay, now get over here and help me clean off my monitor!
Whatever soda didn't come out of my nose went all over the screen.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:23 PM
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18. HA! ...and chili beans to methane...
:D
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:42 PM
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36. Shucks, I thought it was the other way around. He's a Bush, so
I thought he'd be photosynthesizing.
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:22 PM
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14. Will Farells Bush impression on SNL.
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 02:23 PM by Homer12
AND..."Tht's my Bush," from teh creators of South Park on Comedy Centeral.

These are truly the only great things Bush has done for our nation.


How I miss those days.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:22 PM
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15. I agree in principle with parts of his proposed amnesty program
although it doesn't go nearly far enough.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:22 PM
Original message
posted twice somehow
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 02:23 PM by bowens43
sorry
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Buffler Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:22 PM
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16. He has done a few things I agree with
Signed the WWII memorial bill
Do Not Call List

There are some more. But none of them are major things that anyone would ever hing a vote on.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:23 PM
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19. While on a visit to TN he demonstrated to the residents of this state just
how badly they screwed up by not going blue with the native son, Al Gore!

Remember the "Fool me once....won't get fooled again" display of the Dimson*?

Well, I had loads of fun with that.
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lovedems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:24 PM
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20. He has given us some great cartoons!
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 02:24 PM by lovedems
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NicoleM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:24 PM
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22. If he has
he's done more than enough truly reprehensible stuff to more than overshadow any good he's done.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:24 PM
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23. Added four more national cemeteries
for veterans he is intent on getting killed for his own personal and political.

One day soon he won't be president.

He doesn't look like his mother.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:25 PM
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24. Well, here's a question or two:
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 02:37 PM by RandomKoolzip
What has Bush done to benefit you, Leo? Aren't you in fear of having your job outsourced? Were you effected positively by the big tax cut? Do you REALLY feel safer under Bush? Are you making an easier living under Bush? Is health care easier to access under Bush? Do you have to work two jobs to survive, like me? Does the world hate us now more than they did under Clinton? Do you think that Bush and Cheney blocking the 9/11 investigation ISN'T suspicious?

And finally, are Bush's Lies more costly and egregious than Clinton's (one single, non-deadly) Lie?
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waylon Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:27 PM
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26. he cant answer right now, hes ordering pizza :)
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Foehammer Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:30 PM
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Wheres my Slice? hehe ( nt )
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:36 PM
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32. Oh, and another one:
As a republican, how do you feel about Bush running up a gigantic deficit and STILL spending billions? And how does Leo feel about this new immigration policy- how will this make HIS life easier?
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waylon Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:41 PM
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34. he's a bit cranky now hehe, $45 on pizza, he can afford it
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 02:43 PM by waylon
responding to randomkoolzip

paraphrased

he says he's doing better now than ever. His firm went under during clinton's admin...(not his fault) He makes more now than when he ran his own firm. He didnt get any tax refund because he was unemployed, but he will. (we offer very good health insurance so I cant touch this one) He works one job which he attributes to his education and discipline. No, only the left hates us more under bush than clinton. No, they are not blocking the investigation they are just protecting critical intel information. Yes, clinton lied under oath. bush didnt lie to anyone, he acted on the best intelligence from within the us and other foreign intel services. he never has lied... (he means himself, Leo)



he wants me to throw another question out there, this one isnt so frivolous.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:47 PM
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39. Can he see that not everyone lives in his tax bracket?
What about them who make less than 50,000 a year? Not everybody is an entrepeneur, Leo. What does he say? "Screw them!"

If he thinks that only the left hates the USA more since Bush stole the office, then he obviously hasn't been to any foreign countries for a few years. Ask anyone from Europe, Asia, South America, etc. Nobody likes or respects us, they just merely FEAR us.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:28 PM
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47. For the Record: ...
I went belly up in 1991, when Daddy Bush ruined the nation ...

Then: ... my life improved all throughout the 'Clinton Miracle' era ...

in 2003: while Dimson holds the reins .... I lost my job .... in Defense Electronics ... after 22 + tears of service ....

I know MANY of my co workers are in JUST as bad of shape .... (Im actually doing ok, since I sold my house for a decent profit, but that was MY doing; not HIS ! ! ! .... I would just as soon have my job back and KEPT the house ... )

... so .... overall: MOST 'common citizens' did BETTER under Democratic stewardship than under GOP stewardship ....

This is always the case ....
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:42 PM
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49. There you have it. Bush made pizza available to everyone
with $45 bucks to blow on lunch. what a guy.

Before Bush, you had to look far and wide to find a $5 pizza. now, thanks to him, they are eVerYwhEre
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:43 PM
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50. There you have it. Bush made pizza available to everyone
with $45 bucks to blow on lunch. what a guy.

Before Bush, you had to look far and wide to find a $45 pizza. now, thanks to him, they are eVerYwhEre
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:25 PM
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25. He is nefarious, evil, cynical, and paranoid....
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 02:29 PM by kentuck
and is a dangerous person leading our nation at a dangerous time. Just because he might send his mother some flowers does not mean we can say nice things about him.

(added on edit)

But as Wes Clark as said, he was able to defeat his alcoholism and keep his family together. :)
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:28 PM
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27. you better buy him lunch....
There is nothing he has done that is worth any merit whatsoever.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:29 PM
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28. Better yet, can *he* say anything good about Bush.
He can defend him.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:06 PM
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70. good point
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Redneck Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:30 PM
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29. He is uniting the left.
See he really is a uniter not a divider.
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reachout Donating Member (236 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:30 PM
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30. Logging
Old growth forests have fared better under Bush than they did under Clinton.

Under Clinton's Option 9 plan an average of 1.1 billion board feet of ancient forests were cut down annually. Much to logging industry's chagrin, under Bush, around 200 million per year has been cut. Already, that means that 2.7 billion board feet LESS has been cut under Bush than would have been cut if the Clinton plan had continued unabated.

If Bush is elected this time around and if his logging success rate stays the same, then in eight years Bush's total cut of Ancient Forests will be 1.6 billion board feet. That is exactly what was cut in just one year under Clinton's 1995 Salvage Rider to Option 9.


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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:55 PM
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66. Back that up
You have a reference for that data? I find it....well never mind. If you can back it up I'll accept it. Have a link?
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:35 PM
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31. The Best thing that Bushco did for us...
..was make those of us who took the Constitution and Bill or Rights for granted to wake up and relize that our country has been hijacked by a group of cook-the-books criminals.

Made us realize that the USA is not and should not be or become an Imperial Power.

The best thing that GW did was energize the left against them in all shapes and forms and types against the lying corrupted corporate cronies.

The unethical and immoral Bush administration, the GOP, and their media whores have in-actuallity created a very powefull, progressive, and most of all mostly correct anti-thesis, to their corruption.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:39 PM
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33. Hear, hear.
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 02:40 PM by myrna minx
I have learned to never, NEVER take for granted the liberties and rights afforded to us by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Our Democracy is a fragile, organic being, that needs to be nourished in order to grow and survive. So far this administration has dumped roundup all over it.
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kayell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:43 PM
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37. He's cured me of watching tv
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 02:45 PM by kayell
I was down to the news programs, quit those, gave the tv away last week.

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uh, ...the do not call list.

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um... nope, that's about it. * is truly King Minus, everything he touches turns to shit.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:44 PM
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38. Choking on the pretzel was about as close as he came.
But he lived through it and screwed that up too.
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:53 PM
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54. that ones below the belt
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NoKingGeorge Donating Member (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:50 PM
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40. He has exposed how dangerous it is to
have people like cHeney, rUmmy and wolfowiz come into power. Good thing he is such an obvious idiot or we would not have been able to identify those in control so quickly.
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waylon Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 02:50 PM
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41. The bet he made was
whether you folks would have ANYTHING good to say about bush. Leo thought you were all too blinded by hate to say anything good. Im proud of ya.

Giving the enemy credit for what he has done well is a sign of character and justifies the passion behind our message.

Thanks for lunch, all of ya! :)
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:07 PM
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44. hmmm Let's see
1) Do Not Call List

2)Sent aid/rescue people to Iran after the earthquake

3)I now have read the Constitution own it and cherish
every part of it .

4) clearing brush at the ranch in Crawford is probably
a good thing .

5)I now have gotten to know the true teachings of Jesus
and feel more close to my faith than ever before . I Still
refuse to be labelled a Christian cause I still Believe
all organized religion has been tainted by earthly greed.

6) Gave rise to people studying History like never before.

7) everyday he's on vacation is a good thing , because
he doesn't dismantle American's future prosperity while
on vacation .

8)Activated me to protect and defend American people
and the Constitution from his attacks .

that's all I can think of .
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:19 PM
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45. Better Question. Why would we want to?
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cpa Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:32 PM
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48. A Good Thing Bush Did
I think the invasion of Afghanistan, the overthrow of the Taliban and the destruction of Al Qaeda's camps was a good thing.
The problem began when Bush invaded Iraq.
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:51 PM
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51. TRUE
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eyeontheprize Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:58 PM
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67. That certainly would have been a good thing if he had done it,
but the Taliban is regaling strength and the damage done to aq was to decentralize it, not destroy it.

The cause of the failure in Afghanistan was "war lite" the concept that we shouldn't go into win decisively. Not unlike Vietnam.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:51 PM
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52. He spends lots of time on vacation which means less time
to screw things up.
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LeahMira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 03:55 PM
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55. Sure...
I understand that his home in Crawford is equipped with a solar system, a windmill generator, and a waste water recycling system as well as geothermal heat.

I just don't understand why he has these things for himself yet is unwilling to do what it takes for the rest of us to be energy-efficient.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:00 PM
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56. Sending aid to Iranian earthquake victims...
As has been stated above, Nixon and Raygun look like models of rectitude compared to our current boy-Emperor*.

I would take Nixon back IN A SECOND if he was alive today. His honesty in comparison to Emperor Bunnypants* makes him look very attractive these days.

I am sitting here wracking my brain. I can think of more than a few good things to say about Nixon, Raygun, Goldwater, Bush I, and Eisenhower (the last honest Republican pResident).

But Bush indeed has been a nightmare on just about every level I can think of, up to and icluding disregarding dozens of warnings about 9-11 before it happened..

From a personal perspective...being faced with the greatest threat to Liberty and Democracy during my lifetime, the Bloodless Coup of 2000 and it's aftermath has caused me to take stock of myself and my beliefs. Just the first taste of our Soviet-style transition here in Imperial Amerika has helped me gain awareness and sympathy for oppressed peoples, particularly the Germans of 1933.

(that's no mean feat, given I'm a Jew)

I used to say, "How come the average Germans didn't DO ANYTHING to stop Hitler?"

No I know why from living through something much less severe (thank God for the atrophied checks and balances of the Old Constitution and Bill of Rights which still protects us from whatever the Imperial Final Plan is for control of domestic dissent) but very much related.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:32 PM
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58. Well
He did prove he was a uniter by uniting the entire world against us.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:38 PM
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59. I think that's his real hair.
That's something nice.:D
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:48 PM
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62. George the Lesser's daughters are kinda hot
Edited on Thu Jan-08-04 04:50 PM by johnfunk
Love that Babs...



(... yep, that's her gen-you-wine fake ID)

... and love that Jenna...

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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:07 PM
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71. Don't make me sick
They are about as hot as Laura as far as I'm concerned. Look beyond the plastic, buddy.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 04:49 PM
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65. Seriously
I think the appointment of Colin Powell as Secretary of State was a good thing. Colin Powell seems like a decent guy who, I think, fights hard for diplomacy. Why he has not resigned by now, I don't rightly know.

If only Bush would listen to him every now and then.

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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-04 05:02 PM
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68. He said publicly Saddam had no ties to 9/11
Albeit under pressure, at least he said it. He still combines the two anyway, so does it count?
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