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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:57 PM
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Since When Is Lisa Marie Presley A DIVA??
or for that matter Jennifer Lopez? At least Lopez has been singing for a while. But Presley...???

ABC is promoting the Primetime special with Diane Sawyer - giggling with the so called DIVA's.

I remember a time when the term diva was reserved for the best opera vocalists - now it means nothing
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:24 PM
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1. She's more like a freak
she is strange.. I can't stand to watch her talk or sing.


:-)
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kixot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:26 PM
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2. I have top agree at least slightly on that one.
Lopez? Puhleeze! At least I find LMP a little more deserving of the title simply because her last name is PRESLEY. But Lopez? :puke:
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:27 PM
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3. I didnt even know LMP sang
and JLO is kinda iffy.
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:29 PM
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11. What about her:




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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 05:52 PM
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4. I know
Jennifer Lopez and Lisa Marie don't even put their voices front and center.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 06:05 PM
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5. since Diana Ross lowered the bar a long time ago
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SPICYHOT Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 06:09 PM
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6. well a this time
any woman with a little bit more of money and a couples of surgeries on it can be called Diva, So I just need the surgeries.

Diva Yessica :thumbsup:
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 06:11 PM
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7. Jen Lopez is in my town filming a flick...
Edited on Wed Jul-09-03 06:13 PM by Darth_Kitten
apparently, near Lopez sightings by co-workers were the talk at coffee break.

She's important to all the screaming teeny boppers who were at sites where she was filming. I'm an old codger so I can't see what all the fuss is about. :)
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Astarho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:50 PM
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8. Diva now seems to mean
a pushy, obnoxious, prima donna, so J Lo would qualify but I don't know about Lisa Marie.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 09:12 PM
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16. i think I heard JLopez on SNL refer to herself as a diva ...
...faux pas....

I thought...no, girlfriend...we'll let 'you' know

hey, it's a Bu$hed-down world when we're being entertained by the likes of Joey Bishop's former sidekick (Regis) and his former cohort Gifford ...

nothing but repeats of repeats, and other rut level quality media ...

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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 07:51 PM
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9. Personally I was never a big fan of people like her
You know, who get by mostly on their father's name recognition. But then, that's just me.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:26 PM
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10. Diva
has become a meaningless word/title to be conferred upon women who lack substantive talent but are famous for their fame and lay some small claim to singing and/or having big breasts or both.

Jennifer Lopez is NOT a major talent. If she weighed 300 lbs. we would not be aware of her existance.

Aretha is a totally different story.
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RememberJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:30 PM
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12. Diva began being applied to female R&B-pop singers...
...in the mid 90s after En Vogue's album "Funky Divas"

Term was reserved for the more successful of them - Whitney Houston, Madonna, Mariah, Janet Jackson, etc.

Then the term was expanded to include older female singers who would fit the description...

...then it expanded to include country artists...

now it applies to any female singer no matter how long she's been around.

I prefer the mid-90s definition - so Lisa Marie doesn't qualify.
J-Lo does.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:39 PM
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13. Title inflation and delusions of grandeur
A lot of people out there call themselves Divas/Godesses/Studs/Pimps/ and other nice things. That doesn't make it true. To quote Tyler Durden "Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken"
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MoonAndSun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 08:45 PM
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14. According to the dictionary:
diva:

1)woman opera singer: a distinguished woman singer, especially one who sings in operas

2)temperamental woman: an extremely arrogant or temperamental woman


Maria Callas personifies #1, JoLo is definitely #2
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-03 09:06 PM
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15. Like 'superstar,' it's an overused term....
Both are now overused to the point of meaninglessness. I don't think that any of the '80s-'90s era female pop stars qualify as true 'divas,' unless you're talking about them having an overblown ego and a sucky attitude. There's another word for that.

At left: not a diva At right: a superstar

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