Who Cares? What will it take for you to make a stand?

[The Democratic Kid]

It now takes about 23.00 to fill my tank with gas. Thats twice a week at a cost of 46.00 a week, 184.00 a month. 2208 a year. Now I ASK YOU, what price would send you out in the street protesting? 3.50 4.00 4.50 5.00 or higher? What will it take to move people into action? We are being ripped off by our Government and big business. The cost of health care is out of control every dime you are working for will go to pay for your health care. We The People must be more out spoken. Stand up and fight back today or lie down and be taken advantage of ripped off and suffer tomorrow! Take Care, THE Democratic KID...

[KissMyAsscroft]

1. We pay the least for gas in the world..

In Europe the pay 5 a gallon. Imagine that.

It's not necessarily gas prices...it's the price of everything going up when wages are stagnant....


Basically, the "misery index" that Kerry is using these days.

[Instant Karma]

14. If Americans added up what they pay in federal taxes

for oil company subsidies and oil wars, including Plan Columbia, which was really a way to militarize Columbia for their oil and has made no difference with drugs, they would stop spreading the rumor that they pay less. They pay far more than 5 dollars a gallon.

[Deja Q]

28. Everything goes up in price because somebody has to DRIVE it there. Also,

It's not all about being stagnant. It's about corporate profit. If they'll go so low as to kill their fellow American to go exploit someone half a world away, they'll do anything. This means more Americans lose their jobs. That means fewer people can buy things. As demand shrinks, prices must go up so that the poor widdle corporate CEO can maintain his grotesque salary.

Not to forget the questionable points:

We drive greater distances than Europe.

There are more drivers in the US than Europe; they've got more and better forms of mass transit.

We're a larger country than Europe.

[BlackVelvetElvis]

2. Buy groceries lately?

I heard the price of a gallon of milk will be over $3 soon.
Hopefully the high price of gas will give incentive for the government to enact a "Manhatten Project" to find a reasonable way out of our dependance on oil.
In my dreams.

[LastKnight]

3. i dont give a fuck about gas prices.

its the hundreds of people weve lost on this false war and how many hundreds more we could possibly lose, not to mention the THOUSANDS of innocent lives in collateral damage were causing. the price of gas is insignificant next to the cost of a single human life.

-LK

[The Democratic Kid]

6. Amen Pal

I'm just using gas prices as an example. no life is worth a gallon of gas W. IS wrong for America

[Skittles]

24. WOW LK

Check out my post further down; I posted it before I read yours.

[jadedcherub]

4. well...

"Adjusting for inflation, gasoline prices in 1981 were the equivalent of nearly $3 a gallon now."

http://www.startribune.com/stories/535/4688421.html

and it doesn't get better.

"Once inflation is taken into account, today's gas prices are not even close to the highest in U.S. history. What's more, the share of consumer income required to keep tanks filled is lower today than for most of the 20th century. By that yardstick, gas is cheaper than it was in the 1920s, the '30s, the '40s, the '50s, the '60s, the '70s and much of the '80s."

So, I guess at least more than $4 before I'll take to the streets for gas.

Actually, probably a bit more than that. Although, I would like to take a wack at some healthcare reform.

[skooooo]

5. price of milk is about to skyrocket.....

...heard on TV it could get up to $4 a gallon in some places.

[TheFarseer]

10. On something like that

The best cure for high prices is high prices. If milk is high, alot of people that might have bought milk won't buy milk and so demand will go down. Also people that could raise dairy cattle but won't at low milk prices will raise dairy cattle, putting more milk on the market. Supply and demand are not elastic like that with gas.

[skooooo]

12. yeah, except a lot of kids aren't going to get

the milk they need for a while...i don't consider myself "communist", but the capitalism being practiced in the world today is just such total BULLSHIT! I'm sick of it.

[Deja Q]

29. It's been $3.50 per gallon for real milk for some time, and there's

supplements and alternatives to milk.

Gas is more important as we can't drive milk or anything else to stores, grocery or otherwise.

Our economy is headed for a catastrophic collapse, and I haven't mentioned everything else that's going to lead to it. (housing bubble, offshore outsourcing, prices being raised at home to compensate for the lesser amounts of people who can afford it because Baby Bunting CEO wants to take home the same or higher salary, and other factors I don't remember. Like peak oil...)

$4 is nothing. I'd get really jumpy at $4.50 though.

[TheFarseer]

7. I'm pretty pissed about gas prices too

Theres not much I can do about it. I can try to drive less but I've still got to get to work and have a life. That's the point we're over a barrel and whoever is jacking us on gas knows that. I'm fighting back on health care though. I don't have health insurance. I can't afford that crap and I probably won't need it anyways. I know I'm taking a chance, but I'm just not going to pay $200 a month so that I can have...........well, NOTHING!

[coltman]

18. I have insurance and

getting the bastards to pay for anything is a royal pain in the ass.A policy holder has to fight tooth and nail to get get these assholes to live up to the contract,in the mean time your credit is trashed .You might be better off without insurance I mean dirty american business sucks.

[Don_G]

8. Gas IS Going Up

But since almost every food and bulk delivery is being transported via Semi, how far do you expect prices on everything to go up?

Ten to twenty percent?

[The Democratic Kid]

9. Try to understand

I want to know at what price for gas, milk, Health care what ever. What will it take for you to go out AND PROTEST? I'm using gas prices because it's easy to pick a cost.

[Don_G]

17. Pick An Expense

And calculate "blood-out-a-turnip" factor.

Let's see now, a fifty-cent rise in gasoline costs will translate into how many millions for Pfizer's CEO in the Cayman Islands?

How much more do we need to bleed for China, India and our CEO's before you and I can afford milk and bread in the US?

[Fenris]

11. Why does this country not expect to sacrifice anything in wartime?

Did we lose that notion after World War II? Rationing, collecting scrap metal, "making it do"....civilians had to sacrifice for the war effort. Now we just go about as if it was nothing at all. We sit in our 11 mpg automobiles and complain when gas prices rise ever so slightly. Europe pays much more for gas. We could learn a thing from them about cutting down emissions and reliance on petrol powered vehicles.

[skooooo]

13. only people sacrificing are the poor...

...that's what pisses me off.

[The Democratic Kid]

15. I would pay higher gas prices

if the money was going to help the troops or to have better more affordable health care or to help children have better lives, but thats not the case the money goes into the pockets of corruption and greed! THE Democratic KIDD...

[Fenris]

16. Ergo, you shouldn't pay for gas

[BlackVelvetElvis]

19. What was it Bush said recently

it was about sacrificing during a time of war. Along the lines of "people don't like to give things up".
Says it all about how selfish we have become since WWII.

[livetohike]

26. You're right

and did Bush even ask us to sacrifice (conserve energy for example).

He believes that if we "consume mass quantities" that equals a good economy. The more we spend, then the more jobs will be created.

He is an idiot.

[TheFarseer]

20. except this is nothing like WWII

We didn't convert all our factories(i think we still have a few that aren't outsourced right : )) to making tanks and planes. No one's being drafted yet. There's no food shortages, we don't need "victory gardens" or anything. No one's making sacrifices except those people already in the military and honestly it doesn't seem necessary. You're absolutely right that we need to drive more fuel efficient cars and find alternative energy sources but that's true with or without a war.

[leftyandproud]

21. In Europe, its as high as$6.00 in U.S. dollars per gallo...stop whining.

Taxes in the US are only around .75 per gallon...nada compared to most countries.

[Skittles]

25. when people in Europe pay $4000 in dental bills

like I did last year, I'll take pity on their gas prices. They get a lot more for their taxes than we do.

[Deja Q]

30. Maybe the US should develop:

More close-knit communities.

Better mass-transit systems.

Imrpove the current mass transit systems.

Imrpve working conditions so RUSH HOUR can be avoided as that leads to a whopping huge waste of gas. (We're all slaves to the 9-to-5 shit and that's got to stop.)

And so on and so on.

PEOPLE NEED TO WHINE. Otherwise not a damn thing will get changed. And if we don't change, as a country, we're about to become the latest page on the History channel's new best selling book of failed empires.

[Gildor Inglorion]

22. Sorry, but I don't care...

Gasoline should be taxed at about $5.00 per gallon and the proceeds used to fund universal health care. If you don't like the high prices, start walking, buy a bike, take public transportation (yeah, sure, like it's available anywhere outside of major metropolitan areas).:-)

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

33. I'd like to see more mass transit

I plan to move to NYC or more urban within NJ relatively soon, but right now I live in the suburbs a mere 30 miles from NYC and I can't get anywhere without a car. It's ridiculous.

[Skittles]

23. I don't give a f*** about the price of gas

as long as our soldiers and Iraqi civilians are being KILLED EVERY DAY. If I'm going to fight it will be for THEM, not cheap gas.

[ScreamingMeemie]

27. Here, here Skittles!!

:toast:

[mvd]

34. Completely agree, Skittles

:thumbsup:

Apparently, Cheney and Bush and the rest of the gang of slugs don't care about high gas prices anyway.

[JVS]

31. umm, something else

Don't care to die on this hill.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

32. The price of gas? wtf?

With all the fucked up things happening in the world, it's the price of gas that has you upset?

[ikojo]

35. What about using a bike or walking?

Most errands are less than five miles, or so I have heard.

Here is a website for those interested in using a bike more than a car...

http://roadbikerider.com/commuters.htm


I have been car free for 14 years now. It's not always easy in St Louis trust me on that one!

[afraid_of_the_dark]

37. I would love to be able to ditch my car.

But the mass transit in my area is a joke. It's getting to the point where I can hardly afford to fill up the tank of my compact car... I can only imagine what the people with the big trucks, vans and SUV's are paying for a tank of gas.

[lyrical di]

36. live elsewhere then complain

I've tried Europe and Asia. Prices were high so you were forced to conserve and share. Great busses and trains. Lots of walking paths. Healthier people. More recycling. More caring.
Return to US is disheartening. Throw away, replace with the new every year, no recycling.
I went car shopping one weekend because I'm at 240,000 miles and am afraid it will fall apart down the interstate someday. I REFUSE to buy something that gets less than 20 miles to the gallon. Name some that do.
Gluttons, rich repubs driving their SUV's.
I need a vehicle to seat 6 people regularly, sometimes more and there aren't many out there with good mileage. I'll hang onto my 15 year old van that still gets 21 mpg.

[afraid_of_the_dark]

38. It's so difficult to find a fuel-efficient vehicle

that will seat that many people (for those who actually need the space!). I applaud your efforts. I have similar mpg standards when I go car shopping, but I only need something for me and my SO.