Does Chappelle's show (on Comedy Central) offend you?

[ecstatic]

[rucky]

1. Yes! And I Love It.

[Champ]

2. Not once

If your a girl under the age of 12 and your high on Marijuana... Don't ride your bike.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

3. Yes, but

only insofar as that if the tables were turned and a white guy did the exact same skits, he'd be lynched by now. There shouldn't be a double standard for political correctness in our society.

[ecstatic]

4. Tough Crowd with that Quinn guy

Very offensive show!

Edited to say: I think its funny when both sides argue it out.

[Champ]

5. Yeah that is offensive

But to be totally honest, I haven't seen one clip that deemed offensive.

[THUNDER HANDS]

7. there isn't

It's just that no white people are as funny as Dave Chappelle.

A white person could get away with racial humor, but he'd have to be as funny as Chappelle is.

[deutsey]

8. Mel Brooks, especially in "Blazing Saddles"

:thumbsup:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

11. Blazing Saddles

was before the political correctness era of today. Good call though.

[tjwash]

26. Mel Brook's has that penchant...

...for going way over the top to prove a point. Blazing saddles was definitely right in your face with the racism, and got you: a)laughing you rear end off, and b)talking about it. The genius part of the movie, is that Mel got Richard Pryor to write most of the jokes, and that added tons to the rawness of the whole movie.

[Nailzberg]

50. Hey, where the white women at?

I love that movie. Only Mel Brooks could have gotten away with that.

Not to mention getting away with Slim Pickin's making a rape joke funny. That is a tough sell.

[deutsey]

53. "It's twoo, it's twoo!"

Madeline Kahn (sp?) was great in this movie, too.

"They're always coming and going, and going and coming...and always too soon."

[Occulus]

28. "The Producers"

came out on Broadway recently, and it would be laughable to call it "politically correct" by any stretch...

[Catholic Sensation]

29. it's been out on broadway for like five years

:)

[deutsey]

30. I was lamenting just the other day that "Blazing Saddles"

could never come out today.

Oh, comic genius in that movie, on-screen and behind the scenes.

[name not needed]

56. hey where the white women at?

:)

[ecstatic]

9. True

A white guy actually went on BET's Comic View and made racial (stereotype) jokes about blacks and guess what? The audience laughed and so did I because it was very funny!

[TroubleMan]

60. Gary Owen

aka "The White Guy on BET"


He's funny as hell and he gets away with shit like Chappelle does.


By the way, the Chappelle Show is my current favorite.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

10. oh please

You can't possibly tell me that there aren't any white people funnier than Dave Chappelle. He's only ranked 43rd of the best 100 comedians.

[ecstatic]

13. But it takes certain skill

To be able to approach touchy issues like race without offending people. So even though there may be comedians who are funnier than Chappelle, that doesn't mean that they are able to broach touchy subjects as well as Chappelle can.

[THUNDER HANDS]

18. there aren't any funnier white comics who use racial material

I mean, there's Andrew Dice Clay, but he's by no means funnier than Chappelle.

[no name no slogan]

37. That list was shite

They put never-funny asshat Dennis Miller above Andy Kaufman, for Allah's sake. Tell me that ain't a f*cked up call. I think we need to check who put that list together, first-- it looked like it was done by a bunch of insecure WASP males and old jewish comics who they flew in from the Catskills.

And how the hell did Colin Quinn even get onto the top 100 anyway? He's never been anything but an annoying cracker who turned everything he touched into crap! He sucked on Remote Control, blew on SNL, and does the physically impossible by both sucking AND blowing on Tough Crowd!

Dave Chappelle is one of the funniest guys around today. No doubt.

[Champ]

16. Only white person funnier then Chappelle imo

is George Carlin and I seen him get away with racial humor. I've seen him get away with worse!

[noiretextatique]

15. you're offended, but mainly because a white guy can't do it?

:shrug: it seems that you're the one with the "pc" problem.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

19. I do have a problem with pc

I think there's a huge double standard in our country. We should all be held accountable for our racist remarks, no matter where they originate.

[ecstatic]

23. also

the majority of Chappelle's skits make fun of black people.

[Champ]

24. Lil' Jon!!!

YEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!

OKAAAAAYYYYY!!!!!!!

WHAAAAAAAATTTT!!!!!!

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

27. LOL

I wish they didn't keep beating it to death though. It was hilarious the first time. My favorite is still the Rick James skit.

[skooooo]

58. I like Lil John too!!

WHAT?

WHAT?

WHAT?

WHAT?


OKAAAYYYY!

[noiretextatique]

31. the double standard: like powder and rock cocaine?

the double standard in terms of sentencing? or would that double standard be racial profiling leading to "driving while ______" stops, ticketing and arrests? would that be the same double standard that got amadou diallo 41 bullets for reaching for his ID? life expectancy, infant mortlaity rates, rates charged for mortgages and loans...other areas where double standards exist.

"PC" is hardly a double standard worth noting, considering all the REAL double standards in this society...but it is a great weapon of mass distraction to breed resentment...and indiffernce to real double standards.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

33. Who said that any of those double standards are acceptable?

Certainly not me!

[noiretextatique]

34. just an example of how the "PC" debate shifts reality

and attempts to create victims where none exist. the double standard you were referring to, for example.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

35. I see where you're coming from

I do think this is a bigger problem than you acknowledge though. I just fear that we're going to wind up with a large racist backlash if the envelope keeps getting pushed like this.

As I'm typing this, I'm starting to realize that there are racist people out there probably just using this type of humor as an excuse for attitudes would have anyway. I don't know... I guess I'd rather not give them that excuse, but I'm starting to see where you're coming from.

[DrWeird]

42. Do you see a difference...

between white people using the word 'nigger' and black people using the word 'nigger'?

[Catholic Sensation]

43. for one thing the two terms are spelled differently

"nigga" is the term blacks use. Nigger is the slur used by ignorant whites.

[DrWeird]

45. Trivial difference.

same word.

[Catholic Sensation]

47. mean two different things and used two different ways

nigga means friend, and most blacks use it as such.

nigger is a slur, used to demean a black person.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

44. Yes and no

I've heard the explanations for and against it, but to be honest, it seems sort of convoluted.

[DrWeird]

46. What's your explanation.

Do you see a difference or not.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

48. Not really

But because I don't really understand, I don't really have a hard opinion on it. I don't think there should be a difference, but there obviously is and nothing is going to be done about it one way or another anyway.

[DrWeird]

49. Here's the difference.

"nigger" is a racist word. One should assume that the person using the word "nigger" is a racist.

Barring a few exceptions, such as:

1. The context I just used it in, i.e. discussing the word itself.

2. Black people using it. Obviously black people aren't racist towards black people, barring exceptionally rare instances.

3. Fictious dialogue.

As Dave Chapelle put it: " 'you should cancel the Dave Chapelle show, because he's an obvious racist.' I'm sorry. I didn't think it was that obvious."

[Catholic Sensation]

51. so... you want the show cancelled?

i'm sorry, but considering I'm not re-reading all the posts on this thread, is that what you're suggesting?

[DrWeird]

55. Reading is fun-damental.

:eyes:

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

57. I understand THAT part

I don't understand the more complex argument about why it's okay for black people to call each other "niggers". The point you made about black people obviously not being racist towards themselves makes some sense and goes towards what I'm talking about, but there are more exceptions than you let on (ie. using the word against each other in a fight. It's obviously being used in a derogatory manner in these instances.)

[jobycom]

20. Sure there should

Big difference between someone from a culture with the power to oppress a culture and a history of oppressing cultures making fun of another culture, and someone from an oppressed culture with no power to oppress trying to gain some dignity for his culture through humorous and satirical jabs at the oppressing culture.

Huge difference. Don't fall for the conservative attempts to equate the two.

[Fenris]

22. You do realize that Dave's co-writer is white, correct?

[Cannikin]

6. Offends me far less than the current administration.....

[cleofus1]

12. a couple of points...

He does not come across as a bitter or mean spirited guy...
His humor is derived from his life's experiances...
and His timing is impecable...

[bicentennial_baby]

14. Oh hell no!

It's probably my favorite current show. Dave is fucking hilarious.

[Mr. Blonde]

17. Funny at times

Sometimes this show is the funniest thing around, sometimes it isn't that great. Aside from "The Passion of the Jew" the Rick James show may be the hardest I have laughed this season.

I would like to see George Carlin on a skit show like this. I think he could find time to properly offend everyone. Probably have to be on HBO or something though to get the full effect.

[deutsey]

40. The Rick James skit was the funniest thing I've seen on TV

in years. I want to buy a copy this season when it comes out on DVD just for that alone.

[Catholic Sensation]

41. Black Bush was better than Rick James

M A R S, MARS, BITCHES!

[deutsey]

52. I liked Black Bush, but it just didn't make me laugh as hard

as the Rick James skit.

"Cocaine's a helluva drug."

[Catholic Sensation]

54. well nothing beats the ending of last week's south park

:D

[Blue-Jay]

21. No way!

It's hard to work up a good righteous indignation when you're laughing your guts out. It's edgy sometimes, sure, but not offensive. Not to me, anyway.

[Catholic Sensation]

25. no, even his skit about a black white supremacist didn't bother me

Black Bush in 2004, MARS BITCHES!

[no name no slogan]

39. That one was THE BEST!!!!

I loved the gas station scene, when the good old boys were going after him for being black, and he started hurling the N-word with the best of them. Damn, that was funny!

Charlie Murphy's True Hollywood Stories also kick ass (both the Rick James AND Prince ones), as did the whole Wayne Brady episode. And of course the sheer hilarity of the "Niggar Family" could not go unmentioned, either!

[gyopsy]

32. I find it to be incredibly stupid

But it does not offend me.

[dawg]

36. Ashy Larry offended me ...

I felt like I needed to go put on some lotion!

[JohnKleeb]

38. are you kiddin, I love that show

[BlackVelvetElvis]

59. I've never watched this show

Now I feel as if I'm really missing something great.