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masmdu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:48 AM
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What Non-Hybrid Car gets the Best Gas Milage....?
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 11:59 AM by masmdu
Looking for a good used car. Up to 7 years old or so. Prefer Honda or Toyota...not interested in the little tin cars that fall apart and are destroyed in crashes.

What Honda or Toyota gets the best milage and what is it? (No hybrids please)

Small cars are ok...

Please give milage figures in your replies. Thanks!
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:50 AM
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1. No small cars?
are you looking for a midsize? Do you prefer a 2 or 4 door?
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toddzilla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:50 AM
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2. probably the smallest civic 3 door..
not sure, but i don't like toyotas, honda for me.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:53 AM
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3. honda
one of the best cars ever made
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:55 AM
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4. Toyota Echo?
Maybe a Honda Civic. Or maybe a VW Golf Diesel?
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 11:58 AM
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5. VW TDI Diesel - Roughly 50 Miles Per Gallon With A Manual Transmission
pretty amazing - available today!
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:03 PM
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7. Older models have reliability issues
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:50 PM
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15. Link Requires Subscription - The TDI Is A New Engine
eom
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:01 PM
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6. Why no hybrids?
You can get a used 2000-2003 Prius quite reasonably!

I drive a 2002 Prius, and now have 27,000 miles on it with ZERO problems. And it is a no-compromise car. I am 6'2", and #290, and I fit it quite comfortably. It accelerates well, can maintain highway speed with no problems, pollutes less than ANY non-electric car on the road, and I get (real world) 44 miles per gallon.

When looking at mileage numbers on cars, please do understand that they are totally artificial government tests. NOBODY drives like that, and hence, nobody gets the mileage that the EPA numbers claim!!! They serve as a rough basis for comparison, no more.

So, I ask again, why do you rule out hybrids?

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masmdu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:05 PM
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9. Because I'm poor and only have 3-4k as my budget
If i could afford a hybrid i would get one.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:13 PM
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12. Good reason!
At that price, I would look more at finding a reliable car than a fuel efficient car.

Also, at that price you are talking a high odometer mileage car.

My previous car was a 1994 Pontiac Grand Am that I got for $3200. It had 102K miles on it when I got it, but it was in great condition. All of the accessories worked, the maintenance record showed it had been taken care of, the brakes were good, and the alignment was such that the car would steer straight for a number of seconds with hands off. I got another 44,000 miles on it before I traded it in for the Prius.

If you do not understand cars (I worked as a mechanic when I was a young man) bring a friend who DOES when you go shopping. The last thing you want is to spend your limited money on a lemon.

Good luck!
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:05 PM
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10. gas four-bangers will give similar real-world mileage
and superior performance
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:03 PM
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8. Corolla, Echo, Matrix or Civic manual
I heard VW diesels are good. Just about an four-banger with a stick will give you better performance and value than a hybrid. Also Ford Focus, Saturn, Chevy Aveo, etc.

It will take more than 7 years of driving a Prius before you justify the extra cost. And that's if you only drive in the city. If you take a Prius on the highway you will never justify the cost.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:12 PM
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11. The government has a fuel economy comparision site
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deadeye Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:43 PM
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13. my wife's 96 Saab 9000 CSE gets
30-35 mpg and also goes 150 mph, and is also a good looking car (if I do say so). Would cost you $6K - $8K dollars for a similar one. Is not maintenance free, however.
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Kurt Remarque Donating Member (709 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 12:49 PM
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14. my 1991 civic still gets 38/city, 44/highway
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 01:53 PM
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16. The VW Jetta Gets Close to 50 MPG
I believe that's with the diesel engine.
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