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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:19 PM
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Poll question: Is a woman's right to choose Unconstitutional and discriminatory?
I am a male. If I decided to get an abortion, could I get one? Under current law, I don't think that I could. It seems to me that granting only the right to choose to women is discriminatory, under the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment.

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:21 PM
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1. Remember Reg from Monty Python's Life of Brian?
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:22 PM
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2. I wish to be called Loretta
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:06 PM
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24. Men should have the right to have babies first
then the right to abortion.

Equality now!
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:28 PM
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3. Well, it depends.
I think the male should not have the right to force the woman to carry through her pregnancy.

But I do think that the male should have the right to be exempt from caring for the child if the woman decided to have the baby without his consent.

Unless, of course, she told him beforehand that she would not have the abortion if she got pregnant, and he still decided to have sex, so it's not a clear-cut issue. It would have to be decided on a case-to-case basis.
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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:30 PM
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5. he's upset because he can't get an abortion
and I agree, it totally goes against the 14th amendment that he can't get an abortion! </sarcasm>
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southerngirlwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:16 PM
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13. In reality, this is a prescription to put women and children
into worse poverty than their already too-high numbers.

A woman who has an abortion opts out of parenthood.

A man who is not required to support his child is being given an opt-out of RESPONSIBILITY FOR PARENTHOOD. The fact of parenthood is no different.

You think taxes are high now? Wait until every guy out there can decide that he never really wanted his kids to begin with. Most of those kids will be on some form of welfare, or they'll starve.

What you propose makes for interesting dinnertime conversation, but in reality would be a nightmare.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:36 PM
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18. All good points
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 06:36 PM by slavkomae
And I concede I haven't thought this through.

Maybe there can be a written document signed by both parties saying that they expect to abort if by chance they get pregnant.

But you think putting on a condom or a diaphragm interrupts the romantic flow? Think about what that would do...
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southerngirlwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:37 PM
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19. I like that idea.
I imagine that people would take sex a lot more seriously.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:07 PM
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26. this is what we discussed in my class, about how there should
be a legal contract for expectations of parenthood before getting pregnant when a couple marries.
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southerngirlwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:26 PM
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28. I was browsing at B&N last night and saw an interesting book
proposing licenses for parenting. The next time I save $20, I'm going to go buy it.
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:27 PM
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29. exactly! but there are also arguments that it puts poor women at a
Edited on Tue Apr-20-04 07:27 PM by slinkerwink
disadvantage who can't afford a license to parent. I wouldn't recommend parenting contracts as a law for everyone but as an individual contract between parents.
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sus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:30 PM
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4. as soon as you get yourself a womb
you just choose away.
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Van Helsing Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:31 PM
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6. It takes two to make a baby...
so yes, I think the male should still be able to decide or not. I guess it just depends upon the situation and the case. :shrug:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:32 PM
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7. if its in my body
and feeding off me..your ownership of the single sperm cell is rather unimportant.
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:35 PM
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8. You're all missing the point!
Has nobody ever seen....



What about Ahnold?

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Catholic Sensation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:42 PM
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9. I figured the fact this discussion was in the lounge
would have tipped them off.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 03:45 PM
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10. Arnold should have been forced into abortion!
Humanity cannot allow such freakish child-bearing men to reproduce! :-)
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 04:22 PM
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11. Mandatory abortion?
What are you, a godless chinese communist?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 05:57 PM
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12. Ixnay on the inesechay ommnistcay!
You'll blow my cover!
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:17 PM
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14. This is satire, right?
I mean, since a man can't get pregnant, why the hell would he need an abortion?
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:17 PM
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15. this is a dumb poll because men can't get pregnant
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:54 PM
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21. Ahnold can
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dpbrown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:20 PM
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16. I'd like to see you squeeze a baby out your urethra
Then I think you could squawk about your nonexistent rights.

DPB
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:34 PM
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17. What about me? I can't get a prostate exam!
And does my gynecologist check me for testicular irregularities? No! The system is so fucked up!
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:51 PM
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20. Yeah, but
you could legally do all of that, couldn't you? There's nothing written in law barring you from doing that. So if you to be checked for "testicular irregularities," all you have to do is ask doc. ;)
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 06:58 PM
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22. In this movie where did the baby come out?
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:04 PM
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23. C section
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:06 PM
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25. Wait til Biggus Dickus hears of this! n/t
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-04 07:07 PM
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27. Sure, men can have an abortion
It's called an enema.
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