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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:22 PM
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Remembering Gallipoli: ANZAC Day
http://www.nzhistory.net.nz/Gallery/Anzac/Anzac.htm


A war memorial window in St. Andrew's church at Cambridge in the Waikato.

Australian and New Zealand Army Corps

Anzac Day in New Zealand is held on 25 April each year to commemorate New Zealanders killed in war and to honour returned servicemen and women. The day has similar importance in Australia, New Zealand's partner in the Australian and New Zealand Army Corps at Gallipoli. The ceremony itself has been continually adapted to the times, but has also steadily acquired extra layers of symbolism and meaning.


The Gallipoli Campaign


Soldiers firing a cannon at Gallipoli.


Evacuation by boat of the wounded from Anzac Cove.




The Homecoming from Gallipoli. {The landing of NZ's first wounded, 15 July 1915}. (1916). W.A. Bowring.


The Band Played Waltzing Matilda by Eric Bogle

Now when I was a young man I carried me pack
And I lived the free life of the rover.
From the Murray's green basin to the dusty outback,
Well, I waltzed my Matilda all over.
Then in 1915, my country said, "Son,
It's time you stop ramblin', there's work to be done."
So they gave me a tin hat, and they gave me a gun,
And they marched me away to the war.

And the band played "Waltzing Matilda,"
As the ship pulled away from the quay,
And amidst all the cheers, the flag waving, and tears,
We sailed off for Gallipoli.

And how well I remember that terrible day,
How our blood stained the sand and the water;
And of how in that hell that they call Suvla Bay
We were butchered like lambs at the slaughter.
Johnny Turk, he was waitin', he primed himself well;
He showered us with bullets, and he rained us with shell --
And in five minutes flat, he'd blown us all to hell,
Nearly blew us right back to Australia.

But the band played "Waltzing Matilda,"
When we stopped to bury our slain,
Well, we buried ours, and the Turks buried theirs,
Then we started all over again.

And those that were left, well, we tried to survive
In that mad world of blood, death and fire.
And for ten weary weeks I kept myself alive
Though around me the corpses piled higher.
Then a big Turkish shell knocked me arse over head,
And when I woke up in me hospital bed
And saw what it had done, well, I wished I was dead --
Never knew there was worse things than dying.

For I'll go no more "Waltzing Matilda,"
All around the green bush far and free --
To hump tents and pegs, a man needs both legs,
No more "Waltzing Matilda" for me.

So they gathered the crippled, the wounded, the maimed,
And they shipped us back home to Australia.
The armless, the legless, the blind, the insane,
Those proud wounded heroes of Suvla.
And as our ship sailed into Circular Quay,
I looked at the place where me legs used to be,
And thanked Christ there was nobody waiting for me,
To grieve, to mourn and to pity.

But the band played "Waltzing Matilda,"
As they carried us down the gangway,
But nobody cheered, they just stood and stared,
Then they turned all their faces away.

And so now every April, I sit on my porch
And I watch the parade pass before me.
And I see my old comrades, how proudly they march,
Reviving old dreams of past glory,
And the old men march slowly, all bones stiff and sore,
They're tired old heroes from a forgotten war
And the young people ask "What are they marching for?"
And I ask meself the same question.

But the band plays "Waltzing Matilda,"
And the old men still answer the call,
But as year follows year, more old men disappear
Someday, no one will march there at all.

Waltzing Matilda, waltzing Matilda.
Who'll come a-waltzing Matilda with me?
And their ghosts may be heard as they march by the billabong,
Who'll come a-Waltzing Matilda with me?


Keep this thread kicked to honor the soldiers of the Gallipoli campaign.

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hel Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:29 PM
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1. Greetings from Turkey
Have you ever been to Anzac Day's ceremonies in Turkey?
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:45 PM
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2. No, but I imagine it's quite different.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 12:50 PM
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3. I was in Sydney for Anzac Day
a few years ago. The Gallipoli bar opened at 6:00 am that day and I got to talk to some old diggers about the war. It was awesome.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 01:19 PM
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4. Colonialism is not something I care to glorify

We are living through the legacy of colonialism today and it
has been a disaster for humanity.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 01:26 PM
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5. This isn't about colonialism
It is a way for the people of Australia and New Zealand to commemorate their dead lost during the Gallipoli campaign. A soldier is a soldier, regardless of the activities and intents of their government. If you wish to decry imperialism, then great. But realize that the agents of imperialism were real human beings who were thrust into a war by their government and paid a heavy price for it.
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Teddy_Salad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 01:59 PM
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6. Australians and New Zealanders
have lost more of their own fighting other peoples wars.....(Boer War, WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf Wars) than any other nation.

Anzac Day is not about commemorating 'colonialism', it's about Aussies and Kiwis remembering their war dead.

I wish we'd stop running around the world fighting other peoples wars.
Especially Bush's.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 03:14 PM
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8. "Colonialism is not something I care to glorify"
In which case you should be all for Anzac Day, then. Right?
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 03:16 PM
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9. Hey, B!
Good point! Thanks for posting!
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 03:19 PM
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11. Thanks for posting this, Fen.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 03:21 PM
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12. I thought it was important and warranted posting.
We in America tend to forget that other countries have memorial days and holidays that stand for something that we may only be dimly aware of. One can learn about where one's country is going by looking to the past of other's.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 03:06 PM
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7. If you haven't seen the movie "Gallipoli," check it out.
It's a 1981 Australian film directed by Peter Weir; Mel Gibson is in it. This was such a powerful movie, a great anti-war film. I was totally flipping out at seeing what went down. It's one of those movies with a really powerful ending. It makes you shake your head and say, "Wow."
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Teddy_Salad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:12 PM
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15. Breaker Morant
Another great Aussie film worth seeing about Australians executed by the British during the Boer War.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 09:07 PM
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18. You're right. That's another one definitely worth seeing.
It's not the kind of movie I usually like, or even bother seeing, but my friends kept talking about how great it was, so I checked it out. And it turned out that I really liked it.
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Teddy_Salad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 09:52 PM
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19. It's pretty sad, huh?
.
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 03:19 PM
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10. The NZ National War Memorial in Wellington.
Very effective building.


http:/www.nationalwarmemotial.govt.nz

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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:07 PM
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14. stories from some of the survivors ...
http://www.ozbird.com/anzacpilgrimage.htm

Alex Campbell, 98, "The Kid Soldier", Tasmania, is the youngest Anzac alive. He joined up at 16 and sailed with the 15th Battalion for Gallipoli. He was badly wounded and shipped back home.





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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:03 PM
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13. Kick for the evening crowd
:kick:
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 07:56 PM
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16. Churchill
Wasn't the Gallipoli landing Churchill's idea?
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 10:09 PM
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20. Yes and it nearly wrecked his political career
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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-27-04 07:56 AM
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21. Churchill was not the sort of guy you let near high-strategy matters.
He's pretty much responsible for Iraq, ferchrissake!
Brilliant speaker, genius wit, dodgy grasp of strategy.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-04 08:22 PM
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17. Kick for the ANZACs
:kick:
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