Anyone else HATE alcohol besides me?

[RandomKoolzip]

Can't STAND alcoholic beverages. I haven't had a beer in about 5 years. Hate the taste of alcohol and I hate the behavior of drunken people. I hate that most social gatherings are almost required to center around alcohol consumption.


Am I alone here?

[rumguy]

1. hate's a strong word

[RandomKoolzip]

4. Well, my wife drinks wine, and I don't MIND the company of drunk

people if they're already good friends of mine. But I despise the stuff and the smell of it makes me wanna barf.

I guess HATE is a strong word, but I just don't understand alcohol's central standing in social interaction.

[kalian]

2. Crickets chirping....

:evilgrin:

[dolo amber]

3. You are clearly a freak.

No one else feels like you. You should assume a mask of shame and only appear on the fringes of society from now on.

:P

[RandomKoolzip]

7. Whaddya mean, "from now on?"

Story of my life, sunshine.....

[dolo amber]

17. Ok, explain to me

why I like you again?

Hate techno....hate alcohol....


;)



:loveya:

[RandomKoolzip]

25. Ummm....my hummel collection?

The fact that I always smell like coldcuts? Fudge?


Jeez, that IS a hard question! (Sometimes I wonder why *i* like myself, too....)

[dolo amber]

30. Cos you're wonderful

Marvellous...etc.

;)

[RandomKoolzip]

34. You're the top!

You're the mona lisa, you're the top.......

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

82. You're the Queen Latifah

You're the top

[RandomKoolzip]

88. I saw you with Keifer!

you're the top!

Teadtke! Teeeeeadtke! Teadtke.....Teadtke. (sung to the tune of "See me, feel me" by the Who)

[NightTrain]

5. Having grown up in a family of alcoholics...

...I am a complete teetotaler (sp?)! If I have a beer once in three years, I've accomplished something.

[rumguy]

6. Charles Bukowski on beer

BEER
from: Love is A Mad Dog From Hell

I don't know how many bottles of beer
I have consumed while waiting for things
to get better
I dont know how much wine and whisky
and beer
mostly beer
I have consumed after
splits with women-
waiting for the phone to ring
waiting for the sound of footsteps,
and the phone to ring
waiting for the sounds of footsteps,
and the phone never rings
until much later
and the footsteps never arrive
until much later
when my stomach is coming up
out of my mouth
they arrive as fresh as spring flowers:
"what the hell have you done to yourself?
it will be 3 days before you can fuck me!"

the female is durable
she lives seven and one half years longer
than the male, and she drinks very little beer
because she knows its bad for the figure.

while we are going mad
they are out
dancing and laughing
with horney cowboys.

well, there's beer
sacks and sacks of empty beer bottles
and when you pick one up
the bottle fall through the wet bottom
of the paper sack
rolling
clanking
spilling gray wet ash
and stale beer,
or the sacks fall over at 4 a.m.
in the morning
making the only sound in your life.

beer
rivers and seas of beer
the radio singing love songs
as the phone remains silent
and the walls stand
straight up and down
and beer is all there is.

[dolo amber]

11. Bukowski is GOD

That is all.

:loveya:

[RandomKoolzip]

16. And anyone who's seen "Barfly" knows what an all-around

great guy Bukowski was. /sarcasm


That's another thing I don't get: the romance surrounding the shit. Some asshole gets drunk and suddenly he's Brendan fucking Behan....it doesn't work that way.

my favorite singer/songwriter in the world, Robert Pollard of Guided by Voices, would be ten or twenty times better as a musician if he would just STOP DRINKING. (I bet that's what's causing the breakup, too....)

[dolo amber]

39. Uh-huh...

Just look at all the groundbreaking stuff The Replacements did after rehab...


:P

[RandomKoolzip]

42. Hmmmm.....you have a point......

Okay, SOME people it works for, I have to admit. Alice Cooper's sober moments certainly weren't very immortal, either.

[HEyHEY]

59. Bingo

It's too fucking easy to be a boozer, give up on life and hide from that fact by pretending to be a deep thinking genius.

Anything sounds profound when you're drunk, but to all the sober people...you sound like a dipshit.

I should add... I am well aware I'm not one to talk.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

69. I'm sick of your unoriginal macho energy!

By the way Why did it have to be Eddie?

[RandomKoolzip]

74. BECAUSE he represents everything that disgusts me!

That's riiiight. Nobody owns anybody.....I just thought we had something special.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

81. Well I drink.. and when I drink I move in the wrong direction!

Towards my 1973 Chrystler New Yorker Brougham

[Don_G]

Cats Too?

[strategery blunder]

8. Fellow booze-hater here

I had a sip of gin mixed with Diet Coke when I was seven...EWWWWWWW!:puke:

This had the effectiveness of about three thousand parental 'talks.' Haven't touched alcohol since (except for communion).

[Whitacre D_WI]

64. Ew.

I think that's more the fault of the Diet Coke than the gin. ;)

[TSIAS]

9. I don't hate it

I've only really had one taste of alcohol, and that was because some friends made me. I have no desire to drink at all.

However, I understand people who enjoy drinking. It's not my cup of tea, but there's nothing wrong with it in moderation.

[unblock]

10. me! i've NEVER understood alcohol

seeing as even food cooked in alcohol gives me a wicked migraine, i suppose i'm more biased than the typical teetotaller.

but i've see it lead to death and ruin, broken marriages and ended friendships.

all to temporarily loosen some inhibitions?

not worth it.

[Donkeyboy75]

60. Alcohol probably isn't giving you the migraines,

unless the cook sucks pretty bad. Things such as wine and sherry are added for flavor, and in every recipe I've seen the alcohol is boiled off (it has a much lower boiling point than alcohol). Perhaps it's the flavoring that gives you the headache...or just the mental association?

[Guaranteed]

12. Personally, I think drinking makes me more

sophisticated, and wittier, to boot. :P

[happyslug]

18. I have to disagree with you and agree with Lady Astor

Who said when asked why she did not drink at parties responded "I want to know when I am having a good time".

[Guaranteed]

33. Oh yeah? Well...Oscar Wilde said that

uh....uh...

Dammit, I need a beer. :)

[Lasira]

13. you're not a freak

I feel the same way. It doesn't matter how weak the drink is, the nasty alcohol aftertaste is always there, and (I think for that reason) it makes me feel nauseated right away.

Some drunken people are assholes and others are hilariously funny. I'm not a fan of big social gatherings in general, but it doesn't bother me when my small group of friends breaks out the vodka during a card game.

[Amaya]

14. I absolutely don't hate alcohol

I never drink to get drunk... Hey man, lighten up :smoke:

[mitchum]

15. Don't hate it, but am indifferent to it

There are MUCH better ways to alter one's senses

[RandomKoolzip]

20. Exactly...

Now, were a buddy of mine to break out the shrooms....now that's different, and I'd partake in a New York second.

I'm in a band, and none of the other members drink or do drugs either...just by chance, three of us had an aversion to alcohol and like the same kind of music.


I AM addicted to ginger ale, though.....Ah, ginger ale, my pale dry mistress......Shweppervessence!

[mitchum]

26. Another ginger ale freak here

Have you ever tried it with a drop or two of bitters in it? Yessir.

[RandomKoolzip]

29. Sprechter makes an AMAZING ginger ale...

It's clear, and made with real ginger and a shot of vanilla. Man, I wish I had that shit on tap at my house.

[Eureka]

28. Have you checked out Ginger Beer yet?

Come on, I'm waiting :-) Actually, I'm having some right now.

The -Beer is so so so sooooo much better than the -ale.

Can you tell yet I live near the worlds largest confectionary ginger factory :-)

They sell to the US too. If you like Ginger in drinks, try their Ginger Refresher, it's a mixer type thing, superb. You can buy online here, http://www.orderginger.com/shopping/

[RandomKoolzip]

31. Yeah, that's good stuff!

Thanks for the link. Anyone remember New York Seltzer? They had some great ginger ale, too.....I wish they were still around.

[Fenris]

19. And you call yourself a fan of Robert Pollard?

I thought that a love of alcohol was necessary to be a fan of GbV?;)

[RandomKoolzip]

22. Hay-ell Naw!

Good pot is what opened my mind to GbV for the first time. Even then I didn't drink. And like I said, Pollard would be twenty times better all around if he'd give up the booze. It's scary to watch him perform nowadays; I fear for his health cuz he ain't getting any younger. (sigh.....oh, Bob, why why why?!?!?)

Weed's okay. I don't smoke anymore, though...

[Fenris]

27. And yet, weed is illegal

I agree, though. Bob would improve without the bottle. Although, leaving this world in an alcohol-fueled blaze of glory might be a good way to get the recognition he deserves. It worked for Gram Parsons.

[screwfacecapone]

21. I couldn't drink it even if I wanted to.

You are not alone. I can;t stand it either. Not so much health reasons, but becuase of the taste. Of course getting to be the designated driver and not having to worry about a black liver are also key factors.

[K8-EEE]

23. I love wine but found when I gave it up for Lent...

that the early morning wake up call was MUCH easier...even though I rarely drink more than 2 glasses and always with dinner. I had so much more energy especially for exercising.

So I gave it up permanently for the weekdays....I do look forward to Saturday night merlot though!

[Blue_Tires]

24. never drink it

much to the ridicule of friends/family

[LastKnight]

32. i just dont get the appeal of being drunk.

i just dont. your just gonna act stupid, throw up, then pass out anyway... why not save some dignity?

-LK

[RandomKoolzip]

35. Seriously.

How many times have you heard someone apologize for being drunk and acting like an asshole? Why not just skip the middleman and go straight into untrammelled assholism? Beer shouldn't be a licence to be a jerk.

Ever heard anyone apologize for being too sober?

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

85. When I was drunk yes!

I hate you RKZ - is this an intervention?!?!?!?

[RandomKoolzip]

87. No!

Last time I saw ye, ye WERE drinking, but you never turned into a jerk. In fact, It didn't even seem like you got all that wasted. You were civil, pithy, relaxed yet energetic enough to banter, and witty.

I'm talking about pissing-on-cop-cars, starting-fights-with-larger-men, crying-hysterically-for-no-reason, setting-fire-to-the-house-because-you-passed-out-with-a-lit-cigarette-in-your-hand, manhandling-and/or-groping-women-like-you-was-the-Schwarzeneggfurher, puking-on-your-friends-shoes, pretending-you're-Jim-fucking-Morrison kind of drunk. THAT kind of assholism I'd never attribute to you.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

92. You're so sweet. All I can say is "Cardigan of Shame" was an alcohol

influenced song. Influenced in that alcohol lubed my brain to let it out. You're talking Buddy Russel style drunkeness. I understand. That does suck!

[RandomKoolzip]

94. I'm talking Josh Barnesesque.

You got nowhere near even orbiting that kind of obnoxiousness.


"He dances slowly on the sofa wearing nothing....."

[salinen]

36. I really enjoy the taste of

really fine alcoholic beverages. Beer, Wine, Gin, Scotch, Cognac, Brandy, Champaign, Sherry etc. If it isn't the really expensive, well produced variety, I'm not interested. I never even get tipsy. A small portion is all I ever want.

[jpgray]

37. Any drugs you like? (nt)

[RandomKoolzip]

40. I used to smoke about a half a pound a week of

kind bud. And If you got mushrooms, hell yeah, I'll eat a cap or two.

I used to (USED to) eat, smoke, snort, pop just about any drug on the planet you could offer me. But I never was a big fan of alcohol.

I still have cravings for psychedelics all the time, especially when my Lexapro kicks in and it feels like the eleventh hour of an LSD bliss-ride.

[jpgray]

43. LOL, I hope you weren't expecting some profound follow-up insight

Not sure why I asked, really. Think of it as going into an ever-growing and musically titled "The Potpourri of R.K.Z." file.

I find the only times liquor lets me down is when I'm with people I wouldn't otherwise want to spend time with, or in a situation I don't particularly enjoy anyway. But I rarely get drunk anymore.

[RandomKoolzip]

47. Hey everybody!!

jpgray is actually John Ashcroft!! Tell the world!!!

I keed, I keed. Shit, I don't care, my life's an open book....for the whole world to read, as Nikki Sixx once said.

Even with all the drugs coursing throuh my vitals, I never developed a taste for the sauce. I dunno why. All my friends drank, and I always had a fun time around them.

I remeber playing drums for my high school cover band and playing a keg party high as a kite on good weed, and some incredibly hot looking girl offering me a beer and me saying no. She looked horrified! There's definitely a social stigma to NOT drinking, at least among the "beautiful people."

[jpgray]

52. Don't get me started on the "calico cat" subsection of your file, citizen

The pretty people, I don't really get the pressure of that. It is sort of the high school / early college thing when you are set in your venue and company. More options, more friendly drinking environs, more enjoyment. In your scenario, I would have been saying something nonsensical and a little offensive, like "come on up to the bedroom and then give it to me, I've got to take off my shirt."

[Whitacre D_WI]

65. Well, as arch right-winger (but an impeccable arbiter of manners)...

...P.J. O'Rourke once said; if you don't drink, people will assume you're an alcoholic.

[Chicago Democrat]

44. Drunks are the worst..

But compassion for everyone is the best! Let's love and get high on whatever floats our boat and leave the judgement and hate at home.

[RandomKoolzip]

48. I don't hate the sinner...unless that sinner is *.

Alcohol drinkers aren't terrible people. Republican alcohol drinkers ARE though.

[Chicago Democrat]

53. Hehe

:)

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

70. You, sir, are a lightweight!

J'accuse!!!

[RandomKoolzip]

75. You wanna tell them about our lysergic days?

You "went there" a lot more than I did. In college though, I was a total garbagehead.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

80. I might have rabbit, I might have

[theoceansnerves]

i don't touch the stuff

being a non-drinker and a vegan pretty much means i have no social life.

[physioex]

38. If you are single....

What do you use to make ugly women look good??

[RandomKoolzip]

41. My wife looks good to me all the time.

n/t

[rumguy]

45. still no star

[TahitiNut]

46. I underwent 30 years of "aversion therapy."

It finally worked.

Once an aficionado of scotch whiskey and lover of brandies, I no longer like the taste of hard liquor ... and the smell of beer is mildly off-putting. I'd rather drink fruit juice than wine. As a former member of Les Amis du Vin, anchor man on the chug-a-lug team, campus record-holder for the half-yard, and legendary pub crawler, that's quite an accomplishment. :shrug:

[Cush]

49. non drinker here

Can't stand the smell, so I've never tried any (same with coffee)

[scottcsmith]

50. I'm not a fan

I drink a beer every other month or so, maybe less. I cannot stand hard liquor at all, and I'm not very fond of wine, either.

I drank way too much when I was in the Navy. Lots of us did. It was cheap and readily available (no beer on ships, although if you stay out at sea long enough they have a "beer day" and you get a free beer) and although I was not an alcoholic, I was an alcohol abuser.

Too many hangovers and blackouts eventually led me to giving up the booze almost completely in 1998 or so. Now I just have the occasional beer. I think the last beer I had was on New Year's Eve, and that was only one beer.

A friend let me try a sip of his Jagermeister and it was the nastiest, most vile liquid I had ever imbibed. Nyquil tastes better.

[kimchi]

51. Don't hate them, but drink only once every 5 years or so.

I don't handle my liquor well, and abhor people when they are shit-faced. My husband drinks a beer or two every night, but rarely gets lit. To each his own, in moderation, and all that.

I prefer an inhaled, water-cooled, herbal refreshment. It not only relaxes my mind, but helps save money on doctors and chiropractors, and lessens the need for painkillers. I didn't realize how well it worked until I ran out for several weeks.

As I always say: "Smoke all you want; God will make more!"

[Delano]

54. No, but alcohol is WAY overrated.

I enjoy about a 6-pack of beer every 2 weeks so (not all at once), and I nver get more than a very mild buzz. I hate really being drunk, and hangovers, etc. Whiskey, bourbon, rum, etc. are foul, and wine is not so hot either.

My dad is a drinker the smell of bourbon on his breath is one of my most repulsive memories of childhood. He cannot EVER go a single day without several drinks (although he almost never gets noticeably impaired) I've never understood that addiction. His girlfriend is exactly the same. When they come to visit me (they live in Texas), their first stop after arriving to their hotel is to go to the walgreens to get some wine in a box. When I travel, getting hooch is always the last thing on my mind. I'm more excited about the change of scenery...

[wickerwoman]

55. Ditto.

My dad always makes me go out and buy booze for him when he's too drunk to drive. He's diabetic as well and shouldn't be drinking anyway. I guess he gets points for not driving drunk, but I'm glad I moved away and am out of that enabling shit.

I've never really seen the attraction in drinking and 99.9% of drunk people bore me stupid. Is it too much to ask to be able to walk to work without smelling piss on all the walls and stepping over pools of vomit?

[SarahB]

56. Not hate, but...

I wish it weren't so central to socialization for so many so often. I drink pretty minimally and not a lot in quantity. I've seen it do a lot of harm when people use it to escape their pain or problems instead of dealing with it.

[MichaelHarris]

57. I'm

not to hip being around drinking. I used to drink a little but I never really liked the "atmoshere". Maybe being hit by a drunk driver when I was a kid or the fact that when my wifes on call she gets about a gabizzlion calls to admit drunks. We live in a college town and drunk students go to the hospital, not to jail.

[charlie]

58. Not bananas about it

For the life of me though, I cannot figure out how alcohol became the worldwide drug of choice. With a huge pharmacopeia of delights available to us, that one of the most physiologically punishing, derangement-inducing drugs is universally enjoyed and regarded almost as benignly as tea, is bizarre.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

61. I hate beer, wine makes me drowsy these days, and

I lost my taste for hard liquor about 20 years ago. I like my drinky-poo (Kahlua and cream) and fruity drinks with rum in them, and I appreciate a nice pinot grigio or merlot, but I very rarely drink. And drunks are dull when you're not drunk as well.

[VOX]

62. Booze doesn't have the appeal or efficacy that it once did...

I used to really knock it down in college, but I as I got older, the hangovers became more brutal, sometimes streching into a couple of days.

Somewhere along the way, booze sort of became irrelevant -- I can be wild and crazy and silly while just sipping mineral water, and I spare myself all those trips to the bathroom. :)

All of which is not to say that I don't enjoy a bit of, um, alteration every now and then (cough).

[Piperay]

63. I can't stand drunks

I don't find them entertaining, only repulsive. :silly: If you can't drink in moderation than you have no business drinking and making a disgusting spectacle of yourself by being obnoxious.:mad: I'm not a total alcohol hater, I like a little wine now and then and sometimes a mixed drink but just the smell of beer makes me want to... :puke:

[Whitacre D_WI]

66. If by "hate" you mean "love," in some twisted Orwellian sense...

...then yes, I hate alcohol!

[Loonman]

67. That's odd

Your hero, Robert Pollard, is a legendary drunk.

His liver probably looks like Swiss cheese, by now.

[RandomKoolzip]

76. I know, I know......

As previously mentioned in this thread, Bob would be capable of even MORE greatness if he'd let go of the amber teat.

Mr. Smith is something of a boozer himself, innie?

[Whitacre D_WI]

78. But you don't know that.

It's the old Bradbury thing -- go back in time, step on a butterfly, you just might fuck everything up. Sure, Bobby MAY have been a better musician/songwriter without the booze; but he may just have ended up another burned-out middle-school teacher with a chip on his shoulder.

It's impossible for any of us to say how altering the parameters would change the results.

Now gimme my goddamn drink. It's after 9 already.

[Loonman]

89. Not anymore

Not since 1993. He quit smoking in 1989.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

68. So how does this apply to our sound collage Herr Komissar?

Riddle me that oh abstinant one!!!

[RandomKoolzip]

73. It means I'm not gonna be chugging Pernod straight from the bottle....

But I might just inhale some butane here and there.

You and Paul can get legless on the fluids; I'll be on the couch, breathing deeply.

[Whitacre D_WI]

77. THERE's the problem!

OF COURSE Pernod tastes nasty straight out of the bottle. That's why the French invented water.

[skippysmom]

71. Social drinker married to non-drinker here

I will have a glass of wine or beer once in a while, but my drink of choice is usually ginger ale. Hubby doesn't drink at all. I drank a bit more when I was younger but not much more. I hate feeling like crap the morning after.

I only have a few friends who drink copiously, so thankfully most social occasions I go to revolve around other things.

Nope, you're not alone.

[jonnyblitz]

72. me. my "polite" attention span for drunk people is 5 minutes

after that, get me the hell away from them. This is based on years of bad experiences with alcoholic family members. The wrong stuff is illegal as far as I am concerned.

[regularguy]

79. I like (really like!) a few beers....

Although I admit to secretly wishing that I could have the ultimate authority over who will and who won't be allowed to drink in public.

[geniph]

83. I don't like to drink to excess

but I very much enjoy a glass of wine with my dinner.

There's a lot of alcoholism in my family, so periodically I go without the wine for a couple of weeks, just out of sheer paranoia.

I've only once in my life drunk enough to be physically sick, and I was taking Wellbutrin then (you aren't supposed to drink at ALL on Wellbutrin, you can induce seizures). But I like the occasional glass or two.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

84. Most distilled drinks taste yucky to me.

Whisky, tequila, sake, cachaça, vodka... ewwww.

Unlike beer and wine, which go down just fine.

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

90. Not to quibble but sake is not distilled and it isn't a wine either

People call it rice wine but, since rice is a grain it is technically rice beer. Either way its not distilled and I personally enjoy ice cold quality sake.

[LibInternationalist]

95. Same with me

Used to like the harder stuff, but now I can't stand the taste -- literally makes me want to puke, even in mixed drinks (unless mixed very well)

[Susang]

86. The health benefits of moderate drinking just keep on comin'

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go lower my cholesterol and up my bone density. Here's to you! :beer: :toast: :beer:

"Drinking alcohol in moderation can reduce your chances of suffering a wide range of maladies, according to a selection of recent studies.

Heart disease   A study of 14,000 male doctors treated for hypertension found that those who consumed one or two drinks a day reduced their risk of developing heart disease by 44 percent, compared to nondrinkers.

Lung disease   Resveratrol, found in the skins of red fruits such as grapes reduced lung infl ammation in patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, the cause of at least 3 million deaths per year.

Type 2 (adult onset) diabetes   In a study of 22,000 twins, moderate drinkers were less likely to develop type 2 diabetes than nondrinkers, particularly among those who were not overweight. Heavy and binge drinking may increase the risk of type 2 diabetes in women.

Osteoporosis   People with diets high in silicon, a mineral found in dark beer, had higher bone densities and therefore a lower chance of developing osteoporosis. The bone-benefi ts in the 2,800-person study appeared most clearly in premenopausal women.

Dementia   Those who consumed one to three drinks per day reduced their risk of getting dementia by 42 percent compared to nondrinkers. There was no difference in the source of alcohol the 5,400 test subjects drank.

Obesity   The extra calories in a glass of wine or beer with dinner don't end up on people's hips, but instead, in this preliminary study, appear to help the body get rid of excess weight.

Sources: Heart disease: Archives of Internal Medicine, March 22, 2004; Lung disease: National Heart and Lung Institute, London, October 2003; Type 2 diabetes: Diabetes Care, Finland, October 2003; Osteoporosis: Bone and Mineral Research, Feb. 2004; Dementia: The Lancet, Netherlands, Jan. 26, 2002; Obesity: Paper presented at American Heart Association Epidemiology Meeting, San Francisco, March, 2004."
http://www.boston.com/yourlife/health/other/articles/2004/04/06/drink_to_this/

http://www.acsh.org/publications/booklets/alcohol.html

http://nutrition.tufts.edu/consumer/balance/2004-03/beer.html

[Jeezwhiz]

91. Rehab

I spent 4 weeks in alcohol rehab; I agree with you..it's a bad thing.

[GumboYaYa]

93. I used to be a major partier.

knocking back ten - fifteen martinis in a sitting was nothing for me. I would drink wild turkey neat and beer was just like water to wash down the real stuff.

As I got older, I would only drink on the weekends, but still to excess. One day I just decided it wasn't for me anymore. I have a beer every now and then after I have been working in the yard or a glass of wine with a nice meal, but that is it. It's kinda the been there done that syndrome. There is no intrigue or excitement in getting drunk anymore.

Now, don't expect me to stop smoking kind bud any time soon. This maturing thing will have to be done in baby steps.