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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:31 AM
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Moral Dilemma raised by watching "24"
while I am strictly in favor of civil rights, and in fact hope to possibly make a career in international human rights, I find myself rooting for Jack Bauer even when he's torturing people -- is this wrong? Am I just blinded by the goodness of the show? Arggh
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Commendatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:33 AM
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1. I'll bet Bush and Ashcroft love the show,
because it gets you and me thinking like that. Wonder how many of the show's writers are on the GOP payroll.
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cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:34 AM
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2. Um, 24 is fake
There is no Jack Bauer and he is not actually torturing those people. They are all acting. Just because it's on TV, doesn't make it true.

I'm sure this is coming across as me being an a-hole, sorry about that. Just trying to be funny.
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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:35 AM
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3. I realize it's fake
Edited on Wed Apr-28-04 10:36 AM by TN4Gore
but it's still psychologically disturbing that I could condone such behavior, even in fiction

On Edit: and just because it's fiction, doesn't mean that very similar things don't happen (torture-wise and deprival of rights, not widespread biological terrorism)
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:39 AM
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4. That's what Tarantino movies are all about
He makes you realize you're cheering for the bad guy (mostly because everyone in his movies is bad).
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cjbuchanan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:45 AM
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6. But it's just acting
I know similar stuff happens in real life, but just because it makes for good TV, doesn't mean that you support it in real life.

I liked Cheers, but I don't think it's a good thing for people to spend all their free time in a bar.

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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:43 AM
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5. i don't get the show
I tried watching it for the first time yesterday. I didn't see anything that great about it.

It's no Sopranos.
It's no Homicide: Life on the Street
It's no Oz

It's a low-grade, watered-down, network tv show.

Bleh.

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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:57 AM
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9. this season is weaker than others
and it does help if you watch them from the beginning

and what's more, I don't have HBO, and Homicide isn't on anymore, dammit
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jtb33 Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:46 AM
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7. I've never seen the show...
Can you explain what you're referring to?
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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 11:01 AM
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11. he's a federal counter-terrorist agent
and his job has him in "ticking bomb" situations where civil rights are violated all over the place to prevent terrorism
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screwfacecapone Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:51 AM
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8. not really becuase
Edited on Wed Apr-28-04 10:55 AM by screwfacecapone
WARNING: THIS POST CONTAINS POTENTIAL SPOILERS. DON'T READ IT IF YOU PLAN ON SEEING THE SHOWS ON DVD.



















He only does it when he has no other option. Besides, he knows his bounds. (i.e. he didn't really kill sayeed ali's kid, he feigned it. ANd with saunder's daughter, he only got rough with her at the beginning. Soon, he simply gained her assistance by playing taped and audio footage.) Last season, he, Tony, michelle, and president david palmer were pulling out all the stops in order to find the truth behind the audio recordings and prevent war. Ryan chapel, the vice president, his advisors, and pretty much everyone else in his cabinet were hell-bent on going to war.
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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 10:59 AM
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10. you're right, and
if everyone with that amount of power could be relied upon to be as good as the Jack Bauer character, then I wouldn't have a problem (but they can't)
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SideshowScott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 11:09 AM
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12. I have more of dilemma that its on FOX
I do enjoy some 24..Although there may have been some shark jumpage this season..I just wish I could not watch FOX alltogether..But Sudays with King of the hill and Simpsons and 24 its very tough
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screwfacecapone Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-28-04 11:30 AM
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13. it's hard
it's the only time a week when you have to watch fox. So for now I'll keep fantasizing about the day fox and it's news channel collapses under the weight of it's own bs and 24 is picked up by the WB or UPN.
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