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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:14 PM
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Seeking recommendations: collections of short stories

I'm looking for some good nightstand reading, in particular any short-story compilations that are dark, intelligent and exceedingly well-written. I've pretty much run through the authors I know, and I'm drawing a blank. Anyone have any ideas or recommendations?


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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:48 PM
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1. Have you read
Raymond Carver? "What We Talk About When We Talk About Love" is a good collection. Consistently grim.

or

Roald Dahl--he of Willy Wonka fame. His short story collection is surprisingly dark, but looking at how he offed so many greedy kids in Wonka, I guess it's not that surprising.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:08 PM
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4. another vote for carver
there is a new book out by a guy, Berger, I believe, supposed to be pretty good, I'll track it down
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:14 PM
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5. The great thing about Carver
is that he puts the 'short' in 'short story'. My favorite is "Popular Mechanics," which is about 4 grafs long.
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:56 PM
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12. sounds very cool

I'm a big fan of brevity in writing. I even like my poems short (my favorite, if I had to pick one, is Langston Hughes' Motto -- all 8 lines of it :) ). It always amazes me how a good writer can say in 10 pages what a mediocre writer can't say in 100.


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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:35 PM
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8. new name to me

Which is, of course, exactly what I was looking for :) I'll check it out when I go book shopping tomorrow.


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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:42 PM
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9. Ooh--also, just remembered
"I Thought My Father Was God," an anthology edited by Paul Auster for the NPR National Story Project. 180 true stories by average people. I'll crib from the blurb:

"...Most of the stories are short, vivid bits of narrative...Some are funny, like the story of how a Ku Klux Klan member's beloved dog rushed out into the street during the annual KKK parade and unmasked his owner as the whole town looked on. Some are mysterious, like the story of a woman who watched a white chicken walk purposefully down a street in Portland, Oregon, hop up some porch steps, knock on the door--and calmly enter the house..."
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:51 PM
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2. "The Simple Art Of Murder," by Raymond Chandler


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0394757653/qid=1086482871/sr=1-12/ref=sr_1_12/103-3312311-0872609?v=glance&s=books

"From Library Journal
Chandler is not only the best writer of hardboiled PI stories, he's one of the 20th century's top scribes, period. His full canon of novels and short stories is reprinted in trade paper featuring uniform covers in Black Lizard's signature style. A handsome set for a reasonable price."

"dark, intelligent and exceedingly well-written"...a good description of Chandler's work.

:toast:
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 07:54 PM
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3. Flannery O'Conner.
" .. dark, intelligent and exceedingly well-written." That's Ms. O'Conner. Very dark, smarter than I, and as tight as a drum.
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:00 PM
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13. Another new name to me

Out of curiousity, does she have any particular topical genre she fits into (crime, horror, etc)?


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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:21 PM
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15. Southern Gothic
O'Conner's short stories are classics. They were required reading in English 102 when I was there (1966). Racism and religion (particularly the dark notion of Flannery's Catholic salvation) are the main themes. Strong themes, too. There is always the ubiquitous dark line of trees against a bright sky (O'Conner's moral inflexibility, perhaps). Read "Three" by Flannery O'Conner, a good starting place.
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:16 PM
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16. thanks for the info.

We engineering students mostly got the crash course in lit, I'm afraid ... but I can draw up a mean Bode plot :)


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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:03 PM
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18. Ugh
Christian Existentialism... I had to read "The Violent Bear It Away" for English class. Easily one of the worst books I've ever had to read for a class; I'm pretty sure only Wuthering Heights was worse.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:21 PM
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21. the best
see the movie Wise Blood, too, if it's available

John Huston's last, I think

main character prosletyzes for the "Church of Jesus Christ Without Jesus Christ"

etc
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:16 PM
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6. Honore de Balzac's Droll Stories
short, well written and slightly risque stories.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:32 PM
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7. If you like the Vietnam genre ...
Try the short stories of Tim O'Brien, particularly The Things They Carried, which - if I remember correctly - is a compendium of his short stories on that subject. Also check out Tobias Wolff. I have seen his short stories in Granta, and he has a great little novel called In Pharaoh's Army.
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kiahzero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:49 PM
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10. Smoke and Mirrors by Neil Gaiman
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 08:50 PM
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11. I've got an enormous anthology of Philip K. Dick, and another of Harlan
Ellison -- both make good reading, if you like scifi.
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Mike Niendorff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 09:05 PM
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14. I've been thinking of checking into Philip Dick
Edited on Sat Jun-05-04 09:11 PM by Mike Niendorff

I thumbed through one of his books of short stories last time I was at B&N (can't remember the specific title offhand), and I've heard *tons* of good comments on him over the years, but I just haven't broken down and picked one of his books up yet. Definitely one I'll be checking into.


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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 10:19 PM
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17. Clive Barker's "Books of Blood". I'm serious. If you don't mind the
macabre. These stories are extremely well written and clever.

If you go in for that sort of thing, an early Stephen King ("Nightshift") is also good, uneven but some really high notes.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:05 PM
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19. The collected short stories of Guy de Maupassant
Also, if you really want dark, try "The Acid House" by Irvine Welsh.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-05-04 11:12 PM
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20. shorts by Ethan Canin
he is really good.

Can't beat early Updike.

Also Issac Babel.

Lori Moore, as well.

Short stories are great.
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