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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:02 AM
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Stalag 17
I finally got to see this movie last night and it was excellent. The Geneva conventions played a big part in it. It was on TMC and i don't think it was a coincidence. If you've never seen it hope fully they will rerun it again today. I'm gonna guess that Hogan's hero's was based on this movie.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:06 AM
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1. Stalag 17 is an EXCELLENT movie!
One of the best WWII films ever!
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:21 AM
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4. Yep... William Holden Won An Academy Award For It That Year...
but many say it was because he was "cheated" out of the award from the previous year. (Is my memory serving me correctly? If not, I'm sure someone will bring me up to speed.)

My favorite characters are Animal, Schapiro, and the nasally-sounding "At-Ease" guy.

-- Allen
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:25 AM
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6. Did you know...
that Bill Holden was best man at Ronald & Nancy Reagan s wedding?

I love Bill Holden, so I know Bill Holden trivia!
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Tom_Foolery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:58 AM
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8. Another bit of William Holden trivia...
Edited on Thu Jun-10-04 10:07 AM by Tom_Foolery
He was part of the inspiration for J.D. Salinger's character Holden Caulfield. Joan Caulfield was the other inspiration. The story that I read said that Salinger was trying to come up with the character's name when he walked by a marquee with the names William Holden and Joan Caulfield starring in DEAR WIFE. The last names were in huge letters side by side and stood out. Salinger said that they just stuck in his head. This might be apocryphal, but it's a good story anyway.



Edit: Corrected my grammar.
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lil-petunia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:14 AM
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2. when the script showed up, the
brilliant minds at the studio almost shitcanned it because there was no way to write in a female lead. They were sure it wouldn't sell.

The same people who said that Star Wars 1 and Gigli were classics, I am sure.

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:19 AM
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3. You are correct. Hogan's Heroes was based on Stalag 17.
:thumbsup:
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:35 AM
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7. Actually, there was a law suit and a court ruled the other way
The court ruled that Hogan's Heroes was NOT based on Stalag 17.

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That aside, the climatic scene where Price, the informer, is tossed out into the camp at night both to distract the guards and punish him for his crimes is almost identical to a scene in the 1943 MGM film "Cross of Lorraine", a film about a French Army unit in a German POW camp starring Jean-Pierre Aumont and Gene Kelly.



In "Cross of Lorraine" it is Nazi collaborator Hume Cronyn who gets tossed into the yard to be executed. He stumbles around, calling pitifully for the Germans to recognize him while the guards in the towers machine gun him to death.

"Cross of Lorraine" is an interesting WWII propaganda movie in a number of respects, including the fact that one of the characters actually says "The Nazis don't kill you, they make soap out of you".
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-04 09:22 AM
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5. First movie my grandfather saw in the US
My grandparents were from the ussr. The first movie they saw in the US when they emigrated was Stalag 17. It was one of my grandad's favorites.
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