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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 02:48 PM
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Dog breeds most prone to biting
I know that a lot depends on the owner, but some breeds do seem to be more likely to bite. Some of the most likely might not be the ones mentioned as such the most. Chows do seem more likely. My Scottish Terrier also never hesitated to bite strangers.

What are your opinions?
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 02:52 PM
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1. Dogs that are bred to bite, historically
If that's what was bred in, that's what happens. You can mitigate it but not completely rule it out. I remember a woman at obedience class asking about her herding dog "Can I train him not to herd me and nip at my ankles?" :)

The answer is, not really. Like training a husky not to pull, you can do it, but not always, it's a long road, and the dog won't dig it.
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belladonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 02:53 PM
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2. I always thought pit bulls were
In fact, I was terrified of them until my son got one a few months ago. He's a real sweetie, so sweet that my daughter recently got one as well. My mother owns a chow, and he's a real sweetie as well, but I still don't find myself trusting him that much.

In MY experience, it's been smaller dogs, such as chihauhas (sorry Skinner, for both the comment and the spelling). I have never met one who hasn't wanted to take a big chunk out of my leg and I've been around quite a few :D

Before I get flamed, I'm SURE there are many ankle biters out there who are VERY sweet dogs, I just haven't met em yet :)
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:11 PM
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11. I have an ankle biter - a Pom
My Pomeranian is the sweetest dog in the world and has NEVER bitten anyone! She's also not yappy. However, she's most likely an exception to the rule for Poms and/or small dogs. I think in her case it's 50% genetics and 50% environment. She's gotten a TON of love and affection from both my husband and me.
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belladonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:22 PM
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14. Okay, you reminded me of an exception
My long deceased aunt had a Pom who was very sweet tempered and didn't seem to want to take large chunks out of my legs. He was a very smart dog too, could sit on his hind legs and eat an ice cream cone... I kid you not, amazing stuff :D
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:24 PM
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36. Chows are fairly loyal to their owners and no one else....
...although some have the sweetest disposition in the world, I wouldn't dream of approaching a strange chow without an escape route.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 11:48 AM
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54. Our neighbors have a chow
She visits us all the time. She's smart and gentle--even our cats love her. But I know that if I threatened her people, she'd rip my throat out.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 12:30 PM
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55. Pit bulls are really sweet dogs.
Edited on Sun Jun-13-04 12:30 PM by RebelOne
I've owned two of them (or rather two of them of owned me) and they are absolute darlings.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 02:53 PM
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3. Thanks for the tip
:P I was thinking of getting a Scottie but, I'm not fond of a biter.

I've had Yorkies and have 1 now. He's a very loving guy. Loves people, other dogs and cats.

My departed Yorkies would nip my grand-daughter's legs when she was a toddler but, I think they were jealous.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:20 PM
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13. I have a Yorkie
My first! Aren't they just the sweetest little souls? My Yorkie is crazy about people! She doesn't bite, but she does chew on herself quite a bit and scratches constantly. I have tried everything to make her stop, including taking her to the Vet. I have spent at least $300 at the Vet and still she persists. I am at my wit's end! Is this common with Yorkies? She doesn't have fleas and I bathe her with oatmeal shampoo twice a week. The Vet said she might suffer from allergies, much like people. Her diet consists of Nutro, both wet and dry. I give her dietary supplement capsules with Omega 3. Other then this, I don't know what else to do. :shrug: She is such a sweetheart and I hate that she suffers like this.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:29 PM
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16. my border/aussie mix is terribly allergic to burmuda grass
i put some vegtable oil on her kibble daily to keep her skin from drying out. it does seem to help a bit

The other thing is that I notice you said you bath her twice a week. That may be part of the problem, try letting her go a couple weeks so the oil can build up on her skin and coat. Brushing her every other day should keep her neat and a bath monthly should really be enough!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:33 PM
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19. Thanks for the reply
I asked the Vet about that, and she said that bathing her twice a week was fine. :shrug: I'll try your suggestion and cut down to once a week. See if that helps.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:38 PM
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22. yes and brush her so the oils get distributed
if it helps, drop to once a month (if she doesn't get too stinky in a month)
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Branjor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:29 PM
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17. Twice a week baths are too much.......
That would dry out her skin and make her itchier. Cut down to about one bath every two weeks and see how it goes.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:37 PM
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21. Thanks
You're probably right. The Vet told me twice a week was fine. She said it might soothe her. I thought it was a bit excessive. Perhaps it's time to find a new Vet?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:39 PM
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23. might be worth a visit to a doggie dermatologist
just to be sure
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:51 PM
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29. I might have to take that step
If she continues much longer. She is worse at different times of the year. Particularly during the Spring when there is a lot of oak and cedar pollen in the air. However, she is itchy pretty much year round. I've only had her since last April.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:12 PM
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33. Might be Allergic to certain food.
My Yorkie is and it was terrible to watch him scratching all the time. The first vet was a putz, the second vet said, I know exactly what's wrong. Allergy... Feed only Nutro Natural Choice Lamb and Rice Formula, treats, and biscuits.

I buy it at PetCo.

He's fine now :)
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traco Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 10:41 AM
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49. You could
call a groomer and ask their opinion too. They should be able to answer that better than a vet.
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:07 PM
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32. Sorry I kept calling her a him...
in my PM to you. :hi:

madmax to Tex's Yorkie :hug:
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 11:33 PM
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45. No problem!
Her name is Sammy. If you can believe this, she was given to me at 5 mouths old, because her owners couldn't house break her! She messed on their very expensive rug and they were going to put her out of the house or take her to the pound! So we took her in and she is the sweetest thing ever! I had her house trained within a week.
she can't stand to be away from me and likewise...........:bounce:
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AndyP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 02:54 PM
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4. I heard cocker spanials
can be pains in the ass when they get a lil up in age. I had a dog that was half cocker and she never had a problem. Maybe go to the dog pound and ask there.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 02:56 PM
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6. Good advice
I'm getting my next dog from the pound, just like I got Reba from the pound. I couldn't have found a better dog than Reba anywhere else.

This board will help in my next choice. :hi:
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 12:35 PM
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56. Yes, my son has two cockers
and one, the male, Chester, is a real terrorist. I'm even afraid to pet the little beast. I have a Rottie and that dog is more vicious than any big dog. But my doggie is the sweetest Rottie ever. She loves everyone and all other dogs. But it's another story when it comes to cats.
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Doctor Smith Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 02:56 PM
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5. Ones with teeth.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 11:37 AM
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53. Hey, that's my answer!
Edited on Sun Jun-13-04 11:37 AM by BiggJawn
I ride bikes, and it never fails to amaze me how these crackers around here think that they are so powerful that all they have to do is yell "Earnhardt! Gitchur ass back in this yard!" and their four-footed penis augmenter will stop trying to rip my foot off and turn around...But the worst ones are the little "yappy dogs". Thank goodness I can out-sprint those w no problem.

I grew up around dogs. And I learned that the purebred breeders, in efforts to accentuate certain traits in the breeds, often times wound up with animals with shitty "tempraments". Mean Chows, Collies and St. Bernars that couldn't be trusted with the kids, etc.

And that doesn't even begin to address those backyard hillbillies who TRY to breed "Mean Dawgs".

Oh, also, German Shepards run about 19 MPH, but Pit Bulls can hit almost 25 MPH....
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 02:57 PM
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7. dalmations like to nip
used to be several in our neighborhood and my daughter {dogs love her} got nipped a few times only by them.

owners do have much to do with it, but some are more high-strung
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leftistagitator Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:01 PM
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8. My Chow mutt does bite at me
But it's just a big puppy, and it doesn't really close it's mouth so it's more like it's chewing on me. I was kinda hoping they grow out of that, I hope your not telling me that's here to stay. And for all the horror stories I've heard about pitbulls, the stray one we adopted has got to be the sweetest animal I've ever seen, even going so far as to gently groom our cats.

But I'll tell you what kind of dog always scares me, the pomeranian. I have never met a nice pomeranian, they always bite at me or at least show their teeth and growl.
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:14 PM
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12. Ohhh, you guys are making me cry!
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 03:18 PM by truthseeker1
;(
:cry:

You need to meet my Pom - maybe she's just an exception to the rule but I'm so bummed to see Poms getting a bad rap in this thread.

on edit: http://community.webshots.com/photo/68619803/68623383HFGkct
She even defers to our rabbits when it's treat time!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:29 PM
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15. I have two Poms
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 03:30 PM by texasblueeyes
They are sisters and would be lost without each other. I love them dearly but oh can they bark! They bark at everything and anything that moves! They bark just to heard themselves bark! Other then that, they are sweethearts.




on edit: Your pom is a beauty!
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leftistagitator Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 08:22 PM
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38. I didn't know they came in black
She's pretty cute, and I suppose temprament does come down to the individual dog. I've just never met one that acted like it wouldn't kill me if it could.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:02 PM
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9. oddly enough ShizTu's bite a bit
they are really "one person dogs" and don't take kindly to strangers
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:05 PM
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10. Corgis and poodles, among others, can be little monsters in that respect
Seems to be mainly smaller dogs, perhaps compensating for size, though I've been menaced more than once by Alsatians/German shepherds (beautiful dogs, though), oversized rottweilers (probably trained to attack by their idiot owners), akitas (same thing, regarding idiot owners), and the proverbial scary-looking junkyard dog type (again, see owner).
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:32 PM
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18. Yep.
A poodle bit me in the face when i was 2.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:37 PM
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20. Dude, little dogs suck most of the time...
Especially chihuahuas. But my best friend found a way to fix that. Her mom accidentally dropped the runt on his head when he was born. HE acted a little retarded for the first few hours, but he's the best dog ever now. I thought she was lying, but apparently it really happened. It struck me funny when she told me, especially considering he's still alive.
Duckie
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:41 PM
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25. ok Duckie your toast now, I turned you into Skinner
nah nah nah naaaaah nah :P
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:43 PM
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26. Oh for criminy sakes....
I wasn't advocating dropping dogs on their heads. I was just telling a story.
Duckie
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:45 PM
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27.  ROFL just kidding


it was the slam against chihuahuas i'm teasing about :)
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orthogonal Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:39 PM
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24. Abu Ghraib Shepards
Abu Ghraib Shepards -- and Lynndie England, the dog-faced torture girl.
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Champ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:48 PM
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28. In my opinion...
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 03:49 PM by Champ
No single breed is more prone to biting. With proper training any dog can be a good dog. Any dog can be a biter with inproper training, both of my dogs used to bite now they won't bite even if their lives depended on it. A friend of mine for awhile was breeding Pits and alot of them were the nicest dogs in the world because he was an expert at training them. I remember one time he took the leash off his dog and she would just sit there perfectly still. He would keep backing up and away and the dog would just stay there. They have a bad reputation mostly because they were owned by novice dog owners and trainers.

ON edit: Whatever dog breed you might consider more prone to biting, I can bet you anything I can find a dog under that breed that is an exception to the rule.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:00 PM
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31. Well said. I agree.
:hi:
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:17 PM
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34. Pits are banned here in Holland...
along with 3 other fighting dog breeds - the Fila Brasileiro, the Dogo Argentino and the Mastino Napolitano.

Even though they can be the sweetest, in a crowded country like this is, Pitbull terriers were causing a high percentage of terrible biting incidents - some fatal.

The problem with a dog like a pitbull is that their enormously powerful jaws can cause such horrific wounds.

American Stafforshire Terriers are regulated here - only dogs born from breeders where there is proof that they are from dogs bred for mild temperament are allowed into Holland.

I also think that many people who bought Pitbulls here were using them as a statement - look at what a macho dog I have - and wanting to intimidate people with them.....not taking the time to socialize and train them as they must!

DemEx

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belladonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 04:23 PM
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35. I agree that it's the owners where pit bulls are concerned
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 04:24 PM by belladonna
I worried when my son got his that he was getting him as what seems to be a status symbol, especially among younger guys these days. My pit's meaner than your pit, or some really messed up reasoning like that. I was pleasantly surprised to see that he trained Jax to be a very obedient and sweet dog.


Edited because I can't spell when I'm hungover
:hangover:
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 05:23 PM
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37. There's a dog breed book that uses the bite symbol for..
certain breeds. So there must be some research on it. Still, of course, nothing is 100%.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 12:41 PM
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57. I agree. If all has to do with the owner and the training.
I have owned 2 pits and they were sweethearts. I am on my second Rottweiler and she would not bite if her life depended on it (but that does not apply to cats, because she hates them). My first Rottie was another story because her former owner trained her to be aggressive.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:56 PM
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30. Am on my third Westie
and none of thenm have been biters. Well, maybe the first one if he was near a Springer Spaniel.

My grandmother's scottie was a grouch - people think Westies are white scotties - but they're really more like white Cairns. Very different personalities.
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 08:33 PM
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39. My American Eskimo has bitten strangers.
A couple of times. She ever bit any of us though. Sometimes she'll growl if being particularly abused by the youngest one (he's almost 3), but we'll take heed and separate the two, but never has she bit him.
She's extremely protective of us.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 08:46 PM
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40. CHIHUAHUAS. My local shelter (in los angeles) gets more bite reports
on chihuahuas than any other dog.
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achtung_circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:18 PM
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41. Most dog bites are from Shepherds,
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 09:18 PM by achtung_circus
I've been ripped 3 times. Also watch Dalmations, many Rottweilers (they used to be such sweet dogs before they becam popular), Chows,
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:08 PM
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42. Dachshunds like to bite first, ask questions later.
I've owned two. And I've had three different vets tell me it's a breed thing. But they're great dogs--honestly! Smart, loyal, loving, funny, devoted--just a little on the nippy side. But the thing is, ANY dog will bite. So if there is a particular breed you're interested in, just do a lot of research on the breed first. Good training can reduce a lot of bad behaviors. It really was a help with my dogs!
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Gildor Inglorion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 10:15 PM
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43. Dachshunds are the greatest!
The only reason I don't have one now is that my landlord doesn't allow pets, but I do have visitation rights to one, and she's a great comfort to me.
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Dastard Stepchild Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 11:11 PM
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44. Ex Dog Groomer Here
The bane of the dog groomer's exisistence was none other than the cute n' cuddly Golden Retriever. All smiles and waggy tails on the outside, but inside lurked a black, seething, vile-spewing hatred of humanity. Seriously.
Goldens bit humans the most. My theory? Overbreeding.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 07:23 AM
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46. Hmmm. this is surprising!
I thought that Goldies were the perfect family dog....

Interesting.

DemEx
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 09:15 AM
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47. My golden would greet a burglar with kisses and show him where
the jewelry is. You just can't get this dog mad if you tried.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:23 PM
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63. My Rottweiler is the same way.
Looks intimidating, but a big pussy cat.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 09:26 AM
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48. Which breeds taste the best???
I'd find that out first if I was going to be biting any.

No sense in biting a dog that's not going to taste good. ;-)
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 11:14 AM
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50. According to Trivial Pursuit
German Shepherd Dogs bite people more often than any other breed.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 11:21 AM
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51. intact males
poorly socialized, poorly trained, intact male dogs are responsible for most dog bites. breed means NOTHING!!
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 11:22 AM
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52. Smiling Jack
He loves people and usually gives them a big smile, but it's a bit scary looking.



Here's a link about biting breeds
http://www.vcu.edu/paws/baddog.htm
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:11 PM
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61. The info on that link is wrong.
I am a Rottweiler owner and I am sick and tired of people being terrified of this breed. I have also owned pit bull terriers. It all has to do with the owner and the training, which would apply to any breed of dog. Rottweilers and pit bull terriers are not vicious unless the owner makes them so.
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Liberal Classic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 12:58 PM
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58. Generally speaking...
Small breed dogs tend to bite more than large dogs. Large breed dogs don't bite as often as small breed dogs, however, when they do they are more likely to cause serious injury.

Large breed dogs which are considered agressive:

Cocker Spaniel, Chow Chow, Collie, Doberman Pinscher, German Shepherd, Great Dane, Pit Bull, Rottweiler, Siberian Husky

Note that *ANY* large breed dog can be dangerous, even if they are considered a friendly breed such as Labrador or Golden. Generally, dogs which are sick, abused, or poorly socialzed have greater risk of biting.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:07 PM
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59. I own a Rottweiler and they have a bad rap,
which is not fair to this breed. Every time there is a dog attack by a Rottie or a pit bull terrier, the media jumps on it. But do you ever see any publicity about a cocker spaniel or any small breed dog when they attack someone?
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leodem Donating Member (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:07 PM
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60. Alligator vs. Pitbull
I had this arguement with a friend the other day who believes a Pitbull would destroy a medium or smaller sized alligator. I had to disagree... I've delt with gators before and can fucking tell you that a smaller/medium size gator's bite is still fucking rough.
Not only that but Pitbull's are clumsy dogs and the Alligator would probably be a lot more agile.

Know it's stupid topic, but what do you would think the result would be if these too beasts met out in the swamps of Dade County :)
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IconoclastIlene Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:15 PM
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62. Watch out for any dog that has fear aggression.
They tend to be biters.

My Mathilda nips; she is an Australian Shepherd, instinct tells her to try to herd everyone and keep them in their place.

She is a wonderful watch dog but not for folks who like lots of people over their house, nor strangers coming this way and that.

She would die for anyone in the family but she isn't at all peaceful with strangers.

Just a warning.
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