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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 02:52 PM
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Wedding gift etiquette
The guy on Marketplace (or maybe it was Sound Money) interviewed the woman from TheKnot.com on NPR today, about wedding gift etiquette. (The show was about money, so of course "etiquette" dealt with money).
She got me thinking (and pissed me off tremendously).

Among her assertions:
1. If you receive a wedding invitation, you must buy a gift.
2. If you receive a shower invitation, you must buy a gift.
3. If you receive an engagement-party invitation, you must buy a gift.
(For all three: These are required, regardless of whether you attend, and if you're invited to all three, you must buy a gift for all three, again without regard to attendance. These also are independent of whether you've spent a ton of money just to be at or stand up in the wedding.)
4. The absolute minimum you should drop on a wedding gift -- we're talking for that creepy guy in marketing who invited everyone, not your brother -- is $50; preferrably $100 if you're in New York or somewhere else expensive. The ONLY way around this is a group gift (which you are permitted to do only if your finances don't allow you to spend that $50/$100).
5. All couples prefer you get them something from their registry (instead of an "individual" gift.) If all that's left is that $300 chafing dish, and you can't afford it, well, then give cash. Cash is the only acceptable alternative to the registry, unless you know the couple really, really well.

Does this sound a tad materialistic to you? My understanding of gift etiquette is thus:
1. If you receive a wedding invitation, all you're obligated to do is wish the couple well. However, if you attend the wedding, it's a good idea to send one. If you don't attend the wedding, it's still a nice gesture. If you don't know the couple well, and it's clear they're gift fishing, feel free to ignore it or send them a nice card. (A snotty thing I might do is make a contribution in their name to the library or something.)
2. Showers are intended as gift occasions, so if you attend, you must buy a gift. It need not be extravagant.
3. Engagement parties aren't traditionally supposed to be gift-getting affairs -- but a nice small token gift (champagne, etc.) is appreciated.
4. You give what you can afford, and in some areas, dropping $50 on a virtual stranger is absurd. Homemade gifts, gifts of services (making the wedding cake, finding a babysitter for the kids at the wedding) or gifts of time can be the most appreciated.
5. Every couple is different. The registry is often there for a convenience. Most couples will appreciate a thoughtful gift that's not on the registry. Cash is cool, too.

As for me, personally -- I live in Wisconsin, which isn't a high-cash-gift state.

We usually don't give cash; our average gift is $50 worth of stuff from the registry for a work friend/second cousin type person, less for someone we don't know well (like they felt they had to invite the whole department or the entire side of the family or something), significantly more for a close friend/family (unless we've already dropped obscene amounts of money on an ugly matching dress and plane tickets, and then we do what we can afford). Someone who's quite obviously gift fishing gets a card.

If I attend the shower, I usually spend about $25-$30 (in addition to the wedding gift).

I almost always add a personal touch to a registry gift, though -- if someone registered for grill tools, I'll get those and add a Penzey's grilling spice set. Or we'll add a bottle of wine to the requested glasses, etc.

This isn't an "engagement party" area, but if we did get invited, we'd bring wine (or something appropriate and festive for a non-drinker).

So....what do you think about this Knot woman's thoughts? What are your averages? Do all of these "musts" and minimums seem way out of line, and way materialistic to you?
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Doug Decker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 02:57 PM
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1. Bullshit...
if you need some idiot to tell you how much to spend on a wedding gift, you are beyond the help of a TV show.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:06 PM
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2. I hate gifts.
Only give them if you like someone and you want to give them something to make them happy. If you feel "obliged" -- don't.

I've found that since I don't give gifts except when I want to, people only give them to me when they want to, and my house has less unwanted crap in it.

"Etiquette" never requires you to impoverish yourself -- just to be kind, polite, and a welcome guest.

Just say no to the proliferation of useless junk!!!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:11 PM
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3. That woman was there to promote TheKnot.com
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 03:17 PM by supernova
NOT espouse great etiquette.

You want to know what's really proper at weddings? Look up Letitia Baldridge (social secretary to JFK), and Amy Vanderbuilt.

Letitia especially has lots of great ideas about being a gracious socializer on a budget.

Amy is a hoot at telling you how to handle servants, but she does teach you the proper way to lay out a multi-service place setting.

edit: You want a really nice gift? Go to an antique auction and pick up real crystal and sterling silver, not the over-priced silver-plate that's available today.
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trixie Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:21 PM
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4. Cultural differences???
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 03:21 PM by trixie
We Italians find cash to be very appropriate and acceptable. It gets the couple off to a good start. There is nothing worse than having to take back gifts. Just give them money and they can use it for what they need.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:22 PM
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5. Money is always fine
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 03:23 PM by supernova
and I'm sure appreciated. My ex and I were able to buy a dinette set with the money we got. So that was nice.

I'm talking about being able to attend a wedding or give the couple a nice gift without being expected to blow your budget.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:34 PM
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6. Feh. They should've interviewed somebody from IndieBride
that's www.indiebride.com

Gifts, schmifts!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 03:47 PM
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7. showers SUCK
I could never do something that crass as selecting "gifts" for people to buy for me.
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jayavarman Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:46 PM
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8. I always give cash.
Not a check, not a gift . . . . Just the benjamins, baby.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:50 PM
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9. Cash is a cultural thang.
Us WASPS (OK, I'm a WAS) would never give cash.
I actually like the registry.
Way back in '69 (BEFORE registries) we got 6, count 'em SIX toasters.
:shrug:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:54 PM
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10. etiquette is exclusive while manners are inclusive
so anyone holding court on " the etiquette of " is little more than a pretentious blowhard

class is the ability to make those around you comfortable..and you can't do that with your nose up in the air.





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