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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:30 PM
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Imaginary Films....Movies that were almost made
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 06:31 PM by khephra
Each "movie" listed bellow was almost produced, but for one reason or another they never got off the ground. In some cases we can thank Deity or the lack of one for our luck, however, in some alternate universe these "imaginary" films are what people are watching.

Try to stick to facts and not rumors....there's no limit though. Actors in roles that they almost won is OK too. Use your imagination, but don't make up shit. Reality is often stranger than fiction as exemplified by my first example:

(NOTE: I FREAKING LLLLLOOOOVVVVVE Jodorowsky....just not this idea of his....although...I would still like to travel over to the universe next-door and check it out someday....)

JODOROWSKY'S DUNE



THE MOVIE YOU WILL NEVER SEE
by Alexandro Jodorowsky

"To show the process of illumination of a hero, then a people, then an entire planet (which in turn is the Messiah of the Universe since in abandoning its orbit, the holy planet leaves to spread its light through all the galaxies)...

I didn't want to respect the novel, I wanted to recreate it. For me, Dune didn't belong to Herbert just as Don Quixote didn't belong to Cervantes.

There is an artist, one alone among millions of others artists, who one time in his life, by a piece of divine grace, receives an immortal theme, a MYTH...I say "receive" and not "create" because works of art are received in a state of mediumness directly from the collective unconscious. The work overtakes the artist and in some way it kills him, because humanity, in receiving the impact of Myth, has a profound need to erase the individual who receives it and transmits it: his individual personality hampers, stains the purity of the message which, at the root, asks to be anonymous... We don't know who created the Notre-Dame cathedral, nor the Aztec solar calendar, nor the tarot of Marseille, nor the myth of Don Juan, etc.
One feels that Cervantes gave HIS version of Quixote--of course incomplete--and that we carry in our soul our total character... Christ didn't belong to Mark, Luke, Matthew or John... There are many more gospels called apocryphal and there are as much lives of Christ as there are believers. Everyone of us has their story of Dune, their Jessica, their Paul... I feel fervent admiration towards Herbert and at the same time conflict (I think the same thing happened to him)... He hampered me... I didn't want him as an adviser of technique... I did everything to keep him away from the project... I had received a version of Dune and I wanted to transit it: the myth had to abandon the literary form and become image...

In the film, Duke Leto (father of Paul) would be a man castrated in a ritual combat in the arenas during a bullfight. (The emblem of the Atreide house being a sacred bull...) Jessica--Bene Gesserit nun--, sent like a concubine to the duke to create a daughter who would be the mother of a Messiah, falls so much in love with Leto that she decides to blow a link in the chain and create a son, the Kwizatz Haderach, the Saviour. In using her powers of Bene Gesserit--as soon as the duke, madly in love with her, confides his sad secret--Jessica lets herself be inseminated by a drop of blood of this sterile man... The camera followed (in the script) the red drop through the ovaries of the woman and accompanied its meeting with the ovule where, by an miraculous explosion, it inseminates the egg. Paul was born of a virgin, and not by the sperm of his father but by his blood... In my version of Dune, the Emperor of the Galaxy is mad. He lives on an artificial planet of gold, in a palace of gold constructed according to the non-laws of anti-logic. He lives in symbiosis with a robot identical to him. The resemblance is so perfect that the citizens never know if they are facing the man or the machine... In my version, the spice is a blue drug of a spongy consistency filled with a vegetable-animal life endowed with consciousness, the highest level of consciousness. It doesn't stop taking all sorts of forms, shifting without cease. The spice continually reproduces the creation of innumerable universes.

Baron Harkonnen is an immense man of 300 kilograms. He is so fat and heavy that, in order to move, he needs to continually use anti gravitational bubbles attached to his extremities... His delusions of grandeur have no limit: he lives in a palace constructed as a portrait of himself... This immense sculpture stands on a sordid swampy planet...In order to enter the palace, one has to wait for the colossus to open its mouth and stick out a tongue of steel (landing strip...) At the end of the movie, the wife of Count Fenring bounds towards Paul, who has already become Fremen, and she slices his throat. Paul while dying says: "Too late, you can't kill me... because..." "Because, (continues Jessica with the voice of Paul) in order to kill the Kwizatz Haderach, you would have to kill me too..." And every Fremen, every Atreide talks now with the voice of Paul: "I am the man collective. He who shows the way."
Reality transforms rapidly. Three columns of light shoot out from the planet. They mix. Sink into the sand of the planet: "I am the Land that awaits the seed!" The spice dries up. The sun trembles. Drops of water form a pillar surrounded by fire.

Filaments of silver surge from the spice. Creating a rainbow. They merge into a cloud of water, producing a red "lava". Then vapor. Some clouds. Some rain. Some rivers. Some grass. Some forests. Dune becomes green. A blue ring now surrounds the planet. It separates. It produces more and more rings. Dune is at present an illuminated world which traverses the galaxy, that leaves it, that gives its light--which is consciousness--to all the universe. In order to conceive this final sequence of transmutation of matter, I had the chance to come in contact with some real alchemists... Some mysterious beings (one of them seemed to have more than a hundred years, an advanced age which yet permitted him to move about with the energy of a young adolescent) approached me because Dune could be a philosophical stone, the stone which changes all the other metals into gold... In this sequence, they described what really happens when they transform, in their alchemical ovens, matter... For the "guerrilla" war that Paul and the Fremen lead against the imperial army, I had the chance to contact a guerrilla expert in South America... He had fought in Bolivia, Chili, Peru and Central America... His precious information brought to the story a soldierly reality...

more................

http://www.hotweird.com/jodorowsky/dunestory.html


What's your picks?
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Langis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:35 PM
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1. Spaceballs 3
The search for 2.


I have no proof to back that up though =P.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:38 PM
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2. Here is one in production hell... and one that may still be made..
..but not with the star in the pic...

http://www.adangio.com/gallery+images/large/movie82.jpg

and a concept art piece from when Catherine Zeta Jones was up for the role of Wonder Woman.

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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:39 PM
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3. History of the World, Part Two
HITLER..................ON ICE!

JEWS...IN...SPAAAAAAAAACE!
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:40 PM
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4. Elvis in "The Rainmaker," "Thunder Road," "A Star Is Born," "Westside
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 06:41 PM by ForrestGump
Story, and Your Cheating Heart (1964 biopic). Also his 1974 never-completed documentary on martial arts and a film called Billy Easter, in which he would have played a retired CIA agent avenging a friend's death (since the plot of about 10000 films, most starring Chuck Norris), that he was working on writing on and off over his last few years.

He was offered the other roles but Colonel Parker turned them down. Closest he got was doing a scene from The Rainmaker (Earl Holliman's part) for one of his 1956 screen tests.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:41 PM
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5. Lord of the Rings starring The Beatles
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 06:42 PM by Taverner
This movie almost got made - thank God it didn't

Ringo was to play Frodo, George to play Gandalf, John as Gollum and Paul as Aragorn...

From Wikipedia: "There were plans for the Beatles to do a version of The Lord of the Rings but they came to nothing. It was even said that Stanley Kubrick had looked into the possibility of filming the trilogy, but he abandoned the idea as too "immense" to be made into a movie. In the mid-1970s, renowned film director John Boorman collaborated with film rights holder and producer Saul Zaentz to do a live action picture, but the project proved too expensive to finance at that time."
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:42 PM
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6. Wasn't that "Magical Mystery Tour"?
:D

Who can tell...
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 07:42 AM
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34. "The Jungle Book" - with music by The Beatles
Disney pitched this weird idea to their manager, Brian Epstein.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:43 PM
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7. more...........
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 06:47 PM by khephra
snip.............

With the Jacobs project lapsed, the focus switched to France and what was certainly the most bizarre attempt to film Dune. The character behind this project was one Alexandro Jodorowsky, a Chilean film maker with a serious reputation for pushing the envelope. The Dune he intended to make bore little relationship to the novel, and it is said that Jodorowsky spent considerable energy keeping a skeptical Frank Herbert at arms length. However, though his vision would have been unique and quite likely offensive to many Dune fans, the fact is that it would have looked incredible. Jodorowsky scoured the world for the best creative talents, bringing in Dan O'Bannon (Alien) to work on the effects and enticing Pink Floyd to work on the soundtrack. Most amazingly, he and the French comic book artist Jean "Mobius" Giraud created a one thousand page story board that remains as an utterly enticing taste of what might have been.

(pictures)

http://www.jd.gosling.btinternet.co.uk/dune.htm

Giger was also involved, as was Dali.

It wouldn't have been Dune, but damn it would have been interesting.

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tandot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:48 PM
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8. "The Great Communicationer" starring: George W. Bush
We are still working on it...as soon as Dubya finishes reading the script...but we are confident...it took him only 6 month to read the first page...
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 06:48 PM
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9. David Lynch's
"Return of the Jedi"

Visionary David Lynch's massive epic based on the biggest selling sci-fi novel of all time, Frank Herbert's Dune, features some of the most spectacular sets ever built and special effects by triple-Oscar winner Carlo Rambaldi (E.T.). Lynch turned down an offer to direct Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi to helm this mammoth $40 million project, one of the biggest production budgets at the time.

http://www.lynchnet.com/
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:18 PM
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11. ...with Dennis Hopper as the Emperor!
:D
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 08:34 PM
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22. How about Robert Englund as Luke Skywalker?
or Sissy Spacek as Princess Leia?
or Christopher Walken as Han Solo?

"What the Falcon needs, Chewie, is MORE COWBELL!"
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:17 PM
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10. Which movies that were offered to Cronenberg were turned down by him?
Which movies that were offered to Cronenberg were turned down by him?
Return of the Jedi (1983), Flashdance (1983), Beverly Hills Cop (1984) (with Sylvester Stallone in the lead), Witness (1985), Top Gun (1986), Total Recall (1990) (12 drafts written by Cronenberg), The Firm (1993), The Juror (1996), Basic Instinct 2.

http://plasmapool.esmartweb.com/faq/index.html
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:21 PM
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12. Star Trek : The Motion Picture by John Carpenter

While reading thru some ancient old magazines recently, I discovered that Carpenter was offered STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE back in the day...but then, I don't think there was a director in Hollywood at the time that wasn't. - Chris

http://www.geocities.com/j_nada/carp/projects.html#startrek
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:23 PM
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13. "Elric of Melniboné" and "Ringworld".......................
The studios have offered the film rights to both. Sadly, I fear neither will see the light of day.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:26 PM
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14. I still think Elric would work
Edited on Sat Jun-12-04 07:27 PM by khephra
Herc and Zena brought a lot of non-fantasy into the fold pf loving the genre. I think a well made Shakespearean dark fantasy could find a market these days. Hell, how many times did Zena die? ;-)
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 08:02 PM
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20. Like i said...........
supposed to happen, probably won't.

And besides, there's NO WAY they can make it as creepy as Moorcock's books. Dr. Jest would be the first character they'd tone down - far too twisted.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:29 PM
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16. The major problem with Ringworld
Is that the ending isn't very cinematic...additionally, too many "secrets" are unknown at the end of the first book.

My choice would be to do a Known Space Mini. Establish the background and then do a Ringworld series with each season based on one of the books.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:52 PM
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18. It does seem more like a Sci-Fi channel....
original production. I like the "Known Space" miniseries idea. They could do "Neutron Star" to introduce the Puppeteers, "A World of Ptaavs" to go into the Slaver stuff, and wind it up with a "Ringworld" movie that would have to combine the original and "Engineers" so they could cover the Pak. Come to think of it, "Protector" would be a cool movie unto itself.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:21 PM
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24. I thought Elric was in production somewhere
I seem to remember someone e-mailing me about that one.
:shrug:
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:27 PM
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15. The Exorcist of Oz
Best I could think of on the sperm of the moment! :shrug:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:36 PM
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17. Buckarro Banzai vs. The World Crime League
I would love to see this, but alas, no movie so far...

http://www.figmentfly.com/bb/q12.html
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 07:59 PM
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19. Dan Simmons' "Hyperion"..................
Sort of like "The Canterbury Tales" in space, only with a huge, red-eyed, blade-covered creepo that turns up in all the stories the travellers tell.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 08:21 PM
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21. "Homer's Daughter" starring Ingrid Bergman
The Robert Graves novel tells about the princess of a Greek colony in the Western Mediterranean, about a generation after tales of the Trojan war were compiled into The Iliad. Will she save her family from the "suitors" who have descended upon the household in an attempt to overthrow them? Will the handsome shipwrecked stranger help? Will she compose the next "chapter" of the Troy story? (Classical scholars have long noted differences between the Iliad & the Odyssey--& even postulated that a woman wrote the latter.)

It's an excellent book & Ingrid Bergman wanted to make the movie while she was exiled from Hollywood for her affair with Rosselini. But Hollywood forgave her & the movie was never made.


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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:19 PM
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23. Jeff Smith's "Bone"
He had a contract with Paramount, but he didn't like their script. Several others have tried to buy the rights, but he just doesn't want to get caught up in the Hollywood thing again. Myself and other friends have offered our help, but no deal *sigh*

I've worked on several other "greenlighted" films that never made it to the screen. In some cases, that was a good thing!

Who here has seen "Lost in La Mancha"; a great documentary that shows exactly how promising productions sometimes fail utterly.
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No2W2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:24 PM
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25. The day the Clown Cried

Starring Jerry Lewis as a German clown who makes the children laugh all the way to the gas chamber.

Wasn't made becasue of Lewis's huge ego problems and everyone else's good sense.

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skrunch Donating Member (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 12:40 AM
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27. Unbelieveably...this was made
Edited on Sun Jun-13-04 12:43 AM by skrunch
I remember Harry Shearer happened to see it and wrote about it in Spy magazine.

It's also listed in Lewis' IMDB filmography
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068451/

Shooting began in Stockholm, but producer Nat Wachsberger not only ran out of money to complete the film, but failed to pay Joan O'Brien for the rights to the story. Jerry Lewis was forced to finish the picture with his own money. The film has been tied up in litigation ever since, and all of the parties involved have never been able to reach an agreeable settlement. Lewis refuses to discuss the making of this film in any form.
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darkstar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-04 09:36 PM
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26. Klaus Kinski was almost the Nazi bad guy in Raiders of the Lost Ark,
I think.

And then there was Dean Stockwell's "After the Goldrush." God how I wish that hippie dream had been made!
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:00 AM
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28. Coen Bros. Adaptation of James Dickey's "To The White Sea"...
with Brad Pitt in the lead. Was in pre-production a few years ago, but haven't heard a word since.

Brian DePalma was trying to make a feature film of the "Strike" section of "Last Exit To Brooklyn" back in the 70s. Couldn't have been any worse than the subsequent film.

Bob Guccione planned to follow up "Caligula" with a hardcore version of "The Decameron" Alas...
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:06 AM
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29. "Apocalypse Now" with Jack Nicholson as Kurtz and Harvey Keitel as
Willard.
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Bryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:38 AM
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30. "King Conan: Crown of Iron"
A great unproduced script, this thing would've been a hoot. God, if only we could keep Milius and Schwarzenegger tied up doing Conan movies instead of laying waste to civilization...
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 01:51 AM
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31. A.I.
I never felt so ripped other than after seeing that "movie".
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 04:27 AM
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33. exactly, Spielberg's sentimentalism was galling
Kubrick~~!!!
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 07:49 AM
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35. I actually liked AI
Edited on Sun Jun-13-04 07:51 AM by RatTerrier
A bit sappy in parts, but that seemed to make the movie even creepier. A kubrick version may have been up there with 2001, but most likely, we would have gotten a sci-fi "Eyes Wide Shut".

Don't knock Spielberg. He's been on a roll as of late. "Minority Report" was kick-ass, as was "Catch Me If You Can", which, by the way, took over twenty years to make.

Interesting story about "Catch Me...". It passed around Hollywood forever and had many people attatched to it. At one point, James Gandolfini (aka Tony Soprano) was to play the Tom Hanks role. Lasse Hallstrom was the director connected to it at this point.

The book, which I had read over 10 years ago, was a riot. A movie adaptation of a good book will never be as good, but for a film adaptation, the movie wasn't bad.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-13-04 02:28 AM
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32. "Batman" with Bill Murray and William Shatner as The Joker
That casting would have been campier than Adam West's TV Series!
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