Apparently I am invisible...

[VelmaD]

or at least so easily ignored that it amounts to the same thing. I hate days like this. *sigh*

[GOPisEvil]

1. Who could ignore you?

Lord know I've tried, with very little success. :evilgrin:

[VelmaD]

17. You'd be amazed

And you have only yourself to blame after you moved to the new house KNOWING it was closer to where I live. :P

[commander bunnypants]

2. have a beer I am paying

DDQM

[VelmaD]

11. WOOHOO!!!

I knew I whined for a reason. :beer:

[ScreamingMeemie]

3. Hi Velma!!! How are you??

You look gorgeous today. :hi:

[VelmaD]

13. Thanks Mrs. G

*big smooches*

[m-jean03]

4. I had a day like that yesterday on the boards

It must have been my e-pheromones were unpleasing. :D :shrug:

Or are you talking real life? I hear there is something they call real life. :shrug:

[VelmaD]

20. A little of both

Partly DU but mostly real life. I really wanta go home, pull the covers over my head, and see if things are better when I come out tomorrow.

[m-jean03]

64. Hey, you smell good to me.

:D People are just self-absorbed.

[Bluebear]

5. Hey GOPisEvil! DemMan! Mrs. Grumpy! What's up!

:)

[commander bunnypants]

6. mmmmmmm

pastic turkey.

DDQM

[Susang]

7. First you kill & cook their pet bunny rabbit....

Then you kidnap the kids and take them to the amusement park for the day. Works for me. I am never ignored! :evilgrin:

[LowerManhattanite]

8. "The V, the E, the L, the M, the A,--the V, the E, the L...

...it's Velmaaaaa! It's Velmaaaaaaa!

[HereSince1628]

9. Hey, do you know the name of the person who sells you celery??????

Invisiblility is the fate of a HUGE number of underemployed.

Being ignored on DU is just par for the course.

[VelmaD]

10. Oh, I meant real life

Being ignored on DU isn't the end of the world.

[ScreamingMeemie]

15. It's not?? IT'S NOT??????

Fine then...I'm putting you on ignore. ;) ;) ;)

Screw the real world!

[HereSince1628]

21. Well, some people are treated like s** t EVERY MINUTE of the day

And I'll ask you again do you know the name of the person who stocks the grocery shelves you visit?

Probably not. THOSE ARE THE INVISIBLE PEOPLE. You just feel ignored, welcome to the club.

[VelmaD]

24. Ya know what, fine...

I don't know his name, but I do smile and say hi when I see him (or the other stockers) in the grocery store.

Thanks ever so for trying to help me feel better when I'm having a bad day. Especially given that you have NO idea what I'm going through today.

[HereSince1628]

26. Hey, I AM the guy that puts celery in your God damned reach!!!!

Thanks a whole f***ing lot. I'm sure YOUR day was worse than MINE.

[VelmaD]

28. Don't yell at me...

I freakin' smiled at you and told you to have a nice day yesterday when I went grocery shopping. Yell at the idiot behind me whose kids just tried to run you over with the cart.

P.S. I don't even like celery.

[HereSince1628]

29. Frankly, you seem to have no idea what it means to be invisible.

As one of the truly invisible, I am sure your smile made YOU feel better...

The American workplace is FULL of people who are discounted. People may be just down on their luck, may be struggling back from various problems (medical or legal), may lack capacity due to illness or birth, etc.

The VAST majority of my customers are too embarrassed or too "good" to even acknowledge orally a "Good Morning." Do wee deserve to be invisible? HELL NO! People like me bust their butt for you at minimum wage in thankless jobs. And for most people they are "in the way."

[VelmaD]

32. You know you make a lot of assumptions...

about me for someone who doesn't even know me.

I've worked one of those thankless minimum wage jobs. I've worked as a social worker with organizations trying to help people up and out of the kind of life situation you're talking about. I work now with the most difficult youth in the State of Texas trying to make sure they get rehabilitated so that they don't spend their whole lives being invisible. But you didn't bother to find any of that out before you started preaching at me.

[HereSince1628]

34. Then you know being ignored on DU is NOTHING

And frankly you needed to be reminded.

[VelmaD]

36. One more time...

I wasn't talking about being ignored on DU. I was talking, for the most part, about my real life.

[HereSince1628]

39. Come back with the name of the person who stocks your celery

and THEN I will know you care about invisibility.

And then there are the folks who drive the garbage truck that carries off the refuse of your life.

And there are many, many whose lives and contributions to the lives of others are invisible.

They ARE people. They ARE ignored. Their lives cry out for validation, too.

Sorry, but as you may have realized, my idealism exceeds the bonds of my current station.

Not getting a response on DU is VERY trivial compared to suffering with the misery inflicted upon the people who make possible the easy existance of society.

[VelmaD]

41. Are you even reading...

my replies before you respond? I am (repeated yet again) not whining because I did not get a response on DU. I am upset because of things going on in my personal life that have left me feeling invisible to even my closest friends. I don't expect the rest of the world to see me...frankly in our modern society I think pretty much everyone is invisible and that's a sad thing. We don't see or respond to one another and that has made us all worse human beings.

[HereSince1628]

42. Yes, I am reading your responses

Who is stocking YOUR celery? Feel free to PM me in the next week. I realize that many people shop only once a week.

[Shakespeare]

43. No, your idealism exceeds the bounds of good manners.

And your idealism doesn't get to presume to tell somebody when they should or shouldn't have a bad day. Lay the hell off.

[HereSince1628]

45. W hat can I say in the lair of liberalism???????

Screw the REALLY invisible people and feel bad for those who have had a bad day????? Got that message.

[Shakespeare]

47. Wow, you really don't get it.

Yes, people everywhere are exploited. Yes, somewhere out there is at least one person who has it worse than you do.

How-fucking-ever: that in no way invalidates one person's feelings of sadness or despair. Her experience is her own, and her feelings are genuine, and no amount of jackass badgering from you is going to discount that.

[HereSince1628]

49. NO YOU DON'T GET IT

People with various physical and mental limitations stuggle every day. They do so COMPLETELY in-F-ing-visible.

I absolutely HATE this. I am completely at a loss and sorry for a person who has NO CAPACITY to place their life against a pole which measures personal misery.

God save us from psuedoliberals.

[Shakespeare]

50. So you're suggesting that no one here is allowed to be sad?

You need help. Badly.

YOU have a stunning inability to empathize, but, ironically, you don't realize it.

[HereSince1628]

51. Your right, I am pissed that people in GOOD circumstances feel bad

They have NO idea how bad existance can be.

Access to a computer, ability to run a program, are outside the reach of MANY of the poor sods whose sweat greases the machinery of our culture.

AM I PISSED???? ABSO--F***ING--LUTELY.

Bad day? What about BAD LIFE????????????????????????????

[Shakespeare]

53. Your personal attack on Velma is one of the most bizarre things I've seen

..here at DU. And I've seen some weird fucking arguments here.

The woman's having a bad day. No amount of moralizing from you changes that or invalidates her feelings, nor should it.

You're engaged in the (completely unsound) "eat your broccoli because there are children starving in India" argument.

Very, very bizarre. The milk of human kindness just oozes from your posts (not). I'm sure Velma has found your comments oh so constructive.

[VelmaD]

54. You must have amazing psychic powers...

to know what my circumstances are.

And people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones...I notice that you have access to a computer.

[HereSince1628]

60. No, priviledged people should realize they are priviledged people should

recognize it.

With respect to my access, I go to a public library. Educated but not remunerated.

[Shakespeare]

61. Here's a hypothetical question for you.

In your world, what is the benchmark for being allowed to have a bad day? How, precisely, do you measure this? Is it by income, by address, by ethnicity? I'm a little unclear--you have this vague, overly broad outrage you're directing at Velma for daring to have a bad day.

So, do tell--since you feel so strongly about this, who gets to have a bad day, and better yet, who gets to decide the criteria for that?

edited to remind you: You have NO IDEA what Velma's situation is. You're basically talking out of your ass when you attack her, but I'm still curious what your criteria are for judging another human being on when they're permitted to feel bad.

[HereSince1628]

67. BUCK IT UP!!

I've seen the picture of Iraqi kids with thier brains blown out resulting in their scalp looking like a deflated balloon.

Is this a matter of cultural relativism? Well, sure as shit.

SO, a Duer might have had a bad day. Well, welcome to the real world, in which half the world has a day worse than the other half.

I give a shit about Velma's day. I know that hundreds of thousands of TRULY invisible people had just as bad or worse days as she/he did.

THAT, by God, is the problem of the liberal class. How do you feel bad for a person's stubbed toe while a broken leg is ignored????

[Shakespeare]

68. oops, you left yourself wide open

How do you feel bad for a person's stubbed toe while a broken leg is ignored????

Because they both feel pain.

You are in no position to judge another person's inner pain, and the fact that you still don't get that is pathetic. Gorge-inducingly pathetic.

[HereSince1628]

70. By the measure of the insult ...n/t

[VelmaD]

52. No, you don't get it...

I have been holding back so far on this thread trying to be a nice person and I am probably going to fall down on that with this post.

You know NOTHING about me. I don't owe you an explanation of what I do on behalf of the "invisible". I do everything I can to help within my means, even if it's just little things like holding a door or smiling or saying good morning to people that other people don't see. But no listing of what I have done or do is going to make you happy. You've already made up your mind.

You also know NOTHING about what I'm going through right now and I don't owe you an explanation about that either.

What you need to grasp is that empathy is not a finite resource. There is no reason that I can't have empathy for the "invisible" people we've been talking about and still have some left for people who are a little bit better off financially or physically but are having a hard time of it emotionally. That's what I came here for today. I have people who care about me here in the Lounge and I hoped I could bring my unhappiness here and get a little bit of understanding. Understanding or course being one of those hallmarks of being a liberal.

Frankly I'm at a loss for why you even bothered to reply to this thread. No one held a gun to your head and made you be obnoxious to someone who was already having a bad day.

[Shakespeare]

55. Velma, the guy needs to get a grip.

This is a sterling example of "there's one in every crowd."

:hug:

Things to (maybe) make you feel a little better:

F9/11's record box office take.
Chicken fried steak.
Lyle Lovett and Willie Nelson are still alive and making music.

That's a really lame attempt to make you smile, but I hope it helps.

[HereSince1628]

57. Don't put yourself IN FRONT of the TRULY needy

You had a bad day, maybe a bad week, but the fact is you DON'T appear to have a bad life.

Hey, you reached the bottom of the barrel. Well, next pay check will fix that. But you have friends here in the lounge and you can bring your discomfort here.

Sorry, this ain't Cheers. The truly invisible are the real victims of this sort of politically correct crap. Come here, looking for support, GREAT, and then completely ignore the suffering of those whose lives are subordinated to yours.

OK, I sound like a socialist... BUT

Please PM me with the names of the people that stock your celery.

THEY ARE PEOPLE, TOO.

In a relativistic existence I find it exceedingly difficult to feel sorry for people who can buys cars, own homes and worry about retirement.

There are literally hundreds of thousands (millions????) of Americans whose invisible lives are leading them to absolutely nothing but early burials.

Have a BAD day, but think about what it means to have a BAD LIFE!!!

[Shakespeare]

58. Would you get over yourself already and stop pissing on Velma?

Good lord. Your attacks are lacking any sense of proportion. Just leave her alone.

[HereSince1628]

59. Yeah, poor Velma, forget the 100's of thousands. I GET IT. NT

[HereSince1628]

63. Actually, one quasi known personality is worth 100,000 invisible

people. And that is the sorry ass truth.

Not to demean YOUR liberalism, but do you know the first and last name of your Produce clerk?

PM me with their names.

I will attempt to build a website that acknowledges their effort to contribute to life in America.

[Shakespeare]

66. I don't have to PM you with ANYTHING.

Who the fuck are you to preach to me? And why the multiple responses to my single response? Feeling a bit obsessive?

My produce clerk is Josh, and happens to be a union employee with better benefits than I have at MY job. What on earth that has to do with anything is beyond me. It does, however, demonstrate how utterly idiotic your demands are. What does one's produce clerk have to do with anything?

Your touchstone for misery--the lowly produce clerk--is asinine. I think the person you really claim to be championing is more likely the migrant farmworker, who far too few people have any contact with whatsoever.

I am a donor to (and have protested with) the UFW, so just leave it alone already. My bona fides as a liberal are quite safe from your austere scrutiny. :eyes:

And for anybody who wants to know what the farmworker contributes--and these are couple of things you seem utterly unaware of, so maybe we should talk about YOUR liberal credentials--look for a documentary called Justice on the Table, and try to catch the current theatrical release, A Day Without a Mexican.

Yeah, I know what you're talking about--better than you apparently do.

**by the way, your bizarre rant still in no way undermines or has anything to do with the fact that Velma is having a lousy day, which is not improving with any help from you, the paragon of compassion.

[HereSince1628]

69. Thanks, but still waitin for VelmaD.

What more can I say?

Yes, protect your "group member." That is completely within accepted sociological theory.

My point is that literally millions of Americans have NO IDEA of the name of the person who puts their celery on a shelf to be purchased.

That would be OK, except that some DUers think that their life's probelms deserve the attention of an international audience.

The facts reamain unchanged. One Duer with a life problem trumps the existance of hundreds of thousands if not millions.

Sad so very, very, sad.

Attack me as you desire, but measure yourself: Do you know the name of the person who places celery on the shelf that you purchase?

THESE people are among the invisible people. Like garbage collectors and the people who collect shopping carts from parking lots.

What do we owe those people?

[rasputin1952]

71. We owe them nothing but our gratitude and thanks...

just as we should treat everyone as we would like to be treated. There is no "owing" in the equation. They deserve precisely the same amount of respect that everyone deserves.

I go through life trying to respect those I meet. Most I do, some, I do not, if they earned anything, they earned my disrespect.

I know the guy who puts the celery on my local store's shelves, his name is Ted. Louisa checked me out at the checkout stand, and Frank helped me out to the car and helped put the stuff in the trunk.

Say what you will...but you cannot "earn" respect, you can only "earn" disrespect; usually by treating people like trash.

[HereSince1628]

74. Well, almost. anyway...

I'm glad, sort of, that you can provide a first name to someone who labors to facilitate your life. And I am glad that you know the name of the woman who checks you out after you have shopped.

I am NOT treating people like trash. I am asking DUers to look at their lives compared to the mostly "invisible" lives of the people whom they seem to take for granted.

People who, like Robert, an employee of my store but with a congenital spinal deformity, try their best to beb an independent person, or like Gloria, a wonderfully caring and intellectual person with a "hare lip" but whom must suffer humiliation because of "circumstances" with which they are seen as "other people."

I am tired of life stories from people who have absolutely NO IDEA of what a tough life really entails.

Without this awareness, the Democratic party CANNOT address the needs of the people it claims to represent.

[VelmaD]

76. You still don't get it...

you're making the big assumptions AGAIN about me and about the people I know and the life I've led. I don't feel like comparing stories with you to see who knows the person who has had the roughest life. You haven't heard my "life story" and frankly you are't going to because I don't need to justify myself to you or anyone else. I can tell stories of clients and friends who have it as bad or worse than the people you talked about in your posts but that isn't the point.

What I think I resent the most though, is the implication that I somehow see the people you are talking about as "other" when that couldn't be further from the truth. But you won't ever know that because you won't know me...because you don't want to. You've already decided who you think I am. If painting everyone else as somehow less liberal than you is what you need to make yourself feel better you just go right on ahead.

[jukes]

85. well, velma

asscrack sure showed his liberalism & humanity. "care about the bleeding crowd; how about a needy friend?"


& WTF is up w/that elitist, plymouth-rock nick?


hey, 1628! MY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE TEN THOUSAND YEARS. and we kept your poor, whipped asses alive. quit being a pretentious, picaresque prick. back off the windmills a tick, & lend a hand to a fellow traveler.


Velma, you & i haven't exchanged much, but we all love you here, no shit.

:grouphug:

[VelmaD]

86. I LOVE aliteration...

"pretentious, picaresque prick"...*snort* :)

Thanks. :hug:

[rasputin1952]

78. Thank you for taking the time to answer my post...

and I am posting strictly as a member of DU, nothing more.

I did not accuse you of treating people like trash, although, I can see how that insinuation could be made.

I have spent my entire life trying to help those that are constantly being trampled upon. This includes people w/physical or emotional handicaps. I have worked closely, as I spent many a year in the Medical field, with individuals that have debilitating situations.

My point is, compassion for all should be our prime concern. If someone can work with physical impairments, I am more than willing to give it a go. In fact, I'd hire someone like that over someone else perhaps. My main concerns would be, 1. Not to exacerbate the impairment...2. If they were qualified for the position.

I truly believe, that holding out a hand, or offering a warm cup of coffee on a cold winter's day, does much more than all of the oratory we can come up with. It is the human touch, that separates us from the other species we share the planet with. Our capacity to feel when others are rundown, and our tenacity to help when and where we can, gives us our humanity.

For those in the store you work at, I commend the owner/manager for his/her foresight. As for your comments, I would like to extend my thoughts that you are absolutely correct in your bringing these societal problems into the light. You might want to start a thread of your own, I'd participate!

:)

[Shakespeare]

72. I'm not the one attacking--YOU are.

"some DUers think that their life's probelms deserve the attention of an international audience."

Uh, no--Velma posted this here where she has a small circle of FRIENDS. Something I presume you know nothing about.

You've already demonstrated your utter lack of sensitivity, all rants to the contrary notwithstanding.

Nowhere in her post did she suggest she's more important than anyone else, and that you attempted to twist this into some sort of bizarre Velma v. the exploited class just defies logic (and kindness).

And if you'd bothered actually reading my post, you might have the answer to some of your other (ridiculous) questions.

[VelmaD]

73. I'm confused about what exactly you're waiting...

on me for. Sorry I had to get home from work and couldn't devote myself entirely to replying to your little diatribes against me.

I really don't have much to say to you at this point after reading what you got up to while I was gone. You aren't a very nice person and if people treat you with disrespect I can only imagine it's because you are as obnoxious to them as you have been to me. I have been asked if I would like to have this thread locked or your posts removed and frankly I'm inclined to leave it all up as a monument to your lack of consideration for your fellow human beings. I want everyone to see exactly who and what you are.

Let's clear some things up. Nowhere in my post did I either state or imply that I was somehow MORE important than any other human being. But to go along with that I am also not LESS important than anyone else. If anyone is treating others as somehow less than worthy today it has been you. You made assumptions about me with no data and then decided that I am somehow less liberal and less worthy of regard and kindness than others. That says more about you than it does about me.

You might want to consider this the next time you decide to go off on someone...would you like to be treated the way you have treated me today? That's the measure I use on my behavior. You might try it sometime.

[HereSince1628]

75. But can you name the people that make your celery available to you?

We ALL feel sorry for ourselves.

But some people are REALLY in positions for which we should feel sorry for them.

Having a tough day or week is, well, TOUGH!

The problem is that millions, yes, tens of millions of Americans have tough days. Many of these people aren't shown on the unemployment lists because they have exceeded their eligibility. Yeah, Well... great YOU aren't one of these....

You can beat me up, but I am rapidly becoming less and less sympathetic to people who have a bad day.

There are quite literally millions of Americans who have had a bad month, maybe millions who have had a bad quarter, and probably 10's of millions who have had bad months...

[VelmaD]

77. This is it

"Having a tough day or week is, well, TOUGH!" - My my my, that attitude sounds an awful lot like what one would hear from our oposition.

Do you honestly think you're telling anyone on this thread anything they don't already know? Do you think I don't know about the millions of unemployed or underemployed in this country and around the world. I'm a goddamn social worker for pete's sake. I'll say it again...I AM A SOCIAL WORKER. I work for the youth prison system in Texas...I know just exactly how fucking bad someone's life can be.

GROW THE FUCK UP AND GET OVER YOURSELF

I am done now. I am going out jogging to clear out my brain. Do whatever the hell you want with this thread. I still think it might do you some good to contemplate WHY you felt the need to behave the way you have today to a complete stranger that you know NOTHING about.

[HereSince1628]

79. I have meditated on my threads....

I feel that the social worker is LESS important than the clients.
I feel that those who labor unseen still contribute....

I feel that those who suffer at the hand of corporate oppression deserve to have their stories heard, and as needed acted upon.

I feel that DU is an international forum, as such the concerns of persons with bad days are subordinate to egalitarian goals in general.

Enjoy your run. I need to protect hundreds of thousands or millions from solipsism.

THAT is TOUGH love.

[VelmaD]

81. Jeezus H Christ...you couldn't be half that funny if you tried

First off, it must feel really good up there on your moral high horse. Does it make you feel big to think you get to decide who is more and less important? :eyes: Frankly, that kind of thinking, believing that some people are more or less worthy, is what I'd expect from the most whacked out fundamentalist nutjob. It's the beginning of treating people like things. Shame on you. No human being is more or less important than any other.

Then again, as quickly as you managed to "meditate" you're obviously way too spiritually advanced for this place and we should all bow to your judgement on who is and is not important.

If you don't want to hear people's personal concerns...what the FUCK are you doing in the Lounge? More importantly, if you are so busy saving the world...what the FUCK are you doing in the Lounge? *sheesh*

Enjoy your moral purity. :hi:

[latebloomer]

84. So because most of the world is worse off than we are

we are never allowed to utter a word of complaint, or gripe to our buddies about our crappy day?

You NEVER indulge in such catharsis? I find that difficult to believe.

[jukes]

89. i got your tough love right here, 1628!

meditate on your celery up your ass, you frustrated and aggressive vegetable-pimp.


MODS: delete me if i've stepped over on personal attacks, but this dickweed needs to lighten up in the lounge. if he wants to preach, there are fundies willing to listen to ANY rhetorical rant, long as it's filled w/hate & spite.

hi, Velma! hope you're having a better 1 today! :hi:

[VelmaD]

90. I'm doing some better today...

one of the things that was bringing me down turned out to be a big misunderstanding and I think it's all cleared up now. :)

[jukes]

97. that's cool, VD

:pals:

[WilliamPitt]

91. "I need to protect hundreds of thousands or millions from solipsism"

By posting on DU in a Lounge thread? By trashing out someone who was feeling badly?

What a fucking hero you are.

:puke:

[VelmaD]

92. Thanks Will

:hug:

[Misunderestimator]

93. ROFL You need to protect hundreds of thousands or millions from solipsism?

LOL... Oh man... I didn't realize that we were all supposed to buck up and give up all our wordly possessions and give up running or bicycling or hell, even eating... so that we can ALSO devote ourselves to battling solipsism. Yes, that's the high-minded goal we all need... THERE IS NO SELF AT ALL! Why didn't I figure this out before...? I've always felt so guilty when I get sad over a death in the family or some such trivial thing, when there are so many less fortunate people than myself. I will never be depressed again!! Thanks! Brilliant. ugh

By the way.... how exactly is it that you are winning the hearts and minds of hundred of thousands or millions of selfish people? Just curious.

[WilliamPitt]

96. I don't know about you, but *I* am a fifth-level Vegan

I only eat food that doesn't cast a shadow.

I say fuck the celery guy. You seen the shadows that stuff casts? Earth killer!!

[VelmaD]

98. You owe the State of Texas a new keyboard

*snort*

[Misunderestimator]

99. ROFL.... What a vivid picture I have in my head now...

of the looming shadow of a crazed celery stalk... Scary...

[TOhioLiberal]

82. Geez...

Who pee'd in this person's oatmeal?

Sorry Velma :hug: some people are just...well you know.

[Skittles]

12. I WILL COME OVER AND KICK YOUR ASS

THAT WILL PROVE YOU ARE NOT INVISIBLE.

[VelmaD]

14. I still think I could take ya

Just let GOPisEvil know a date and time so he can get the vat of jello ready. :evilgrin:

[Skittles]

18. LOL

:thumbsup:

[tigereye]

87. cripe what was that about?

what a load of crap! I really dislike some people's ability to make everything into some bizarre moral argument and forget to be compassionate in the short run! Sheesh.

Hope your day improved, Velma. :)

[Speck Tater]

16. Do you suffer from HSII?

Human Spontaneous Involuntary Invisibility.

http://members.aol.com/Rapunz1/invisibility.html

[VelmaD]

19. Wow

I feel better knowing I'm not alone. :)

[Raven]

22. Who's VelmaD????

:-)

[VelmaD]

25. Some chick or other

:P

[prolesunited]

23. Who IRL would you like to be visible to?

Some days soooo many people seem to see me, I try to hide in my office wishing I were invisible. Sometimes not being noticed can be a good thing.

[VelmaD]

27. Somehow no matter how invisible I am...

to the people I wish would see me...my boss always manages to spot me. x(

[SarahB]

30. Maybe there's something going on with the other person (or people).

Sometimes we all get stressed and need time just to be by ourselves. Perhaps that is what's going on with the other person (or people). Just step back for a moment and realize that what's going on with your friend(s) may not have anything to do with you personally, but other stuff in their own life (or lives). I know how that feels and sometimes it's hard, but try not to worry too much or necessarily take it personally. :D

[VelmaD]

33. It just hits a huge button for me...

long story. I'd blame my evil ex but frankly he just exaccerbated something that was already there.

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

31. VelmaD, but I LOVE YOU

:D

[VelmaD]

35. You know...

it's kids like you and leftist_rebel and JohnKleeb that have made me re-evaluate my long-held opinion that teenagers should be locked in a closet until they turn 21. :)

Thanks Maggie. :hug:

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

37. I'm not a kid though

Anyone over 16 is not a kid :D

[VelmaD]

38. Hell, I'm 33...

and my momma still refers to me and my friends as kids. :)

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

40. we're all kids

just like we're all WillPitt.
;)

[JohnKleeb]

83. aww really?

much appreciated.

[WoodrowFan]

44. try posting a 911 thread with anti-jewish links

that seems to get attention in the GD today!

[Insider]

46. Dear VelmaD

how are you? hope all is well with you & yours.

the weather was nice today here in maryland. if you like house music, there is a great website for live deejays (www.handzonradio.com). listening now. people chime in the chat from around the world.

i am moving to okinawa, japan to work for two years. prep is a pain, but i'm sure it will be fun & exciting.

have you seen fahrenheit 9/11 yet? what did you think?

enough for now. more soon. take good care.

evelyn

ps - nice shoes. where'd you get those? do they have them in size 11? ;)

[VelmaD]

48. The weather here has been weird...

like it can't quit emake up it's mind what it wants to do.

Okinawa sounds really neat.

I saw F911 with GOPisEvil and bearfan on Saturday and I LOVED it. Gotta go see it again soon.

I don't know about the shoes but I'll ask my best friend if she's seen them in an 11...she wears that size too.

P.S. Thanks. :hug:

[bubblesby2002]

56. Hey Velma D......

Come on up to Victoria - it's not really that far - and have a beer with me. Camero is leaving tomorrow so I could use some good company. We've never spoken much, but I always love your posts.

[Jackhammer Jesus]

62. Bad day? You had a bad day???!

OH YEAH? YOU WANNA FIGHT?!

Oops, sorry. I was going to offer my condolences, but got a little side-tracked while I was reading the thread...

[eyesroll]

65. Ouch

I've been there; I know it sucks.
:hug:

Are you a Buffy fan? If you are -- or if you're not (they're easily rented), check out the 6th season episode, "Gone." Buffy goes invisible. It's got one of the more amusing sex scenes I've seen on TV. It cheers me up.

[gpandas]

80. i don't know you, velma...

but i admire your restraint in dealing with this fired-up person. i chose "fired-up"to be gentle.

[DS1]

88. Tell me about it, some days I just feel like I'm talking to myself

I hope you have better luck

:hug:

[Misunderestimator]

94. But apparently you are also inspiring....

in bringing out the cockroaches from the woodwork. Had to go back and read your original post... and no...nothing there between the lines. Unfreakingbelievable. Hope your day is a lot better today! :)

[VelmaD]

95. It's getting better

And I have to say, having so many people jump to my defense hasn't hurt one bit. :)

[bushisanidiot]

100. Not to laugh at your pain (because I've been feeling the same

way lately), but one of my favorite lines from a movie:

"I won't be IGNORED, Dan.."

heh..