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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:12 PM
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The price of pure vanilla extract, whats up with that?
I know it's expensive, but the price seems to have gone through the roof. Kroger brand pure vanilla extract, 4oz. $13.89. It's not scarce is it?
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:15 PM
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1. Vanilla Beans from Madagascar
are scarce. That's what makes it so expensive.

You can still get artificial vanilla for cheap.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:27 PM
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9. It's a fact
And it's way better than the imitation - so I pony up the cost for the real thing. It's not cheap, that's for sure.:D
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:16 PM
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2. Real vanilla comes from
Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 04:16 PM by burrowowl
around Veracruz in Mexico. There is only one pollinator and it is going extinct.
Vanilla plants are now grown elsewhere and have to be hand pollinated.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 05:05 PM
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17. Pity it's going extinct...
mankind had better hurry if it wants all the prepared food delicacies that require it... or get used to bogus flavoring...
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:16 PM
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3. Isn't is crazy?
The price has doubled. Hubby says bushie must have pissed off the country that we get vanilla from.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:22 PM
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4. Which country has he NOT pissed off?
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:24 PM
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6. No shit!
Thanks for the input everyone.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:32 PM
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10. Yup:
70% of all Vanilla comes from current (technically France) and former French colonies.
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Widgetsfriend Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:23 PM
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5. Here you go.
http://www.amadeusvanillabeans.com/store/one-stop.asp

I ordered some from this place about six months ago. You're right, though, even their prices have gone up. Scroll down, a 16 oz. bottle is $24.00. It arrives quickly and you certainly won't need any for awhile!! It's good, too.
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Hotler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:25 PM
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7. Way cool!
Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 04:25 PM by Hotler
Thanks a bunch.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:26 PM
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8. Costco vanilla is cheap too
Well not cheap, but much cheaper than those tiny bottles at the grocery store. It's probably about 1/4 the price.
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:41 PM
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11. I once bought Vanilla at Costco for around $10.00
Last time I checked it was $20.00 for 16 oz. bottle. Better price than grocery store, but whoooshhhh!

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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:46 PM
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12. A lot of people from TX, go to Mexico to purchase.
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Harrumph Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:47 PM
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13. It's reallly that expensive in the US?
I just bought 3 bottles (16 oz) for less than $10.00 in Mexico for my aunt in Oregon.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:47 PM
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14. Before vanilla vodka came out I had a recipe for a martini that
called for 3 or 4 whole beans, split and then "muddled."

I did the math and figured each martini would have cost $28-$30. Even homemade!
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:56 PM
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16. wha...?
How much costs a bean stateside?

Last time I bought Vanilla two beans were about €3; organic €4. :shrug:
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 05:06 PM
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18. I don't know how much whole beans are right now. Can't find them.
I looked for them around the holidays last year, no store I checked had them.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:16 PM
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22. Trader Joes had them last time I was there
I wanted to buy them to make my own infused vodka. :-) I forgot to go back and get them. I don't know if they still have them. You can buy them mail order or online from from Dean & Deluca's.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 05:33 PM
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20. It's about triple the price here
Edited on Tue Jul-13-04 05:35 PM by supernova
3 beans will cost you about $12. Holiday baking gets expensive.

Here's one place, vanilla.com

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Westegg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 04:48 PM
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15. The price of vanilla beans blew me away...
... but I paid, because I wanted to adhere to the recipe... In the final analysis, I could have just used pure vanilla extract, which costs as much for 4 ounces as these two beans cost me---and those 4 ounces last for months...
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 05:08 PM
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19. natural disaster in Madagascar ...
They're a major producer, and apparently the crop was almost wiped out by storms. (A co-worker is from there, and she tipped me off in advance, suggesting I stock up because the vanilla market "is going to go crazy".)

I make my own vanilla extract by steeping the beans in vodka for several months, and give it away at Christmas. It tastes different than the commercial type (frequently they add coloring, and even sugar, even to the natural varieties) but people have been asking me for refills -- so I guess it's okay!
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:10 PM
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21. See if there is a Trader Joe's in your neck of the woods
They have excellent quality vanilla extract at a very low price. Their saffron is also quite reasonable.

http://www.traderjoes.com
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:19 PM
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23. Yup--and their Madagascar vanilla beans are WAY cheap!
I see them in other stores for $10-20 for a jar containing ONE vanilla bean. TJs sells a jar of 2 beans for $3.99.

Long live TJs.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:21 PM
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24. My favorite store
For food products anyway. }(
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 06:26 PM
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25. Pure Vanilla is rare
It comes from a plant which only grows under another rare plant called Saxifragum cornellus.

The plant must be harvested only when the moon is in its 1st quadrant not less than 3 days after a hailstorm.

The extract can only be removed by rolling the plant clockwise on the thighs of 16 to 22 year old virgins (female OR male, strangely enough).

And export of the product must be in special explosion and magnetically protected containers.

That must be why.
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-04 09:20 PM
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26. the price of cloves has gone goofy, too!
$130 a lb or something, so like $6 or so for a jar

BUT....I found them in an ethnic store for 1.29. Larger jar, too. In that same store in the spice aisle, the McCormick ones were still pricey.
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