sundog
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:01 PM
Original message |
Poll question: Do very "good looking" people have an easier ride? |
|
Do you think that very "good looking" people have had an easier ride in life than those with average looks?
In Utopia, inner beauty would always take precedence... but in reality I know we live in a superficial world of appearances.
On more than one occasion I have seen people who I KNOW have been able to slide by on looks alone...
What is your opinion?
|
Feanorcurufinwe
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:03 PM
Response to Original message |
sundog
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #1 |
4. The only person who voted "no" must be very good looking -lol |
ForrestGump
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:10 PM
Response to Original message |
2. Yo, baby...wanna ride in my van? |
sundog
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #2 |
|
I'm bored today -- anyone with a van like that has to be smoking grass... :smoke:
|
ForrestGump
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #5 |
8. Nope...I just had it parked outside Whole Foods, as I popped in to buy |
|
a peck of pickled peppers, when some roving gang of hippes in a Volvo wagon commenced to spraypaint my ride. :-(
Damned hippies...
|
sundog
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #8 |
Wright Patman
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:16 PM
Response to Original message |
|
if you are perceived to be a "pretty boy" guy, you have a harder time being taken seriously by your ugly "macho" counterparts, and even some women tend to question your sexuality, especially if there is some attraction to you on their part that is not immediately reciprocated. It is easier to take rejection when you can brand the "rejector" as "gay," I suppose.
I have been told by women before that in general they do not like to have to "compete" with a guy in the looks department. It is all so superficial, just as is practically all the decadent American culture. The upside is that, if the fundies are right, this culture will soon be destroyed anyhow.
And if we don't do it ourselves, Dubya will as his last petulant act after being voted out of office, prolly have a "Dr. Strangelove" moment and nuke the entire world into oblivion. He's on record as saying he doesn't know how history will judge him as "we will all be dead." I will let others parse that statement.
|
Deja Q
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:23 PM
Response to Original message |
6. No. It's more personality that counts... |
|
Edited on Sat Jul-17-04 02:23 PM by HypnoToad
A guy in a personals ad responded to me. He is ***HOT***. He also said that, apart from one immigrant that was an obvious hoax, I was the only one who'd responded to him and he had his ad up for a long time.
I also recall from a previous job an owner of a large insurance agency. He's a 5'7' 300 pound bald gargoyle porker. He had a wife, kids, everything.
It's not what you know or what you look like. It's who you know and/or how your personality is.
If I invested in companies I screamed "EXPLOITERS!" about, I'd have been a multimillionaire by now too.
|
unhappy_guy
(17 posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:25 PM
Response to Original message |
sundog
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #7 |
9. Of course it's a no brainer... |
|
I was just sickened by something I saw today :mad: ... HAD to vent
|
SOteric
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:41 PM
Response to Original message |
10. Abso-freakin'-lutely. |
|
Edited on Sat Jul-17-04 02:42 PM by SOteric
If you're a smokin' hottie, your friends, your parents your pets don't die, sexual partners never cheat on you or treat you with indifference, your car never breaks down, your bank account is always perfectly balanced and full of surplus cash that wants spending.
If you look really, really good, your job is never in danger at work owing to a poor economy and a lackwit manager; lovers never use and then discard you, everyone respects and admires every word you have to say; your choice at the polls always wins and then comes immediately around to your way of thinking on all the issues.
Tremendously beautiful people never struggle with life-threatening illnesses, a failure to succeed in their careers, or a crisis of personal integrity. Physically lovely people are not betrayed or hurt by their friends, they never suffer the bitter jealousies of an unknown rival.
Certainly no good looking person has ever taken a prattfall in front of someone they were trying to impress and spent days weeping in humiliation.
|
sundog
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #10 |
15. Everything that walks on this planet |
|
must suffer in one way or another, there is no denying that fact. However, I do believe that extremely good looks do afford certain people more opportunities than others.
|
SOteric
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #15 |
17. Perhaps you should define "easier ride." |
|
Sure, pretty people, wealthy people and powerful people have got a little smidge of an edge in some cases and with regard to a few specific things in life. But in the great ride that is a life on this big blue marble, everyone gets a share of pain.
|
sundog
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #17 |
|
that is one of the Noble Truths.
But I like to leave the question open to interpretation. It provides a broader range of opinions :)
|
SheilaT
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:49 PM
Response to Original message |
11. If you are an exceptionally |
|
attractive female, and/or have large breasts, you are almost never taken seriously.
One large breasted woman I know said that it took her until she was about twenty-five to develop any sort of personality because no man really cared about anything but her boobs.
|
Nikia
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #11 |
22. It can go both ways for women |
|
I am unsure how I stand appearance wise since I've had self image problems. I spend half my time wondering if I'm too attractive and the other half wondering if I am too unattractive. Attractive women do get lots of attention from men in everyway. Men always seem happy to help them. They are nicer to them, aside from some harassers. On the otherhand, I think that they are judged as less competent in general. I think that it can make it harder for them to be taken seriously in general or be hired for high profile positions in smaller companies. I think that a lot is assumed about one's personality based upon looks, which isn't necessarily true.
|
SheilaT
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #22 |
27. The other thing is, of course, |
|
to what extent beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I've always considered myself at best average looking. I've NEVER had people behaving as if I'm gorgeous. But one time, (many years ago now) a man suggested to me that the reason I didn't have very many dates was that I was attractive enough that men felt shy about asking!
All these years I've never quite known how to take that, but I generally consider it a compliment and leave it at that.
|
Nikia
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 06:07 PM
Response to Reply #27 |
28. Maybe that's why I've gotten mixed signals |
|
I've been told by multiple people that I am an ugly freak. I also have been told by many people that I am really hot. I look significantly better wearing make up. I look significantly better wearing nice clothes. I go into interviews wondering whether or not I should look better or worse. I am applying for jobs in a male dominated industry, although opening more to women. A couple times, I realized that the interviewer was more interested in what I looked like than my qualifications. I just wish that I wouldn't have to consider that so much.
|
GOPisEvil
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:50 PM
Response to Original message |
12. Hell yes...whether consciously or not, people are judged on their looks. |
SOteric
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #12 |
14. Piffle. See my post above. |
|
Edited on Sat Jul-17-04 02:52 PM by SOteric
And define 'easier ride.'
|
GOPisEvil
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #14 |
16. Certainly attractive people live the same lives as we all do, however, |
|
Edited on Sat Jul-17-04 03:02 PM by GOPisEvil
in employment situations, attractive people are certainly at an advantage. Specifically in hiring...
|
SOteric
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #16 |
19. And they have disadvantages in employment situations, too. |
|
Edited on Sat Jul-17-04 03:09 PM by SOteric
Unusually attractive people may be hired more quickly and possibly they may be promoted and receive pay raises more quickly.
However they also risk losing their jobs entirely because of an SO or spouse who feels unnecessarily threatened; they frequently are not taken seriously owing to some myth that pretty people cannot be bright and talented, too; viscious jealousies spring up against them in the workplace and undermine their efficiency; and unwanted sexual advances - perhaps even harrassment can be distracting or even make a work situation unpleasant enough to leave.
|
GOPisEvil
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #19 |
20. Hmmm...stop making sense, will ya? |
lolly
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #14 |
25. Higher job evaluations, for one |
|
Netscape posted a study a few months ago showing that professors--especially, surprisingly, male professors--whose photos were identified as "good-looking" by a group of college students had significantly higher student evaluation scores in all disciplines.
|
Deja Q
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 03:18 PM
Response to Original message |
21. Well, if you think about it, do good looking people get rides more easily? |
Nikia
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 03:20 PM
Response to Reply #21 |
|
I think that unattractive people are assumed to be more likely to be criminals than attractive people. Attractive hitchhikers have the advantage.
|
sundog
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #21 |
|
You're turning this into a sex thread :spank:
|
TexasBushwhacker
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 04:40 PM
Response to Original message |
26. Just remember, easier doesn't mean better .... |
|
and I say that as an extremely ordinary looking person. Very good looking people do have an "easier" ride, but people DO judge a book by its cover, at least in terms of first impressions, and they think "pretty is and pretty LOOKS". People assume attractive people are smarter, nicer, friendlier, etc. This CAN work against the attractive person though. Someone who is attractive with just average intelligence may suddenly be "dumb as a bag of rocks" because of unrealistic, LOOKS BASED assumptions. An attractive person who is shy might be described as a snob or a bitch. An average person who is shy will just be considered shy.
I had a very attractive friend in college who had not been without a boyfriend since she was 14. If she got tired of one, she lined another up before breaking up with the other. She had lots of boyfriends, but her proportion of BF's that were assholes was a lot higher. I didn't have as many boyfriends, but the ones that I had were, for the most part, pretty nice. I was never the prettiest girl in the room and that's not what they were looking for. By the time we were 30, I was still single (by choice) and she was going through her 2nd divorce (with 2 kids).
Easier just means easier. It doesn't mean better and it certainly doesn't mean happier.
|
HEyHEY
(1000+ posts)
Send PM |
Profile |
Ignore
|
Sat Jul-17-04 06:08 PM
Response to Original message |
|
Otherwise, where do most work? They may get laid more, but that's about it.
|
DU
AdBot (1000+ posts) |
Thu Apr 18th 2024, 07:35 PM
Response to Original message |