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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:02 PM
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A freeper email I just got from a co-worker
Subject: Confusing Politics

Lemme see, have I got this straight?

Clinton awards Halliburton a no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - GOOD
Bush awards Halliburton a no-bid contract in Iraq - BAD

Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - GOOD
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - BAD

Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - GOOD
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - BAD

Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists -
GOOD
Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - BAD

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - GOOD
Bush bombs terrorist camps - BAD

Clinton commits felonies while in office - GOOD
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - BAD

Clinton says there are mass graves in Serbia - GOOD
Bush says there are WMD in Iraq - BAD

No mass graves found in Serbia - GOOD
No WMD found Iraq - BAD

Milosevic not convicted yet - GOOD
Saddam in custody - BAD

Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - GOOD
Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - BAD

Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - GOOD
Bush didnt stop World Trade Centers destruction - BAD

Clinton fails to stop terrorist training in Afghanistan - GOOD
Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - BAD

Clinton is President when stock market crashes in 2000 - GOOD
Bush is President when recession is turned around in 2004 - BAD

Ah, it's so confusing!
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:05 PM
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1. Why would there be mass graves in Serbia?
They weren't murdering their own people. Try Bosnia and Kosovo.

Didn't the market crash after Bush started talking it down? It was anticipating a Bush victory.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:08 PM
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2. Debunking:
Edited on Wed Jul-28-04 01:09 PM by Endangered Specie
No mass graves found in Serbia - GOOD --- There ARE mass graves in Kosovo... And we didnt lose 900 troops, or get involved in full scale imperialism in the process.


Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - GOOD
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - BAD --- Its actually on the order of 100billions, the 87bill was an extension to the other godknowshowmuch.

Milosevic not convicted yet - GOOD
Saddam in custody - BAD -- and not convicted yet either, not to mention, WRONG COURT!


Clinton commits felonies while in office - GOOD -- Last I recall he was acquitted?
Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - BAD -- His lies have gotten 15,000 people killed.

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - GOOD -- That was a screw-up by the pilot
Bush bombs terrorist camps - BAD -- And wedding ceremonies, cluster bombs.

Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - BAD -- Only to be replaced by another in 5 years tops. (Himself, perhaps)
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:50 PM
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13. Hate to do it but, to be fair
Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - GOOD -- That was a screw-up by the pilot
Bush bombs terrorist camps - BAD -- And wedding ceremonies, cluster bombs. - that's pilots as well.


It is all crap tho
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:09 PM
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3. Reply with this
Don't think there is a double standard?
Lemme see, have we got this straight?

Bush lies about reasons for war - good
Clinton lies about an affair with an adult woman - bad

Bush loses two and a half million jobs - good
Clinton gains 22 million jobs - bad

Bush creates $500 billion budget deficit - good
Clinton creates $300 billion budget surplus - bad

Bush's vice president holds secret meetings on energy policy - good
Clinton's wife holds secret meetings on health care - bad

Bush sits on his ass in a classroom in Florida while airplanes fly into the World Trade Center - good
Clinton stops al-Qaeda's planned December 31, 1999, attacks - bad

Bush loses popular vote, is installed by US Supreme Court - good
Clinton wins largest popular vote in history - bad

Bush suffers World Trade Center attack on his watch, three WTC buildings reduced to rubble, perpetrators still at large - good
Clinton suffers WTC attack on his watch, WTC remains standing, all perpetrators sentenced to life in prison and currently serving time in federal penitentiary - bad

Bush conducts over a year of combat operations against Iraq, loses 900 troops, insurgents still active - good
Clinton fires cruise missiles at Iraq, loses no troops, Saddam Hussein straightens out his act - bad

Bush most hated US leader in history overseas - good
Clinton most loved US leader in history overseas - bad



Another DUer posted this last week or so. I copied the content because I thought it was a great comeback. Anyone have credit for this DUer? :shrug:
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:13 PM
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7. Dang, that's good. That's a keeper.
Let me know if you find out who gets credit.
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Sweet Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:44 PM
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11. and the credit goes to...
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 02:21 PM
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14. Excellent! Thanks!
n/t
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obietiger Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:14 PM
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8. this is a great reply
thanks to you and the original poster!
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:39 PM
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10. Excellent. Thanks!
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:10 PM
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4. Bullshit, but the anti-Yugo war was indeed also wrong.
Yugoslavia was a victim of US aggression. There was no UN mandate and it's true that much of the progressive movement supported this hailstorm of bombs rained down on the people of Yugoslavis.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:10 PM
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5. They never rest do they.
Always fast and loose with the facts too.

"Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - GOOD
Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - BAD"


We've spent the 87 billion + 50 billion more and that's not counting the military spending if I'm not mistaken.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:12 PM
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6. Not confusing
Just confused. This person seems to think Bush is running against Clinton.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:18 PM
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9. Maybe you can reply with a list of your own:
Lets start with:

Clinton balances the budget - BAD
Bush unbalances the Budget - GOOD

Terrorists bomb WTC on Clintons watch, its his fault - GOOD
Terrorists destroy WTC on Bushs watch, its his fault - BAD

Clinton gets blown, Lies, Death Toll:0 - BAD
Bush fabricates a war, Lies, Death Toll: 13,000 - GOOD

Clinton dodged the draft and was against Nam - BAD
Bush dodged the draft and supported Nam - Good

Clinton won 2 terms - BAD
Bush won 0 terms - GOOD

Clinton can pronounce Nuclear, and wanted to reduce stockpiles - BAD
Bush cannot, and wants MORE! - GOOD

Fewer terrorists training camps in Afghanistan - GOOD
Because they all moved to Iraq - BAD

Commandments violated by Clinton - 1 -- BAD
Commandments violated by Bush - at least 4 - GOOD
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 01:44 PM
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12. Another
Clinton doesn't inhale pot smoke - bad
Bush snorts cocaine - good

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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-28-04 02:24 PM
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15. Along that line
Clinton drives sober his whole life....bad
Bush drives drunk....Bush basher!!!
Cheney has multiple convictions for driving drunk....He's a great american-why do you liberals hate great americans?
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