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Gryffindor_Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 06:59 PM
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Read this fabulous e-mail from my RW friend!! OMG!
One of my first-grade classmates and I have stayed friends for nearly 30 years. She is very conservative (like, if Limbaugh's a 10, she's a solid 8). Every election year since we were teenagers, we've fought and debated over who to support. I've been very slowly, very surely, very gently, working on broadening her perspective about Shrubby. Used lots and lots of DU information (thanks!!!!) during my lurkdom. Anyway, she just sent me this. It starts kind of negative, but wait till you get to the end!! It's long, but worth it, I promise!


Subject: soul searching

Dawn,

I promised I'd watch Kerry's speech, and I did. I wasn't terribly impressed with the "help is on the way" chanting. It was silly, and I resent politicians who think they're the great white hope and that people like me can't succeed without them. (NOTE: my friend is Hispanic.) Leave me alone, get out of my way, and I'll help myself.

But at the same time, I knew he was sincere. I disagree with him in many ways, but I believe that he believes every word he's saying and that his intentions are genuine.

That's not enough to make me vote him by itself. I don't like him, Dawn. I think he's a rich, white, Northeastern snob who got where he is on looks and fortuitious marriage.

BUT.

You and I have discussed many times my tendency to evaluate candidates as human beings, not ideologies. As human beings, I look at the President and VP. I don't like them. I believe in many of the things they say they believe in, but they don't. Real conservatives wouldn't spend like this. Real conservatives wouldn't send our brave soldiers half the supplies and manpower they need.

Real conservatives have principles and stand by them come what may. We tell the truth. Bush and Cheney are many things, but they're not conservatives.

Looking at the Kerry/Edwards ticket as human beings, I don't like Kerry much.

You should go ahead and swallow whatever you're drinking. I don't want you to spew your Diet Coke all over the screen. ;-) Ready? Scroll down when you're seated, calm, and not likely to hit your head when you faint. Given my usual ranting about lawyers, you're not going to believe this.

Dawn, I'm sold, but NOT by Kerry. By Edwards. Here is someone who started with nothing and through his own hard work became a success in his field. He worked hard. He didn't declare himself a victim and go for a government handout. He took cases he believed in and won them for people who needed help. He earned every penny of his tens of millions of dollars, and he did it while putting the right things -- God, family, work -- first.

Of the GOP ticket, I dislike 2 out of 2.

Of the Democrat ticket, I dislike 1 out of 2.

Yes, I will cast my vote for Kerry/Edwards. Cautiously. Doubtfully. Warily. Fearfully. But a vote's a vote, isn't it?

I know you won't gloat or rub it in that you won this one. But if Kerry gets in and fucks up, I WILL gloat and rub it in for four years, even though I'm voting for him. So there. :-P

Call me when you can. We'll get together to see The Manchurian Candidate, if you want to. My turn to buy the popcorn.

Best,
(My friend's name)
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:00 PM
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1. that's awesome!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:02 PM
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2. And you know...
She's not the only one.

Somebody's in trouble. It's why the freepies are decompensating.
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Gryffindor_Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:05 PM
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8. If SHE is thinking this way,
Shrubby might as well be packing his bags. :D
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TiredTexan Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:02 PM
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This letter gave me chills.......
What an accomplishment. Pat yourself on the back.
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Gryffindor_Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:04 PM
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I *never* thought this would happen.
I am in awe.

It wasn't me, though. It was DU. Just used what I got here!

DUers, :yourock:
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dorktv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:02 PM
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3. I do not like Kerry either but I am voting for him.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:11 PM
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14. I didn't much like him. But...
He saved a drowning hamster. He didn't consider that life too inconsequential to matter.

He's kept his friends from the swiftboat.

He chose a rival as VEEP who may outshine him, and isn't threatened.

He raised excellent young women.

And his stepsons are standing with him.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:04 PM
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4. one by one, little by little we gain ground
what a great letter, thanks for sharing..
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NewHampshireDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:04 PM
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5. Nice to know there are people of good conscience out there ... oem
:)
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:04 PM
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6. Fabulous and fantastic!
You did a good job converting your friend. This is how we'll win, people who are fed up with this administration that talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk.

And by registering new voters.

:hug: for you. Ya done good! :bounce:
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:05 PM
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7. Should we presume
she voted for Clinton? After all, he worked his way up from nothing.
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Gryffindor_Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:08 PM
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10. She voted for Perot in 1992 and Dole in 1996, because
she found Clinton personally distasteful (and, to be fair to her for voting on such a silly basis, predicted that numerous sexual scandals would erupt). She voted for Dole because of his war record.

I've been meaning to ask -- is that avatar your cat? What a handsome feline!

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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:10 PM
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11. yeah
that's my girl Molly. Here's the full pic:

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Gryffindor_Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:12 PM
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15. How beautiful!
What a great picture! You should volunteer at the DMV so they can get some decent pictures sometime. :7
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:13 PM
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16. heheh
the trick is to jangle your car keys just off-camera. I suppose that'd work at the DMV...
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:06 PM
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9. The Manchurian candidate is the perfect flick to end her love affair with
Bush/Cheney....tell her thanks for the letter...anything else might change her mind :-)
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newscaster Donating Member (586 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:10 PM
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12. What?????
Kerry got where he is on looks??????????

The man is NO ROBERT REDFORD. He got where is on on hard work, brains and an electorate who wanted him and not some other candidate.

And BTW, having money is no sin.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:39 PM
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21. Yeah, if she's anti-wealthy-snob, why would she vote Republican?
That's a question only Thomas Frank can answer, I guess...
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:39 PM
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22. That's the first time I ever heard Kerry alluded to as a looker!
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Tom_Foolery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:11 PM
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13. Looks like Kerry made the right choice...
take that, all you talking heads who said that nobody pays any attention to the VP candidate.
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Gryffindor_Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:17 PM
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17. I'd say he made the right choice!
I am just in shock. Absolute shock.

:wow: :wow: :wow:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:20 PM
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18. That's cool. I disagree about the "rich kid label" for Kerry..
Edited on Fri Jul-30-04 07:24 PM by zidzi
even though he was rich..I don't hold that against People..it's what they do with their lives not what the circumstances of how they were born.

And I don't think limbaugh is conservative, either(Although your friend sound like she is).. Anyone who backs the bushco is just nuts.

On Edit~ I loved that Kerry chose Edwards...there was a caller from Texas on c-span right after Kerry's speech and she was a former bush voter who said in her Texas twang that she could relate to Edwards and would be voting for the Kerry/Edwards ticket.

And I just read Zogby's poll where Kerry Edwards is neck in neck wiht bush in the South!
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:33 PM
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19. Holy crap.
This is amazing. Good for you in keeping in touch all those years. Not just because of the politics stuff, but because it's a rare and valuable human quality.
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Gryffindor_Bookworm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:34 PM
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20. Reagan had "Reagan Democrats,"
Kerry has "Kerry Republicans!" I love it!! :D
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 07:42 PM
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23. I'm still high from Kerry's speech.
I just thought the whole convention was great. Teresa was inspiring, Obama was spellbinding, Clinton was (as always) fabulously witty and sharp. Just everyone did a great job - and it's obviously showing.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-04 08:47 PM
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24. I'm telling People today that I'm coming off a 4 day High!
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