Does anybody here drink Coor's?

[John_Shadows_1]

I was reading this (incredible) article about the new Democratic 527 fundraising groups:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/25/magazine/25DEMOCRATS.html?pagewanted=print&position%3Ehttp://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/25/magazine/25DEMOCRATS.html?pagewanted=print&position=

And some of the names came out that have been supporting the right-wing message machine:

<snip>
Stein read a few reports that liberal research groups had published on the rise of the conservative movement. Then he began poring over tax forms from various conservative nonprofits and aggregating the data about fund-raising and expenditures. He spent hours online every night, between about 9 p.m. and 1 in the morning, reading sites like MediaTransparency.org, which is devoted to tracing the roots of conservative groups and their effect on the media. To call this an obsession somehow seems too mundane; Stein spent much of the spring of 2003 consumed with connecting the dots of what Hillary Clinton famously called the ''vast right-wing conspiracy'' and then translating it into flow charts and bullet points.

The presentation itself, a collection of about 40 slides titled ''The Conservative Message Machine's Money Matrix,'' essentially makes the case that a handful of families -- Scaife, Bradley, Olin, Coors and others -- laid the foundation for a $300 million network of policy centers, advocacy groups and media outlets that now wield great influence over the national agenda. The network, as Stein diagrams it, includes scores of powerful organizations -- most of them with bland names like the State Policy Network and the Leadership Institute -- that he says train young leaders and lawmakers and promote policy ideas on the national and local level. These groups are, in turn, linked to a massive message apparatus, into which Stein lumps everything from Fox News and the Wall Street Journal op-ed page to Pat Robertson's ''700 Club.'' And all of this, he contends, is underwritten by some 200 ''anchor donors.'' ''This is perhaps the most potent, independent institutionalized apparatus ever assembled in a democracy to promote one belief system,'' he said.

</snip>

I don't drink it anymore, but I had no idea that drinking Coor's supported right-wing extremism in America - I've had my last one, and we all need to spread the word here.

[salin]

1. haven't had Coors in 20 years

first came the big "thrill" when it was available in the east ... it was supposed to be so much better than other domestic beer. It wasn't. Then learned about the active HUGE donating to the right (this was in the mid Reagan years). Can't say it has been an active boycott (hard to claim a boycott when one just doesn't like the product in the first place) - but knowing the politics as well as that it is (imo) bad beer has made it easy to avoid. Sorta the same thing with DOminos Pizza - though I didn't learn the rightwing link until I lived in Michigan where the then owner of Dominos lives. Again - not much of a boycott/sacrifice when the product, imo, tastes like cardboard.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

18. I've never drank piss but I imagine it tastes like that

:hi:

[salin]

20. it does (or at least it did in 1984 the last time I tried it...)

coors:beer what dominos:pizza

:hi: :D :hi:

[paulk]

31. my experience was pretty much the same as yours!

Though it was closer to 30 years ago - some friends had bought back a case of Coors from Colorado to upstate NY (where I lived at the time) - it was quite exciting. Coors had a "cool" reputation - kind of "underground", even. I was really looking forward to that first swallow...

It was the worst tasting beer I'd ever had - worse even than Geneseee or Shaffer!! Gag!!!

Now that I live in Colorado, I'm deluged by the swill. Their sponsorships are everywhere. I refuse to drink it. I can't say mine is an active boycott, either, though I'm aware of the political affiliations - the stuff just tastes horrible.

[John_Shadows_1]

34. They used to sell it here in South Carolina...

... like it was an exotic treat - I remember buying it at an old place called the Last Chance Saloon here - expensive as hell. That was 1982.

[in_cog_ni_to]

2. Nope. and never will. n/t

[Trajan]

3. IF you got one ...

I'm drinkin one ....

[John_Shadows_1]

Though I agree with this attitude in general...

.... (about beer) - maybe it's time for both of us to rise above. If you're going to drink low-rent, go with the Beast - Milwaukee's Best. I know, I know, it ain't the greatest beer, but look at the label. Union-made. We got to support that.

I'm a Guinness Stout man, on principle.

[Trajan]

23. From Francios Rabelais: Gargantua and Pantagruel ....

The Discourse of the Drinkers.

Then did they fall upon the chat of victuals and some belly furniture to be snatched at in the very same place. Which purpose was no sooner mentioned, but forthwith began flagons to go, gammons to trot, goblets to fly, great bowls to ting, glasses to ring. Draw, reach, fill, mix, give it me without water. So, my friend, so, whip me off this glass neatly, bring me hither some claret, a full weeping glass till it run over. A cessation and truce with thirst. Ha, thou false fever, wilt thou not be gone? By my figgins, godmother, I cannot as yet enter in the humour of being merry, nor drink so currently as I would. You have catched a cold, gammer? Yea, forsooth, sir. By the belly of Sanct Buff, let us talk of our drink: I never drink but at my hours, like the Pope’s mule. And I never drink but in my breviary, like a fair father guardian. Which was first, thirst or drinking? Thirst, for who in the time of innocence would have drunk without being athirst? Nay, sir, it was drinking; for privatio praesupponit habitum. I am learned, you see: Foecundi calices quem non fecere disertum? We poor innocents drink but too much without thirst. Not I truly, who am a sinner, for I never drink without thirst, either present or future. To prevent it, as you know, I drink for the thirst to come. I drink eternally. This is to me an eternity of drinking, and drinking of eternity. Let us sing, let us drink, and tune up our roundelays. Where is my funnel? What, it seems I do not drink but by an attorney? Do you wet yourselves to dry, or do you dry to wet you? Pish, I understand not the rhetoric (theoric, I should say), but I help myself somewhat by the practice. Baste! enough! I sup, I wet, I humect, I moisten my gullet, I drink, and all for fear of dying. Drink always and you shall never die. If I drink not, I am a-ground, dry, gravelled and spent. I am stark dead without drink, and my soul ready to fly into some marsh amongst frogs; the soul never dwells in a dry place, drouth kills it. O you butlers, creators of new forms, make me of no drinker a drinker, a perennity and everlastingness of sprinkling and bedewing me through these my parched and sinewy bowels. He drinks in vain that feels not the pleasure of it. This entereth into my veins,—the pissing tools and urinal vessels shall have nothing of it. I would willingly wash the tripes of the calf which I apparelled this morning. I have pretty well now ballasted my stomach and stuffed my paunch. If the papers of my bonds and bills could drink as well as I do, my creditors would not want for wine when they come to see me, or when they are to make any formal exhibition of their rights to what of me they can demand. This hand of yours spoils your nose. O how many other such will enter here before this go out! What, drink so shallow? It is enough to break both girds and petrel. This is called a cup of dissimulation, or flagonal hypocrisy.

-snip-

Ah yes: ... Ole Rabelais himself may have drank low rent, but always with a drool, a wipe of the dirty sleeve, and a dirty leer at the serving wench ....

http://etext.library.adelaide.edu.au/r/r11g/part9.html

[Robbien]

4. It used to be our drink of choice, but we dropped it

several years ago when we found it was a RW supporter and very anti-environment.

[Pepperbelly]

5. horse piss ...

my verdict on Coors.

[salin]

7. exactly

:hi:

[Pepperbelly]

13. how are you?!?!?

:hi: :bounce:

[salin]

17. I am well,

exceptionally busy, but well. Trying to squeeze in a DU fix every now and again on the weekends! :D And how are you (besides Coors-less) ?

[Pepperbelly]

24. carrying on in my own haphazard fashion.

:D

Not so busy, just lazy. :D

Although my son John joined the Navy and is now in boot camp. :(

[salin]

27. he, and you

will be in my prayers. :-(

[Pepperbelly]

29. I must tell you ... if I-Told-You-So is to be coveted ...

his first letter home started out: Dear Dad, you were right. FTN.

Referring of course to one of the first things you learn in boot camp. FTN.

Like father, like son, I guess. That was pretty much my attitude until the calender forced them to set me free.

[salin]

30. heh

at least he recognized the appreciation you would get in having a quick "I told you so" moment - rather than stubbornly holding it in ;-) If you think about it - his pointing that out lets you move (at least on one plane) from a parent/kid relationship (where you have to tell him so) - to a one with a common perspective borne of experience. That has to be worth something...

[soothsayer]

6. Do any gays drink coors since adolph slammed us years ago?

I know gay bars wouldn't serve it, bless 'em. WHo likes it anyway? (of course, people somehow choke down corona, so go figure)

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

8. Most gay bars here in California don't serve it

[donco6]

21. Most bars in Colorado serve it

For quite a while, they'd been successful in separating the company from the family. But with Coors running and all the RW contribution stuff coming out again, I'm sure that will have a big impact.

[Hubert Flottz]

9. I don't drink SCAB beer!

Coors is the Scabby shit! Even when drinking, ALWAYS look for that union label! Besides, what is a Bible banger doing selling EVIL Spirits?

[obietiger]

10. nope

they are anti-union

[Cheesehead]

11. Unfortunate that they are aligning with Molson

I would hate to have to boycott those great Canadian beers. In case you don't know it, they are also the source of Killian's Red.

[Nite Owl]

12. Never Coors but

I really like Molson and they were just bought by Coors. Oh well, don't like beer that much anyway.

[Bozita]

19. Canadians brew some great beer, but I've just stopped drinking Molsons

Try some of the LaBatts' stuff.

[kentuck]

14. I live in Colorado but Coors gives me a headache....

every time I've tried it....For some reason or other.

[4morewars]

26. Preservatives...

and other unnecessary (IMO) chemicals cause your headaches. But I wouldn't drink that union busting piss anyway. Fuck that Nazi !!!

[PCIntern]

15. Wasn't that the beer in Smokey and the Bandit?

Stupid flick - but Sally Field did show a great butt getting into the car via the window. Who knew the Flying Nun had it in/on her?

Haven't had Coors since I heard about their politics and union-busting 20+ years ago.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

16. Here's more on that issue

http://www.publiceye.org/bellant/coors_connection.html

http://www.publiceye.org/articles.html

http://www.corporations.org/coors/

http://www.corporations.org/corplist.html

http://www.mediatransparency.org/recipients/heritage_foundation.htm

[BlueCollar]

22. Coors - Colorado

Colorado - Denver Broncos

As a Raider fan...nope...don't drink coors

[DODI]

25. Never Never Never

And now no more Molson -- that only bothers me because I love their Brador (can only get it in Quebec). But no more Molson for me.

[PhuLoi]

28. Tried it once in 1971, sent a sample of it to CDC for analysis.

Response from CDC:
Sir:
We regret to inform you, your horse has diabetes.

[supernova]

32. Haven't drunk Coors products since the early 80s

when I was in college. I found out shortly after that they supported right to life groups and that was enough for me not to want their beer anymore.

Isn't it good to be aware?

[seabeyond]

33. went after coors a year ago for commercials

during football games.

saturday and sunday afternoon, the first two boob twin commercials pretty bad, but let them slide, the third coor boob commercial i saw was a flat out soft porn commercial. didnt hit all the markets, but got it here in the panhandle of texas. sent them letters and told them the filth they feed the children. now on saturday and sunday when husband watches football all day, i have to keep children out of room cause of the porn being presented to 5 and 7 year old boys, and really i dont want them to be conditioned this is what women are and this is how young men behave

this is the man running in colorado for senator on moral values

i want the democratic runner to present this commercial and ask on saturday and sunday afternoon putting this into the home of all the families is truly family value or does corporate greed out weigh our family values

no, my husband stopped drinking coors last year when i started yelling after a decade or two being a coors drinker

[chemteacher]

35. Quote from college days when drinking Coors Light...

"Another Silver Bullet for the Contras."

Coors family was VERY tied to the Liberty Foundation. I tried to avoid the stuff, but sometimes it was all that was around, and I had a hard time avoiding beer in college (Homer Simpson?)

Now I brew my own!

[kentuck]

37. "Rocky Mt trout pee "

:)

[Zinfandel]

36. They almost give away here in N. CA a store sell it for .89 a quart!

But I won't support those right-wing racist, homophobic, women-hating fascist by buying or drinking their beer even it was free.

[John_Shadows_1]

38. That's the spirit, ...

... after a hard day of work, that cheap quart looks mighty good, I know - but just suck it up and have some union beer.