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Plaid Adder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 05:22 PM
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We got NOMAR! W00T!!!
Yeah, I know he's injured and he has that weird OCD thing with the batting gloves...but Alex Gonzales can't hit and we sure need SOMETHING.

Go Cubbies,

The Plaid Adder
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 05:24 PM
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1. NOMAH! NOMAH! WICKED QUEEYAH!
:D
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 05:24 PM
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2. Good luck
Have an eye on that Bartman guy, though. (Sorry)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 05:26 PM
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3. Start making room on your disabled list
This guy is a regular.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:23 AM
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6. Somebody's worried about this trade.
Hmmmmm.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-04 05:36 PM
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4. Nomar isn't injured
Edited on Sat Jul-31-04 05:38 PM by Bombtrack
He had a sore achilles the other night but he surely wasn't on the disabled list. This SUCKS ASS. We got 2 shitty players for our second best hitter. We have a whole bench full of non-starters who are better hitters than Minkevich (sp?) and Cabrera. So we've got average defense, it's not worth losing a fan favorite who's been just as good as ever since he came back from the DL. He's batting frigging 321 !
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:21 AM
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5. Suh-weeet!
This looks like a winning trade for the Cubs! What great news to come home to after a weekend on the trail.

:)
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:30 AM
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7. Ooh, the Cubs have yet another right-handed hitter.
Quake in your shoes, opposing teams. </sarcasm>
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:32 AM
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8. Why must your hate spill over into everything?
Hate spiller.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:36 AM
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10. Why do you think the Cubs can compete in the playoffs...
...without a decent leftander?

Myopic fanboy.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:44 AM
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15. I'm assuming that you mean left-handed hitter......
Patterson, Walker and Hollandsworth are all fine left-handed hitters. Goodwin is one of the best left-handed pinch-hitters in the game.

I'm more worried about the pen than anything.

The pen will be their undoing, should they make it to the play-offs I fear.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:49 AM
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19. Patterson is playing way above his head -- and he's not playing that well.
I'll grant you Walker. Your best LH hitter is a second baseman.

I'll let that sink in.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Hollandsworth hits like my Grandma (okay, before her stroke, but she still wasn't a very good hitter) and Goodwin couldn't get on base if it were magnetized.

And I agree with you wholeheartedly that the Cubs' pen sucks balls.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:52 AM
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21. No, Patterson is not playing well. He's playing well below his "head."
That's one reason why the Cubs still have hope.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:55 AM
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23. Patterson is a great athlete.
But he's a lousy baseball player.

There's a difference between talent and skill. Trust me on this: you've seen the best you're ever going to see from Corey Patterson.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:00 AM
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26. And your baseball scouting abilities derive from where?
Sorry, but, yeah, the guy's got skills to acquire, which is exactly why we haven't seen the best of him.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:01 AM
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28. If he ever acquires them.
By his age, most players have learned to take the pitch in the dirt.

If Patterson ever learns to lay off bad pitches, I'll eat my hat.

Sure, it'll be a chocolate hat. But regardless, it will be a hat.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:04 AM
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29. Hollandsworth's Slugging Pct as a PH is over 1.000
And his overall Slugging Pct is second on the team to Sosa's. Now if he could just get healthy. Goodwin is a good late-inning hitter. He handles the bat well and can steal a base or two...

I'd rather have a line-up of righties than a line-up of lefties. Righties can hit RHP's better than Lefties can hit LHP's. Nothing is more pathetic than watching a Left-handed hitter trying to hit a LHP's curveball.

I do wish that Walker would play more over Grudzelianek. But then there would be one less Left-handed bat off the bench.

I predict that the Cubs will make the playoffs as a WC, then lose in the first round....probably to the Giants.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:35 AM
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9. How long has it been since the Reds won a game?
:)

Yeah, a right-handed hitter who bats .320. Oh, what a waste!

:)
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:39 AM
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11. Saturday.
Oh, I'll grant you, the Reds suck. Atrocious pitching, poor defense, a general inability for good players to remain healthy, a bullpen straight out of Dante....

But at least we've got some good bats from the left side. ;)

And a .320 hitter whose power has left him and will swing at anything (he'll probably swing at pickoff attempts) and hasn't been able to field his position in 2 years? You can have him.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:42 AM
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13. Thanks. We'll take him.
No need for power in Chi-town, just base-runners to keep those home-runs from going solo.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:46 AM
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16. Want my prediction?
He'll go .285 with 4 walks and 4 homers the rest of the season. He will play short like a hamfisted, clubfooted version of Dave Kingman (I'm sure Cubs fans remember HIS glove!).

Nonetheless, the Cubs will win the wild card, and they will advance to game 7 of the NLCS. As a prophylactic measure, Steve Bartman will be seated in the 10th row behind first base.

Nomar will throw a routine grounder directly to Bartman, thereby sealing the Cardinals' World Series berth.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:54 AM
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22. Post that on your fridge.
Never let go of any prediction that might come true!

:)
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:41 AM
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12. and good luck to you with him
How to get the best from Nomar Garciaparra -

Never put him in a position where:

The team has men on base and he's expected to bring them home

The team needs a base hit

There's a hard hit to his short stop position

He needs to throw to first base


Following these simple instructions will allow you to get the most from your Nomar Garciaparra... Should you experience malfunctions with your Nomar Garciaparra please dial 1-800-choke-artist.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:44 AM
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14. Hee hee. This stuff is funny.
Usually reserved for sour old sports boards, but, hey, why not here at DU, too!

:)
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:46 AM
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17. we threw a BBQ when the news that Nohit was traded
we're better off with five Double A players and two Special Olympics players than we are with Nohit.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:51 AM
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20. Uh huh.
Then why is it that all I read on the boards here and elsewhere are Sox fans who are PO'd about the trade?

Something's not meshing with your posts. Perhaps your grief process is in the denial mode. Yeah, that makes perfect sense.

Best to you as you work to find solace.

:)
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:56 AM
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24. Because there are lots of naive Sox fans out there.
As if I needed to tell anyone that. ;)
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:58 AM
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25. You said it. I didn't. It's your hide.
Dude, this is DU. Be careful what you say about the Sox and their fans.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:00 AM
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27. Hey, I like both the Sox and the Cubs.
After all -- I am a liberal, and I stick up for the underdog! :P

But just because one likes a team doesn't make that team good. As evidence, I submit my Reds.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 11:14 AM
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30. Ah, so you thought better of it, and backed off?
:)

Believe me, I know all about liking bad teams. I grew up a Brewers (when they were in the AL) and Cubs fan. Need I say more?
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 03:54 PM
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32. Do not mock the White Sox
It makes their fans' mullets sore.
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seaglass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 10:48 AM
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18. How long do you have him for? I'm sad that he's gone in one
way but in another way, he needed to go. Perhaps he'll leave the sour grapes behind.

Good Luck!
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 03:07 PM
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31. It was destined to happen
The pre-season BS with Manny and Nomar meant their days were numbered, and he has been nursing his injuries a bit much.
And this guy turned down 15 million per year for the next 4 years!!!
It was the best thing to do with an unhappy player.
Sox fans are being sentimental. It sucks but Theo Epstien is the big villain here.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-02-04 03:59 PM
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33. He told someone his Achilles tendon might "blow". That would be the
season if that happens. You know he is going to be extra careful so he doesn't screw up his value as a free agent.
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