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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:11 AM
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Madonna/Britney versus Snoop Dog's 2 women on leashes
How come the Britney/Madonna kiss made headlines and Snoop Doggy Dog bringing 2 scantily clad black females on a leash gets no press?
Though I am not against censorship, I think the kiss was more of a representation of girl power. The leash with pimps in the background represents my bitches for hire. I find that quite offensive but i haven't seen any commentary on it.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:18 AM
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1. I'm glad there is no press
Snoop Dogg should not get the free publicity and "fame" for pulling off that stunt. It was ridiculous and tasteless. But rather than be exposed as doing something wrong it would be twisted into "cool and daring" by the MTV crowd.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 12:21 AM
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2. why???
..god mtv culture sure sucks..every white man`s fansity- good looking white lesbians and exotic wild black women. no you`ll never see any comments from those who profit from this pandering ,after all who owns mtv?-rich white guys.. oh well welcome to the new world....
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 01:35 AM
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3. MTV is the worst kind of corporate media
I don't understand why the people on this board don't see this. They're at least as bad as Faux news.

Their goal is to keep the people stupid and consuming. That's it. Nothing more.

They are an abomination.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 02:20 AM
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4. In fairness
I liked the "Rock the Vote" efforts. It did get a lot of people involved.
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IMayBeWrongBut Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 03:21 AM
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5. I watched the show live...
You could clearly see one of Snoop's "bitch's" nipples. I'm sure they edited that out in the later showing of it. I'm not suprised it wasn't covered "gangster rapper continues to treat woman poorly" is just not news.

I'm curious why the Christina/Madonna kiss was not as well covered she did kiss her too.
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 06:26 AM
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6.  I think there would have been a different reaction had they
been white women.
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Spentastic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 06:50 AM
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7. I doubt it
Objectifying women seems to be de rigeur at the moment. Personally everytime I switch a music channel on I seem to be assaulted by young men telling me how much money they have, how many women they own and how many guns they have. It's like watching a republican negative.
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Sweetpea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 07:38 AM
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8. A friend of mine wrote this letter to the NY Times
To the Editor:


Show some love MTV! Breaking free from the myths, lies, and past hurts that continue to oppress people of color in America is a collective effort. It requires a rewriting of the belief systems that drive our collective consciousness. We have many belief systems to rewrite in America and the media should step up to the plate and do their part. First, there is the belief system of White America that continues to exploit black talent and resources while vilifying our participation in the American tapestry. Even worse, is the belief system of Black America that makes it alright for Black men to dehumanize their black women, while White America watches and says, "See I told ya so." The latest example of this was the 2003 MTV Annual Music Video Awards Ceremony at Radio City Music Hall. I watched in total shame and dismay while Snoop Dog walked onto the main stage in a pimp costume accompanied by two scantly dressed, bootylicious, sistas wearing dog collars and leashes. Where was the American outrage? Where was the accountability to his mama, his people and our black women? What was he thinking? And I have to ask, what would have happened if he had walked onto that stage with two white girls?

The next morning there was no mention of this atrocity in the press, no chat about his behavior on the internet, and no dialogue about his lack of accountability to black women at the office water cooler. It proved to me that to become an object is to lose your humanity, your voice, and your visibility. Black women in America and even in Black America are still suffering from invisibility. They are still subject to the abuses of mythology that deny them voice, respect, and power, and a deeper love. This happens at the hands of men of all races, because we know they are strong enough to take it! Afterall, who knows a black woman better than a brotha? We know their secret places, hidden desires, hot buttons, and Achilles heal. We know them because they are our first environment. We call them bitches to make them weak, to bend their backs, and to make them comply. Then we tell them that they are too strong, to hard, to cold, to deserve our love, respect, and tenderness. So we abandon them, publicly, physically, emotionally and spiritually. Small wonder that many of our "self-loveless" sisters confuse complacency for strength.

So it is time to show some love by setting programming standards that respect the image and representation of women of all colors in the world of entertainment. Your influence in creating a collective American conscious that promotes self-respect, inclusion, and personal accountability is your greatest contribution. This year you missed the mark!


N.P. Thompkins


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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 09:23 AM
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13. I agree with you there.
But he wouldn't have been allowed to use 2 white women, imo. It would have been suggested to use a black woman too or don't do it at all.
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Zech Marquis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 07:52 AM
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9. MTV sold out a long time ago
I remember when way, way, way back in the day, thy actually showed music videos all day and night :wow:NOw, to even see a clip of someone's video is a major event in itself. Yeah, MTV is trash, right along with Faux News :eyes: I'd cancel out MTV and add ESPN Classics or Tech TV, or even History Channel International--hell, I'd take another Spanish channel, at least they show music videos with the chicas (who still shake it and maintain their dignity like Selena did) :)
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chenGOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 08:53 AM
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10. To quote Jello....
"MTV GET OFF THE AIR!!!"


And yes they should have to change their name to OMTV: Occasional Music Television.
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 08:58 AM
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11. I think it's because "gay is in the air"
With all things gay seeming to hog the spotlight lately, I think it's just one more gay thing to shock the conservative right.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-03 09:09 AM
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12. Am I to understand that Snoop's new album is "Smell the Glove"?
"What's wrong with being sexy?" - Nigel Tufnel
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