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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 08:57 PM
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Minnesota twins - can rot in hell
First hockey and now this.

What a bunch of overpaid, overhyped, want-money-for-a-stinking-autograph NEANDERTHAL TODDLERS!!!

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/sports/6685858.htm

The bastard broke another guy's wrist - in two places no less - just to win a fucking game!!!

Sorry if this is a dupe, but I am so outraged by this shit. Maniac rampaging rioting fans is a dark enough sign that our society is de-evolving, but this is just too much!


"Once I saw him with the ball, that was the only choice I had," said Mohr, a former high school linebacker, whose impact broke Molina's left wrist in two places and separated him from the ball, which caromed up the first-base line as Stewart continued around third to score the game-winner. Stewart slid under Percival, who was covering the plate.

"He wasn't giving me any part of the plate," Mohr said of Molina, who was charged with an error for dropping the ball. "I feel real bad he got hurt, but at the same time I didn't do anything wrong."

Players and managers in both clubhouses said it was a clean play. "He didn't spike him or anything," Angels first baseman Scott Spiezio said.

"That's a big-league play. That's the way the game is supposed to be played," Gardenhire said. "This is a pennant race and high intensity for us. We threw everything we had at them. It was a huge win for us.
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dawgman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:03 PM
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1. It's just an old fashioned hard nosed play.
At least it happened in the midst of a pennant race and it was just a broken wrist. Pete Rose ended a career in the FUCKING all-star game. By the way, what about that play makes them spoiled millionaires? That's one of the reasons they make millions, the risk of unjury.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:07 PM
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2. Just wait until the little league kids get wind of this story
You know, the ones who play the game "for fun"? We'll see copycat incidents...

Sorry, I should just be heartless and say "That's why he gets $250,000,000 per season" but no. The action was uncalled for, period. It is morally wrong.

Besides, do hockey players get as much money as baseball players? Their violence and ill-will is just as despicable, too.
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dawgman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:12 PM
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6. Dude, I broke my wrist in peewee football cast was off in a couple weeks.
And home plate collisions have been a part of the game forever. Ty Cobb used to slide with his spikes in the air. Kids have been part of homeplate collisions before. If you are scared of getting hurt don't play sports. It was just a hard play. Sad sad too effing bad....two tears in a bucket fuckit....oh well, it happens. It ain't dirty, it was a good hard play.
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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:27 PM
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9. I had my fibula broken as a 9 yo
when the baserunner jumped and did a Bruce Lee on my leg attempting to score. I held the ball and tagged him out.

Part of the game. No hard feelings.
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dawgman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:30 PM
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11. I blew my knee out for the second time in a pick up
B-ball game before my college sophomore football season. It sucks but shit happens.
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Twillig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:39 PM
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14. I WISH I could have played college football!
Edited on Thu Sep-04-03 09:41 PM by Twillig
alas I stopped growing at 5'9, and wasn't speedy. :-)(you lucky bastard...)

That said, If you are a 'Dawgman,' are you one of them Bulldogs? If so, GO BEAVS (Friday night 7pm on ESPN Pacific).

Or one of them damn UW Husky's?



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dawgman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 10:07 PM
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16. UW alum but not where I played.
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DoctorBombay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:14 PM
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7. Hockey players are paid less than baseball players on average
Actually, I can explain to you how fighting in NHL hockey actually *decreased* violence. Again, part of the game. Almost all NHL fights are between the two toughest guys on the team who know what they are getting into.

Hockey players are the nicest, most humble professional athletes there are, out of the four major sports anyway.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:42 PM
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15. Yep. I also read something on how most NHL players are reluctant to fight.
It was on espn.com a year or so ago. For example, Most teams have a couple or few players that will ALWAYS be getting into something (Brian Marshall for the Wild is a good example), but a good majority of the players surveyed said that if possible, would try to avoid any conflict. The players that get into frequent fights repeat the proccess with other players, and that it portrays the notion that all the players are doing it.

And yes, most hockey players are indeed, very nice humble people. Better in general than football or baseball players. Less of a bloodthirst attitude than football, and less of arrogant asshole attitude than baseball or basketball.
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Sick of Bullshit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-05-03 06:03 AM
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17. If that were the case, then cops, firemen, rescue squad members,
and the troops in Afghanistan and Iraq would all be making millions, because they are ALL risking FAR greater injury than some candy-ass athletes.
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DoctorBombay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:09 PM
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3. Injuries- part of the job
There is absolutely nothing wrong with what Dustin Mohr did. Not a damned thing. That's the game. The catcher was doing his job blocking the plate. Had the roles been reversed, Molina (the catcher) would have done the same thing.

And first hockey? Again, part of the game.

Don't like it? Don't watch.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:09 PM
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4. If it were your team would you feel the same?
Not trying to slam you, just wonder what your emotional investment is in this. If the catcher wouldn't have been hurt, it wouldn't have been anything but heads-up play. From little league on up they tell you to bump the guy with the ball if its a certain out. It happens all the time and a catcher knows the risk.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:10 PM
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5. Mohr did not intend to cause any injury
Edited on Thu Sep-04-03 09:15 PM by dflprincess
His intention was to get to the plate. He went to the Angels locker room to check on Molina and was most contrite about hurting Molina on the local news last night. But it was a clean play - even the Angels say so. Plays at home plate are often risky especially for the catcher.

Frankly, I was more concerned about the announcer for the Twins on local radio. He must be near 80 and I thought he was going to have a heart attack when he was describing the play and then spotted Shannon Stewart heading into home.

And, while I agree that professional athletes are overpaid, the Twins have one of the lowest payrolls.

edited for lousy typing
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:20 PM
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8. i think they were
talking about this on a chicago station today. what they were saying that a catcher should always hold the ball and cover it with the glove..always tag with the glove,never reach out with the ball. homeplate is a dangerous place
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:29 PM
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10. NEWS FLASH
This is professional sports...INJURIES HAPPEN. Mohr made an outstanding play completely within the rules. Molina is partially to blame for sticking is wrist out at an awkward angle. What was Mohr supposed to do, stop half way down the baseline and ask Molina to get out of the way. The Angels aren't outraged over it because they know it was a clean hit well within the rules. Twins won the game and deserved to.
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:31 PM
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12. Hey dude lay off!
The Twins are one of the lowest paid in the major leagues. (Athletes do get paid too much, particularly the male ones) And part of the GAME is getting hurt. There's nothing wrong with what Mohr did.

Peace out,

Breezy
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-04-03 09:35 PM
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13. I saw a clip of the play. Mohr intended for the hit to be clean.
Molina should've gotten his hands out of the line of fire. It was completely unintentional. I've seen dirty catcher/runner hits, and that one was not one of them.
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