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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:35 PM
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What US cities should I visit? Been to Europe more that I have I visited
the U.S. I was thinking tonight on my way home from the Austin airport that I need to see more of the U.S. What cities do you think are the best to visit? I have been to San Fran,. New O., D.C., all of the Texas cities, of course, Denver, Santa Fe. Mostly, no northern places. I'm thinking NY, Boston, Chicago, what else and why???
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disgruntella Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:38 PM
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1. philadelphia
Next to DC (which you already mentioned) that was my favorite trip. Lots of historical destinations and museums. (I wish I had something to say about the nightlife but I stayed in with friends.)
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:50 PM
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9. History is my interest, even as a young person, I was not into night life.
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 11:50 PM by efhmc
I love history, nature, good food and great music.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:09 PM
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65. PhArt Museum is excellent as well
University Museum at Penn is terrific (mostly for archaeology and anthropology). Rodin Museum is smallish but supposedly has the most Rodins outside France. Mutter Museum is really really gross, but fascinating http://www.roadsideamerica.com/attract/PAPHImut.html

Restaurants are generally terrific.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:18 PM
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69. Good food, good museums, interesting history and good music are it
for me. Thanks.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:58 PM
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76. Okay, seriously
is that how it's pronounced in the area???
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:16 PM
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82. Took me a minute for that one. Funny.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:42 PM
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90. No, that's just me. Normal people say Philly Art Museum (n/t)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:38 PM
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2. Chicago and Nashville are both great places to go if you are into
music.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:48 PM
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8. Forgot to mention Nashville since my daughter was in grad school there.
Nice surroundings but not impressed with the city. (Grand opera fan here, not the Grand Old Opera) but the the countryside is great.
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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:39 PM
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3. Absolutely Chicago!
Great town, as is Boston. You might also consider smaller locales - Burlington (really anywhere in) Vermont is beautiful. Take a little trip to Hot Springs (Arkansas).
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:53 PM
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11. Forgot that I have been to Hot Springs. My parents use to go there for
the baths and the races every year. I am not a fan of country music or races so not for me. Although the baths and massages are the best.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:39 PM
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4. Seattle
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 11:40 PM by HEyHEY
Miami ,Anchorage
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:57 PM
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12. Alaska seems fun. I have been to some Florida beaches but they seem
no bettter and much more crowded than south Padre.
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:40 PM
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5. Do the National Parks, man!
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 11:41 PM by E_Zapata
See AMERICA the beautiful..... visit some cities of course. SEE AMERICA!

You can't believe Bend National Park in southwest Texas. It is mysterious and magical and ever changing.

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disgruntella Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:00 AM
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16. If you like mountains, you must see Glacier NP in MT
and the provincial park(s) just north in Canada.

Unfortunately the fires this summer closed Glacier off and on. Even mid-summer you can get caught in snow on the main road through the park. But it's GORGEOUS.

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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:18 AM
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24. My bil worked there as a young man and always raved about the place.
I love mountains and being outdoors. Sounds heavenly.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:43 PM
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6. See Minneapolis and Chicago, definitely.
Two gems of the Midwest. If in Minneapolis, check out the MOA of course, and the Walker Art Gallery, also. In Chicago, I would check out a lot of the restaurants, myself. There's the original UNO Pizzeria, and some awesome Chicago Dog stands on the South Side.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:00 AM
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14. Minneapolis? Please explain. Remember I am a Lutheran.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:16 AM
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22. It's the second-most cultured city in the Midwest...
It has all the proffessional sports, First-class theatres, symphonys and ballets, two large art museums, the second-largest shopping amll in the world, pretty liberal (for the most part) people, a good urban counter-culture in Uptown, and lots of lakes and parks.

That's just off the top of my head...
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:20 AM
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25. What cities should one visit?
Edited on Mon Sep-08-03 12:25 AM by efhmc
Forgot to say in addition to Minn.
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leftist_rebel1569 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 04:35 PM
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94. I was thinking the same thing
good idea...
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:44 PM
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7. See NYC before the Bush "presidency" succeeds in wiping it off
the face of the earth.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:14 AM
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21. I was there once when my plane to Texas was rerouted through the NY
airport because of bad weather. We walked/hauled our luggage from one terminal to another because the bus that was suppose to take up was late and if we didn't get there we would be even further behind. This was after an all night flight that was suppose to be direct to Houston. We were put on a rickety, old Pan-Am flight (probably the last one there ever was) with a bunch of French students that did not understand the concept of nonsmoking flights and kept going to the loo to smoke and setting off the smoke alarm. Lucky my daughter was asleep and didn't realize the chaos we were in. We stayed on the runway for hours waiting for clearance before we could take off. That was one of the worst flights ever. That is my only brush with NY. Any other visits could only improve my thoughts on the place. (My dughter had been several times and loves it.)
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:21 AM
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26. You can't appreciate NY from the airport.
Ideally, you'd have someone here to take you around or point you in the right direction, and you wouldn't confine yourself to midtown Manhattan. You'd amble around Brooklyn Heights and Cobble Hill. You'd see the cloisters way up town. You'd drift around the Village. If you like Europe, you'd like New York. But leave the airport!
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:33 AM
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29. Sweetie, of course, you are right. I could have been in any place in those
circumstances and have never known the difference. They could have told me that I was in Iceland and it would still have been an airport and gross circumstances. I just like telling that story to other Texans that are convinced that NY is the liberal, devil-riddden, rude, Yankee, hateful, capitol of sin for the U.S. One just has to laugh. It will probably be the first place on my list to visit.
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:09 PM
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64. The spectacular views from Brooklyn
Take a cab or a subway over to Brooklyn. Visit the Promenade, where you can sit on a park bench and see one of the most breathtaking views in the world, the Manhattan skyline. Go down to the Fulton Ferry Landing at dusk and watch the lights go on in Manhattan.

It's surprising how many visitors to our city don't know about these beautiful places.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:12 PM
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67. Sounds lovely. Is it as expensive as I've heard?
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:24 AM
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34. Go to the northeast.
It would be quite possible to fly in and out of New York, spend some time there, then rent a car, hit Boston, as well as nearby Concord and Cape Cod. I'm biased as a New York native now living in San Antonio, but if you've never been there for real, it's an incredible place. If nothing else, you will be refreshed to see Americans living in a completely different manner than here, almost like they were forming some community or something.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 10:14 AM
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35. Congrats rsammel!! 600 posts
:toast:
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:43 PM
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50. The only other thing I ever hear about NY is that it is VERY expensive to
visit. Can it be costlier than Paris? I have heard that it is.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:51 PM
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10. intercourse,pa. while in the US you need to spend one night in intercourse
.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 11:58 PM
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13. I have 2 daughters so been there, done that.
Tee-hee.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:00 AM
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15. Superintendent Chalmers came from Intercourse.
He said that in front of the kids, thinking that it wasn't a funny thing to hear. Even Skinner was chortling!
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:03 AM
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17. I guess we all have to be from somewhere and at least people will
remember where he is from.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:09 AM
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19. Yep. Whenever I see Chalmers, I think "Intercourse"!!!
:evilgrin:
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:05 PM
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61. Chalmers is just up the road from me...
Edited on Mon Sep-08-03 01:05 PM by BiggJawn
I'm telling ya, the only way "intercourse" enters my mind when I go through Chalmers is as in:
"Boy, this town is fucked."
The only 3 businesses still open in the "downtown" are the VFW, THE Bar, and the school superintendant's office
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:07 AM
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18. Heaven on earth in the lake regions of northern Idaho.
Sandpoint on Lake Pend Oreille, Coeur d' Alene, in Idaho, a side trip to Spokane, Washington for a civilization fix all within driving distance of each other. Best time of the year is after Labor Day during Indian Summer. Mosquitos are all gone by then.

The deciduous trees are changing the color of their leaves. The Canada Geese and various species of ducks gather on the lake amassing to fly south for the winter. It is such an sight to see so many of them flying back and forth over the lake as their numbers grow. Then one day they are all gone.

The white tail deer bucks leave for a week and they come back with newly scrapped antlers and their fur darkened getting ready for rutting season and they look so handsome as if they are dressed up to go to a deer prom. The salmon start to migrate up the streams through the cedar forest to spawn. It's facinating to watch them climb the ladders of rocks and rushing water.

Oh yes, bring your camping gear. You will want to spend some time doing that.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:16 AM
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23. Wow. That sounds lovely and so not "hot". It was in the low 90's this
week and we all felt peachy.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:33 AM
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28. I dug up some pictures for you from Sandpoint Magazine.





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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:37 AM
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30. Are you trying to make me nuts? Remember I have to live here. My
ancestors were evidentially nuts and thought ranch land, even though it was loaded with prickly pear and mesquite and rocks, was the place to be. Seriously, thanks for the lovely pictures.
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:39 AM
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31. I thought you just wanted a vacation.
It's a great vacation place even in winter because there is good skiing.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:43 AM
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33. I do, but the comparison just might send me over the edge. LOL
I think I just might be able to handle it. Thanks again for the pretty stuff. I know where my realities lie but my dreams are elsewhere.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:13 AM
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20. Come to Canada
Just stay away from eastern BC or western Alberta - forest fires
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:39 AM
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32. I have liked all the folks that I have met here that are from Canada and
it seems like a lovely, liberal place.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:21 AM
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27. Chicago, Boston and NY would be good
They have something for everyone.

Or alternatively, visit small towns, preferably ones not along an Interstate.

You can really get to know people that way.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 10:29 AM
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36. Chicago definitely!
Great food — a real ethnic smorgasbord. There's much more than just good pizza.

Amazing music, particularly if you enjoy blues and jazz.

Fantastic museums — Field Museum, Museum of Science and Industry, Art Institute, plus the Shedd Aquarium and the Adler Planetarium, in addition to a number of high-quality, smaller museums.

The lakefront is absolutely gorgeous with a continuous path along it for biking and walking and if you enjoy nature, you can swing around the tip of Lake Michigan, through northern Indiana and into Michigan to enjoy some fabulous beaches and scenery.

Here's a pretty good guide.
http://metromix.chicagotribune.com/

BTW, in the interests of full disclosure, I'm completely biased because I live in the Chicagoland area. :D
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 10:43 AM
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40. I'll Go With The Big Windy, Too!
Ok, so i'm biased too, but i've been to 50 countries, and all 50 states here at home, and i like Chicago best. That's not a knock against anywhere else, just a preference.

That being said, DON'T come here in January or February. You'll hate it. The Alberta Clipper just whips some nasty cold, windy and damp air into Chicago every winter. It's UNFUN!

I blame the Canadians. No good reason. Just have to blame someone.
The Professor
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:40 PM
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49. You will never get me anywhere north in the winter. Chicago sounds like
a great place. It has made the top ten. Thanks for your input.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:59 PM
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57. That's exactly what I'm talking about.
There's absolutely no need to come to Chicago, in any season. No reason to do it at all. Brr...man, it really gets cold here. And things like Christmas lights or decorations in the windows of the shops of the Magnificent Mile......oops, did I say Magnificent. I meant Grotesquely Unattractive Mile.

Horrible, horrible place. And you'd never want to walk down State Street, say in front of Marshall Fields either. It's just no fun to see the faces of children looking in the windows while a light snow is falling while the sounds horse-drawn carriages fill the air. No way. Not the way that Christmas was meant to be at all.

I can see your point.

(Am I piling it on too thick?)

Just kidding of course. I'll stop now.

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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:04 PM
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59. Well, maybe. I wouldn't mind at least seeing some snow once at
Christmas. We have LOTS of cold wind in the winter, (It definitly comes and goes.)but nothing pretty to go along with it.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 10:30 AM
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37. Louisville, KY
Despite relative proximity to Ultra-freep Cincinatti, and the freeper near-South, it's actually a fairly tolerant pseudo-liberal city. Interesting history, too.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:45 PM
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51. Now that is somewhere I hadn't thought about. Thanks for the suggestion.
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 04:46 PM
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96. A nice place to live but why visit Louisville? Why not Lexington?
There really isnt that much there.

Its a good base, though, to explore the very scenic surrounding countryside. But you could do that from the even more charming and "vintage" Lexington.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:39 PM
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107. I've only driven through part of Ken., but I think it is a place I'd like
to see for sure. It's not really a very big state, is it, so one could probably see several places.
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:59 PM
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112. Recommendation would be to base yourself in Lou or Lex
and then travel "out in the state". If you in in Lexington you are closer to the mountains in Eastern KY and in the heart of the horse country.

If you are in Louisville the Mammoth Cave and the Bourbon Country is closer by (also farily rugged and scenic in parts).

Louisville and Lexington are also very close to each other, so if you stayed in one town you could visit the other.

Kentucky has some outstanding state parks with very nice lodges and restaurants. Very civilized. Most are built around some outstanding natural feature like a lake or forest or mountain area. All have pools and some have beaches.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 10:33 AM
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38. Memphis
no doubt. make the pilgrimage to Graceland, Beale Street and the gibson factory. and eat ribs.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 10:41 AM
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39. You want to stay out of Chicago.
Edited on Mon Sep-08-03 10:42 AM by XNASA
Whatever you do, don't come to Chicago.

There's not much to do here, and the architecture and museums and music and restaurants all suck. It's boring, completely boring.

So you can see, there's absolutely no reason to come here at all. Just move along and go see Milwaukee. That's my $.02.

;-)

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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 04:32 PM
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93. do you live in River North or something??
;)
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:04 AM
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41. Detroit!!!
Detroit has one of the strangest landscapes, filled with beautiful buildings and ruins of beautiful buildings. There is also a lot to see and do-the Henry Ford museum is cool, Hitsville (Motown), hockey in a few weeks, greek food, and the Detroit Institute for the Arts.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:47 PM
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52. Not a place that I had even remotely thought about. Thanks for
your suggestion.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:08 AM
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42. My plug for Boston:
Rich in history, terrific old architecture, museums, theatre, music, sports, and great food (gotta love seafood!).

And only a couple hours drive away from anything: beaches, mountains (coming up on folliage season!) and the biggest fair east of the Mississippi (The Big E... coming in the next few weeks).

Oh, and New Englanders are an interesting bunch.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:08 PM
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63. Boston-old world charm, history, cosmopolitan city
I am biased but Boston is one of the most beautiful cities in North America. The architecture, the water, and the history make it unique. Fall is a perfect time to visit-great weather and the foliage! Take a Duck Tour and I swear you will fall in love with Boston's beauty.

If you wanted to see more of the Northeast, NYC is a 3-3.5 hour drive or train ride (and a 30 minute flight), and Maine and New Hampshire are an easy drive if you wanted to experience true NEw England charm.

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DemOverseas Donating Member (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:31 PM
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84. Boston
is truly great.. Then head north to visit Portland in Maine.
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:40 PM
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85. The Big E!
The Big E is a good time, for sure. Unfortunately I won't be there this year due to the impending birth of our child...my wife isn't up to walking for hours!!
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:45 PM
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110. What a wonderful reason not to go. Congratulations. I hope all goes well.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:44 PM
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109. Maybe I'll start driving. Wonder how far that is from here?
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:14 AM
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43. Sedona, AZ and if you go to New York...
...don't forget to spend time in Brooklyn, and make sure you go up to see The Cloisters.

And Sedona is just the most beautiful town in the whole country.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:32 AM
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44. Sedona is absolutely gorgeous!
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:36 AM
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45. sweet
Thanks for posting. Nice site and great pics!
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:49 PM
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54. Great pictures. Thank you for sharing. What part of the state is Sedona
in?
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DemVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:56 AM
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46. Peoria, IL
You need to experience middle America. Lots of Democrats in that area. Good people.
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rbnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:58 PM
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56. Peoria!
Yikes. Well, if you decide to visit, might as well stop in Galesburg while you're at it.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:00 PM
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58. Any other good attributes?
Beside all those lovely Dems?
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 11:57 AM
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47. San Diego!!!!!!!!!!!!
I used to live in San Diego when I was in the Navy, and have been all over the country (I still have lots to see, though) and my favorites city was San Diego: Beautiful beaches, beautiful people, beautiful weather, lots to do, close to mountains, desert, Mexico, SeaWorld, San Diego Zoo and Wild Animal Park.

I was born and raised in NYC, and that is a fun town as well, though very expensive to visit, and live, but easy to get around, and also lots to do. Ditto Boston (I live about halfway between NYC and Boston now) and Boston has a lot of historic charm.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:38 PM
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48. I have never met anyone that did not love Dan Diego. It is also on my
list for sure.
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:47 PM
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53. LOL!!! Lucky Dan!
Although, It might be rough with all those people loving you!:spank:
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 12:57 PM
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55. Yelp, Dan is a winner, good looking all year round.
You are too funny.
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LeinesRed Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:04 PM
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60. Duluth, MINN
I'm from Wisconsin, but I cannot get enough of this city right on the shores of Lake Superior.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:08 PM
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62. Why do you like it so much? I think others (my traveling companion)
would ask me WHY and I'll need an answer beside some nice DU person told me so.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:08 PM
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80. Well, it's right next to Jay Cooke State Park...
Insanely beautiful
http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/state_parks/jay_cooke/narrative.html
http://www.startribune.com/stories/1621/783853.html
Somebody's photos here, 'cause I still don't have my scanner up and running:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/21649020/18027915zYHWRUEROH

I had no major kick against Duluth, but mainly saw it as a nice jumping off point for visiting other spots in that part of the state. Also, when they work on streets they put up signs declaring it a "Duluth Progress Zone," a euphemism I sorta got a kick out of.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:04 PM
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78. The North Shore
is gorgeous. I'm a NY->MN->Upstate NY-transplant, and I tell ya, I miss the North Shore of Superior. You can't swim in it for fear of heart failure, but what a lovely place it is.

Had anyone been to Bob's Cabins? If I had the cash, the North Shore is where I'd spend my summers.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:06 PM
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79. Is that a place to stay (duh)?
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 07:22 PM
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113. Bunch of places
Edited on Mon Sep-08-03 07:23 PM by mmmarke
to stay on the north shore of Superior. Bob's Cabins is just a fave of mine.


Run by a couple of wildlife biologists (or used to be, anyway). They were into rescuing sea fowl from fisherfolk's lines and such. We helped them catch a gull once who had a fisherperson's lure stuck in its beak. Poor thing couldn't open its beak because of the lure thing. They knew how to cut it loose from the line and treat it. That gull was so happy to have a free beak!

On edit: *lake* fowl, I guess!
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:12 PM
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66. Can enthusiastically recommend Savannah GA and Brattleboro VT
Just lovely, both of them. Oh, and Wilmington NC, complete with almost deserted beaches not 10 miles away (at least when I went, which was admittedly out of season).
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:15 PM
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68. So that's where your undisclosed location is. I've been to Richmond and
Edited on Mon Sep-08-03 01:16 PM by efhmc
Atlanta but none of the other places you mentioned. Thanks.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:54 PM
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74. I'm in Cola SC. Notice it's conspicuously missing from my recommendations
Although it's a terribly nice place to live. No reason to visit though, except for the visual and olfactory symphony that is the springtime, but that's true throughout the South. We have a couple of good museums and many nice restaurants, but any bigger city has better, and Charleston is much nicer, prettier and more historical. At least we're humble...
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:12 PM
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81. Why is it named Cola?
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:44 PM
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91. Columbia. I'm obviously very abbreviation-oriented (see above)
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:29 PM
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103. Well I feel dumb. I could not figure how there could be such a nice place
that I had never heard of. LOL
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:26 PM
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70. Just out of curiosity
What do you do for a living, that allows you to travel (enjoyably, it sounds like) so much? Because I want a job like yours!

(Used to do bidness travel nationwide for a medical software company, but I never got to see anything really fun in the US cities I visited.)
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:40 PM
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72. I run our family ranch. I have caretakers there and my time is pretty
flexible. However, hands on always makes thing run better. I can actually do a great deal of the work on my computer wherever I am. You do not want this job in this economy. We are constantly looking for ways to make more money. (plug for my website: www.calfcreekranch.com) Luckily, I do not have to rely on that income to keep me going. I can take week trips and usually still keep things going smoothly. I will definitely not be doing this all at once. It's a shame you couldn't get some fun out of that traveling job. What are you doing now?
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:55 PM
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75. Well, sir
I'm not doing much of anything, these days, apart from looking for a career outside of IT. Do your cattle need massage? 'cause I did that once, too. (Well, okay, not *cattle* massage, merely the human variety . . . but muscle aches are the same cross-species. I wonder if "relaxed" cows taste better than the other . . .!)

Yes: business travel is the pits. Fun-sounding, at first, until you actually do it. Still, I'm so grateful I was able to visit: El Paso, Dallas, Birmingham, Naples (FL), Boston, Jacksonville, Nashville, a host of other cities I can't remember at the moment. Wouldn't want to do it again, though. When I retire, or win the lottery, travel will be my passion.

Q: Are there *any* jobs one wants in *this* economy???

But to answer your question with one of my own: what cities should one visit, who has never been to Europe? I have a couple of friends who are madly in love with Prague. I would love to visit *anywhere* in Italy. Or Britain. Or Spain. Or Morocco. Or--geez, never mind.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:04 PM
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77. Actually,I would love to have the money to have a spa at the ranch.
Edited on Mon Sep-08-03 02:09 PM by efhmc
(Maybe if I meet a millionaire investor on my travels in the U.S.) No one I know has any extra cash. I would first do the main cities in Europe: London, Paris, Rome, Amsterdam, Berlin and visit museums, ride the train and eat good food and have fun. Of course, our present admin. has made us pretty unacceptable about now but that will pass and people usually like to take ones money, no matter what. (Wanted to add that it would need to be a Dem. millionaire. What do you think the chances of that happening are?)
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:20 PM
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83. A spa!
Spa at the Ranch (TM).

You only need to provide living space for the practitioners, and give them a stake in the growth. You could do it!
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:51 PM
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86. Do you have any idea how in the middle of nowhere this is and even
though there are a great many nice people, the political middle is considered to be communist by the local townspeople. The local town of about 7,000 is full of cowboys (real and believe me there is nothing romantic about them), rednecks (not the neck received from work, but from turning red from anger at the thought of a new idea or of women, minorities, etc. being allowed to do anything but slave for men), and really, really religious folks that think bush is Jesus's rep here on earth. Sure wish my ancestors had kept on going west.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 05:29 PM
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100. Ah, but $20 worth of neck massage from moi
or any other worthy practitioner, and the rednecks would convert to--erm--buddhanecks.

Most folk are only a good neck-n-shoulder-massage away from voting Democrat! . . .
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:32 PM
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104. If I thought that had even the smallest potential to happen, I could get
money from the all the die hard Dems to give free neck massages right outside all the polling booths. It would be worth every penny.
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Habibi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 07:25 PM
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115. Wouldn't that be great?
I mean, really. "Relax. Vote Dem."
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Japhy_Ryder Donating Member (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:31 PM
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71. Blue Ridge Parkway
If you have a couple of days, drive the Blue Ridge Parkway. It's beautiful, especially from the start in VA to Roanoke, and then around Asheville, NC to Cherokee, NC. Beautiful mountains, you will see lots of wildlife. Asheville and Charlottesville are nice towns along the way and there are lots of great (long and short) trails along the Parkway, leading to waterfalls, peaks, and lakes.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 01:44 PM
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73. I traveled on it a little when one of my daughters was visiting colleges.
It is an amazing route. Unhappily, we were on a schedule and did not
get to go far.
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chadm Donating Member (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 02:59 PM
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87. Seattle
Like nothing else in the US.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:34 PM
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88. That was the city that started the whole idea. I was listening to a book
on tape that takes place in Seattle and that started me thinking and here we are.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:35 PM
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89. DON'T come to Milwaukee
The summer fest and ethnic fests are probably too popular for your interests...

and the Art Museum, well, I can't understand why THAT is an award winning piece of Modern Architecture, and inside, well who would want to see the largest collection of Georgia O'Keefe outside NM? I can't imagine...

Now the lake, you know the lake is so big you can't see across it? There's nothing to see but blue water and sails for miles and miles...boring. Don't you really want Pirates of the Carribean?

And the Natural History Museum, its the 5th or so largest in the US, but who would want to see number 5?

The Mitchell Domes and botanical garden wouldn't be much interest to a traveller, I mean you've seen the world. Why would you want to walk through a building that takes you through all the worlds ecosystems?

And speaking of walks you know if you walk one way on the River there is nothing but Clubs and restaurants and marina, and the other way just leads to a mess of Devonian Shale where there are bryozoans and other fossils just falling out of the ground.

And the Grand Avenue Mall, ya' know what visitor who would want a many-storied shopping mall right downtown? The cheese curd shops out by the interstate are so much more interesting...

And The Performing Arts center, regularly Broadway on the road, ya know? It clutters up the Symphony schedule.

And roads, oh my, you know the circus parade really disrupts things, the unloading of the train, the horses, the wagons, the clowns, elephants. Oh! its just a scene. It can ruin a whole day!

Ya, I've though about it and I think you are better skipping Milwaukee





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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 04:49 PM
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97. Milwaulkee was a BIG suprise to me.
I went there last year for that GermanFest (sort of to accompany my folks) and stayed a bit to sitesee.

I was expecting a dead version of Clevleand or Detroit.

Instead I got a Midwestern version of Louisville, or a scaled down Chicago. A VERY diverse and interesting city, and a very pleasant one, too.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:09 PM
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102. Wisconsin is beautiful....
Milwaukee and LaCrosse are two places that are very nice there. And, it's not too busy like Chicago or New York so you don't get lost in the shuffle.

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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:37 PM
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106. When I lived in Dallas, we always had nice folks from that part of the US
in our church. They were very nice and happy to be out of the cold. Not sure how they felt about the heat.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:34 PM
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105. What's with the reverse psychology? Do you not want Texans visiting?
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 03:45 PM
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92. I just drove cross-country last month
and the biggest surprise by miles was Minnesota.
I wasn't really in Minneapolis but the countryside around the Mississipi river on either bank for about sixty miles is gorgeous. It's pretty much the only place in the midwest I would consider living.
I'm from Seattle so I can't give you a fair and balanced there but I think it's a pretty cool city and one of the few in the northwest worth making a seperate trip for (sorry Portland).
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TheBigGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 04:44 PM
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95. id say NYC....
...never been there, but that seems the obvious choice.

Of the other cities you list...eh..why bother after New York?


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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 04:54 PM
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98. Portland, Oregon is a great, great place to visit . .

Esp. if you like outdoor stuff. The city itself is
beautiful (but stay out of downtown unless you want to
be accosted by homeless people). There's skiing in winter,
desert and ocean beaches within two hours drive.

The best Italian restaurant in the city is Genoa. You
need a reservation two or three weeks in advance, but
it's well worth it.

Don't bother with our basketball team. The Jail Gangstas
are an embarrassment.

If you like green and pretty--we're the place to be.
Just don't expect much sunshine.

D
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:41 PM
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108. When is the best time of year to go?
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Keithpotkin Donating Member (191 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 05:11 PM
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99. nyc
its the only city that matters.
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linazelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:01 PM
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101. I LOVE New Yawk!
I'm a Chicagoan but I've been to NYC three times. It is THE greatest city I've ever visited and I've been all over the country. It's historical, gritty, alive...simply fascinating to me. It's not the most beautiful place in the world but it has character. Places to visit/things to do: get on the tour buses and see the entire city including Harlem and the Statue of Liberty; visit Katie, Matt and Al; do Central Park and take in a musical or play. Of course shopping is mandatory. Three days, four max is a good bet for NYC.
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 06:50 PM
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111. I am really not a "tour " person as I enjoy being on my own, but I found
in Europe that that is the fastest, safest, and sometimes even the most knowledgeable way to go (according to the quality of your tour guide), especially if you want to see a great many things in one day. I like the idea of doing the big picture of NYC that way. Thanks for the tip.
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Brucey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 07:24 PM
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114. There aren't many, but
Santa Fe, Seattle, New York, Boston, San Francisco, and Portland are all fun.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-08-03 07:26 PM
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116. Boston or Los Angeles.
n/t
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