Who's warming up for hunting season?

[Superfly]

I am! I just bought a new bow (Mathews FX) and I can't wait to get out into my tree stand.

So, who else is getting ready for the upcoming seasons?

[maxomai_vs_rove]

1. Not me

No tag this year. :(

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. I can't wait to shoot a poor defenseless animal

I wish animals were armed.

[Superfly]

5. Hi! Nice to see some things never change!

:toast:

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

18. Just messin with ya..does this mean I am going back on ignore? *sniff*

[Superfly]

20. You never were on ignore!

I think you and I had a big fight about 6 months ago, but I forgives ya!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

42. Kewl! Thanks.

For all I know I may have been an ass...or i was just being me...always the formidable opponent :D

Can I ask an honest question without getting my ass kicked?

Lower in the thread you answered that hunting is an expensive sport..so..the kill really isn't cheapnor is it done to feed yourself.

I HONESTLY am asking..what is it about killing something that is so much fun?

Don't get me wrong...I have often fantsized about a few of the cars driving slow in the fast lane in front of me but really and I am not asking this to trap you, make you wrong or be an ass ...what is it about killing a live animal that is so much fun. Really?

[Superfly]

45. The killing part SUCKS

I hate it. The fun comes in waking up with the denizens of the forest, having squirrel pretty much walk on you (cause you're all camo'd up), breathing the fresh air.

That's why I choose not to pull the trigger as much as I do. Sometimes I just hate to ruin the moment with killing something, but other times, that's what I'm out there for.

[OneBlueSky]

46. ever hear of a camera? . . .

killing animals for sport always struck me as just a little sick . . .

[Superfly]

48. Once again for the people in the back

I don't kill for sport...I kill for the meat attached to the animal.

[WillParkinson]

72. My dad....

Always thought of me as less of a man because I told him the only way I'd ever shoot a deer was with a camera.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

47. Thanks

[1a2b3c]

21. You put NSMA on ignore?

:thumbsup: :-)

[Superfly]

23. Never!

The only person I ever had on ignore was benchly, and then only for a day. I felt I was missing all the fun.

[ArkDem]

9. Many of them have legs.

.

[Superfly]

10. ROTFLMAO!!!

Yuk, yuk, yuk!

[Pert_UK]

57. You have the right to bear arms or the right to arm bears.......

It's the 2nd amendment!

P.

[meegbear]

3. Good luck ...

and have a good season!!

[CO Liberal]

4. These Guys Are Ready

:-)

[Kolesar]

6. Be a gentleman

Last year, I saw some poor deer running around my neighborhood with an arrow dangling out of its hide. A clean shot would have killed him. Only take clean shots when you are sure you will kill.

[Superfly]

7. Of course.

I will also choose not to shoot at more deer than not. Sometimes the fun of the hunt is just getting to the point where you can shoot, and then deciding not to.

B

[MissMillie]

8. Vennison.... high in Omega 3s

very good for your cholesterol.

[Blue_Chill]

11. I don't enjoy killing, especially when it's done for 'sport'

Want a sport? Go buy a soccer ball and leave the deer alone.

[Blue_Chill]

12. I don't enjoy killing, especially when it's done for 'sport'

Want a sport? Go buy a soccer ball and leave the deer alone.

[Superfly]

13. I don't kill deer for sport.

I kill them for the meat.

[Blue_Chill]

14. Did you local store run out? Perhaps you are too poor to buy it?

Why not take your bow to the local store and bag yourself a steak?

[Superfly]

15. I do that too.

I also hunt for doves, quail, pheasant, rabbits, elk, etc.

Hunting is not a poor man's (woman's) undertaking.

B

[Blue_Chill]

17. Gee is there anything you won't pointlessly kill for fun?

Maybe you can go hunt for bears and wolves so you can complain along with other hunters that overpopulation of deer is caused by too many hunting restrictions.

[Superfly]

19. Pointless?

I just told you that the point of my hunting is for meat. The fact that it's fun is a ancillary benefit.

BTW, I hunt bears, too. Never shot one, though I could have on 2 occasions.

[Blue_Chill]

22. Whatever you say man.

I'm sure you buy all your gear get up at the crack ass of dawn because that is the easiet way to acquire some meat.

You do it because you enjoy killing. Just admit it because that silly excuse won't work here.

[Superfly]

25. Uh, OK

You just go on putting words in peoples' mouths. Seems to be a tactic that works very well for you.

Hunting is *not* the "easiest way to acquire some meat". Its the *only* way to acquire wild deer, ducks, doves, quail.

[Liberal Veteran]

31. As someone who grew up eating wild animals....

...and that being one of the only sources of regular food for us (we were dirt poor), I say go for it.

You can't get much more "free range" than a wild animal and proselytising vegetarians who think hunting for food animals is evil just get on my nerves.

[1a2b3c]

29. Hey i enjoy hunting.

[wtmusic]

24. Either you think it's fun, or you don't

I don't, and I don't buy hardcore hunter arguments that imply you're a hypocrite if you can't kill an animal but yet buy meat.

Just don't enjoy watching animals die. Call me weird.

[Superfly]

26. I hate that part, too.

But animals die every day in more gruesome ways than by a hunter's bullet or arrow.

[wtmusic]

30. So the rationale is

if I didn't save this deer by shooting it, it might get hit by a car?

[Superfly]

32. No, the rationale is

I, as a human being, am also an animal that cannot extricate myself from the food web. Instead of whining about furry little animals dying, I choose to be an active member of the cycle of life and death and reap great spiritual rewards because of that.

B

[wtmusic]

34. Respect that

but I would never feel rewarded, that's all.

[underpants]

16. My father-in-law does the hunting

I just eat the vennison.

Hell yeah I'm all fired up about it. When we are at my in-laws place I tell him the night before not to make too much noise when he leaves and don't come back before 10 AM.

:bounce:

[1a2b3c]

27. Ive already had the dog out for doves

I broke my shotgun saturday shooting clay, luckily i live in Kansas now. I can just get one of the many shotguns at dads house. Im use to using a semi auto and all of his are pumps though. Its gonna throw me off when i have to actually pump something.

[Superfly]

28. What was it?

I have a browning A-5 and Gold...I will never go back to pumpguns.

[toddzilla]

33. the thing that gets me is

how can non-vegetarians complain about hunting for meat? do you think the mcdonalds you ate came from some cow that died in it's sleep dreaming of being in a utopian cow society.

hunting for pleasure .. dumb
hunting for meat.. it's called the food chain.

[TheYellowDog]

67. I agree completely

Read my post below. This stupid crap from non-vegetarians on here seems analogous to Rosie O'Donnell supporting strict gun control, while her two bodyguards have concealed carry permits. Just a wee bit hypocritical! :shrug:

[1a2b3c]

36. remmy 1100

I have a browning 10ga autoloader but thats a bit overkill for dove.

[Superfly]

37. Do they even make 10 ga in No 8 shot?

You'd be painting the sky with lead!

Had an 1100, only shotgun to ever double cycle on me all the time so I ditched it and went with Browning.

[ArkDem]

50. Sacrelige!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!!!!!
You MUST have been using Winchester ammo.

[ArkDem]

51. The smallest is no. 6 turkey loads

with the maximum powder load. That would really bring the doves down but it would ruin the bbq.

[LWolf]

60. The hunters are out for doves locally.

I was following my favorite trail on my horse saturday morning, coming up over a rise by the little pond where a blue heron lives year-round; I always stop to watch the heron for awhile. When the gun went off, my mare catapulted in to the air, spun around, tried, to bolt, and when I said no, stood there and trembled. The dove hunters waved, and assured me they would wait for me to get by. So I went by, and as soon as we had passed them, they shot again from about 20 yards behind us. Repeat scenario. On the up side, we weren't injured. On the down side, my mare was literally lathered from fright and adrenaline; not exactly a peaceful journey from there on out. And we didn't see much local wildlife, bird or otherwise, on that ride.

[Superfly]

61. That's bullshit that that happened to you

The first time, they might not have seen you there, but the second time, c'mon. They should wait until you are well out of range.

For the stupidity of those 2 hunters, I apologize, and say that I am glad you and your horse are fine!

Brian

[LWolf]

65. Thanks!

I think it was stupidity, not a deliberate thing. I don't know how to handle a gun or go on a hunt. These guys didn't know much about equine etiquette.

[XNASA]

35. I always look forward to deer hunting season................

Because that's when the Darwin Awards get their best material.

So good luck fellas, and remember.............

Keep your head low and always watch out for the other guy.

[Shrek]

38. Not yet

Quail season doesn't open for a couple of months yet.

Dove season is open now, and early teal starts in a week or two, but it's still too warm. It just doesn't feel right unless there's a nip in the air and the pointer's getting frisky.

[1a2b3c]

39. what state has the early teal?

[Superfly]

40. The one you just left, Jackass

and Missouri, too, if I'm not mistaken.

How could you leave beautiful Olympia? Listen to me, I'm writing this from DC.

[1a2b3c]

43. Many 'O reasons

family.
friends.
cost of living.
Property is much cheaper in KS
Better hunting (but worse fishing, i had to make a trade)
I can see the stars at night
I like tornados and thunderstorms
Traffic is a breeze in KS
.
.
.
.

[Shrek]

41. This one.

[1a2b3c]

44. Thats what i thought.

What area are you from?

[Character Assassin]

49. Out here in Carmel Valley, it's wild boar vs. man with knife and dogs

The wild pigs around here can be quite the ecological problem, and there are some folks out in the Big Sur/Carmel Valley area who track them down with 4 or 5 Lousiana Catahoula Leopard Hounds and, when they find them, going in with these big Bowie knives.

No thanks. I would think a 10 gauge mag with a slug would be a little more predictable.

[Pert_UK]

56. See, now that's just fucked up.......

Go hunting if you want to and if you can do it legally and responsibly, but IMHO you have an ethical duty to at least TRY to make the animal's death as quick as possible.

Hunting using hounds and knives is, IMHO, inexcusable unless you happen to be a member of a hunter/gatherer society with no alternative means of killing for food.

P.

[curse10]

52. Ick. Not me.

I like the fact I live in the 21st century and no longer have to resort to barbaric meat eating. :puke:

[Pert_UK]

58. That would be "not eating meat at all", right?

If so, fair enough.

P.

[curse10]

76. That's correct

:-)

[Piperay]

71. Yeah, me too...

I haven't ate any meat since I was about 7 years old. :-)

[Pert_UK]

53. Fly, never let it be said that I haven't agreed with you at least once...

Personally I don't hunt, as I don't get much of a chance in the UK. However, it strikes me that some of the "arguments" on here against it are absurd.

Somebody like you who hunts for meat and shows restraint should be regarded as a role model.

The argument on here (can't remember who from) that basically said "You should buy your meat from a supermarket rather than shoot it" is one of the most ignorant things that I have read on DU.

That's right - you should BUY meat from an animal that has been kept in captivity and pumped full of god-knows-what drugs and then crammed into a truck and taken to a factory that stinks of death and terror and killed in a horribly inhumane manner, before being sent down a production-line staffed by strangers.

That is FAR preferable to taking a single shot at an animal who has lived free and probably doesn't even hear or barely feels the shot and then butchering it yourself.....

Basically, if you're a vegetarian then just maybe you can claim some moral high-ground, but to spew out such crap as "buy it from the supermarket" as a less cruel alternative is just bizarre.

My suspicion is that you're a lot more appreciative of the meat and more likely to acknowledge an animal's death than someone who picks up a pre-packed steak from the chill cabinet...

One possible point of criticism.....How large are the animals you go after, and how often do you get a clean kill?

P.

[Sick of Bullshit]

54. Gag

I grew up around redneck hunters that would shoot anything that moved, including cows, dogs, and the occasional human.

[Pert_UK]

55. And your point is?

Superfly has, to the best of my knowledge, demonstrated a responsible attitude towards hunting for food and an adherence to the law.

Personally, I have reservations about hunting with bows, but only because I don't know anything about it and I am concerned that there is more scope for injuring, rather than making a clean kill. However, I'll wait for some evidence before I make any decision on it, and am giving Fly the benefit of the doubt at the moment.

Saying that you know irresponsible hunters doesn't entail that all hunters are irresponsible. Nor have you shown why hunting is necessarily a crueler way to obtain meat than buying it in the shop.

(Checks pulse and temperature) Hmmm....I seem to be defending Superfly - I'm fairly sure he'll be surprised about that!

P.

[Superfly]

59. Surprised? Nah, I'm really a nice guy

once you get past all the guns and stuff. Ha, ha, ha.

A couple points:

-Bowhunting vs. rifle hunting.

I've been hunting since I was 8 years old and my first method was using a rifle (30-06) under the direct supervision of my father. I've hunted pretty much each season, even in Germany, and consider myself an expert shot at short to intermediate ranges (I would never even try a shot past 100 yds...just too much room to wound vs kill a deer.)

In all those years, I've shot a couple deer that've run up to 1/2-3/4 mile before dying.

About 6 years ago, I picked up bowhunting and all the deer I've taken that way have dropped within sight of my treestand, eliminating the need for time-consuming tracking and recovery of the deer. Not to mention the 100% recovery rate of the carcass.

-Responsibility of hunters

I've only seen 2 instances of irresponsible hunters in all my years of hunting. Real quickly, once I was duck hunting with my bride-to-be. We arrived at a 1-acre pond early, set up our decoys, and started calling the ducks. At about shooting light, a truck pulls up directly across the pond, about 50 yards away and starts throwing out decoys.

I shined my flashlight at them a few times to let them know where we were, but they still engaged in something we call sky-busting (shooting at ducks that are out of range, or on the edge of instant-kill range), and they shot in our direction all the time. We were continuosly pelted with lead shot, until I stood up, yelled at them that I am pressing charges, after which they un-assed the area.

I don't think many hunters out there like to be around irresponsible partners...the risk of injury or death is just so much higher as a result of negligence. I know, personally, that I will not hunt with another person after they exhibit only one instance of boneheadedness. Besides being dangerous, it also ruins the entire experience...you have to watch your back.

And Pert, I'm sure that if you and I met, I think that we could become friends. Besides having DU in common, your arguments are energetic and very well presented, which makes my job harder! ha, ha, ha...

Brian

[regnaD kciN]

62. Dear Ted Nugent...

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Farm/9753/poemfiles/hunting.htm

Check the final item on the page for the only approriate form of hunting, IMHO.

;-)

[DoNotRefill]

68. Hmmmm...an article advocating killing people....

even if tongue in cheek, is still in bad taste.

Recently (this past Wednesday), I took a 4 hour drive in the middle of the night through a country "back road". I passed at least a hundred deer eating alongside of the road, generally in groups of 3-5 deer. As I drove past them, they generally either ignored me or stared at me. It seems to me like we have a deer overpopulation problem now. We'll see how many of them end up starving to death this winter.

And no, I don't hunt big animals. I HAVE hit a deer with my car before. Deer overpopulation is no laughing matter.

[DoNotRefill]

63. I hunt year round....

of course, I only hunt insects, especially ants and bag caterpillars. I don't use a gun, just a spray bottle.

Can anybody recommend a good ant taxidermist? ;-)

[Jeff in Cincinnati]

64. Say "Ya" to da U.P., eh?

Going to the DNR website this weekend to get my license. I couldn't go last year, so I've been waiting for this for 24 months!

[TheYellowDog]

66. With respect to the posts

in this thread, about how it is mean to huntill animals, even for food, your arguments are all flawed. So you think it is wrong for someone to go out and hunt and kill an animal maybe instantly, yet most of you(only around 5% of the country is vegetarian) eat meat, and are therefore also supporting the killing of animals. Acknowledge that an animal had to die to make your hamburger or your fried chicken, I always do. You're just hypocritical to rip on hunters while you eat meat yourself, and most likely wear leather and wool.

[buddhamama]

70. i agree and i'll expand

animal farming is killing our enviroment.
it takes massive amounts of land and water to get one hamburger on your plate. massive amount of chemicals,too. and what about the run off?
for all the grain,etc,that is grown just to feed the factory farm animals you could stamp out hunger.
and the animals are mistreated from farm to killing plants. how would like to face a misdirected bolt or be strung up by your legs?

the fact is, most people don't think about the animal and what it has gone through to end up in the grocery store nicely packaged. the convenient grocery store also allows for people to be gluttons when it comes to eating meat. that would surely change if more people had to hunt for their meat.

so unless you're a vegetarian or vegen you contribute just as pain and suffering to an animal's life, and can be branded a killer too, as any hunter is.

[WillParkinson]

73. Vegan here...

:hi:

I used to eat meat.

Then I went vegetarian but still ate dairy and eggs.

Then I learned better.

[buddhamama]

74. i started out vegetarian

over ten yrs ago then went vegen for a few yrs then went back to vegetarian because of problems that i won't get into.

i am careful though when i shop. i buy free-range and organic eggs organic yogurt,cheese,etc.

[DoNotRefill]

75. Well, at least you understand....

the difference between a killer and a murderer... ;-)

[kathee]

69. I cant stand deer meat

but Id learn to like it real quick-like in the event I was ever hungry enough.

My grandmother was a good shot during the depression, kept the famly from starving. Mostly small game.

Finally, if ya wanna see cruel, check out a bullfight. Ugh.



Id rather be fishin!

[TheYellowDog]

77. If you don't like hurting defenseless animals

Then DON'T EAT MEAT, NSMA. Otherwise, you are just being hypocritical.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

78. Wow a new argument I had never heard before

You are a trendsetter. :eyes: No I think people should run around shooting living things they can buy in a grocery store freezer..

So if I shoot you, it's OK as long as I eat you? I'm pretty sure I could prepare a human though on some the brain would probably have the most gristle.