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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:01 PM
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Why do Polish names end in "ski"?
Cause they can't spell "toboggan"! :D
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:02 PM
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1. its like their equiv
of the Irish "Mc" or "Fitz" or "O", the German "von", the Dutch "van"
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:12 PM
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7. Von and Van are actually slightly different
They refer to blue-blooded noble family lines rather than peasant lines. I believe the Irish "O'" is this way as well, but absolutely do not bet your life on it (I say this only because one "O'" that I know stems from Irish royalty).

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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:21 PM
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8. Yes...
"Mc", "Mac", "O'" and "Fitz" all mean "son of" (except "O'", which can mean daughter of)...and "Fitz" is Norman French, originally. "Von" and "Van" mean "of", and were used for nobility...the rest of the name generally referring to the lands held by the person's family.
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:03 PM
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2. -ski I believe is "of" or something like that.
I do know that my Polish last name - "Jakubowski" - means "of the qualities of Jacob." (better translated as "like Jacob").
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:04 PM
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3. So its like Jacobson
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St. Jarvitude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:10 PM
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5. I guess so
My understanding (given to me by my Polish-born friend) of it was that it was referring to the prophet Jacob. I never thought of it your way, but it does make perfect sense to me.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:11 PM
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6. Like my Irish friends are the Fitzgeralds
Son of Gerald I think it means. I dont think any of my names are like that.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 11:39 PM
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16. Polack chiming in here...
It (the ski at the end of Polish names) is presumed to mean "son of".

I know this because my name ends this way. I spent most of my youth getting teased mercilessly because of my last name, as it was easily recognized as being Polish, was unusual and could be warped into cruel versions of the original.

Strangely enough, when I got married at 30, I decided that my last name and I had been through hell and back and that I was actually quite attached to it and had no intention of changing it after the wedding. Go figure. :shrug:
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:30 AM
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20. My wife is Polish
and her parents, born in Poland, told me that the last names there ended in either "ki" for a male or "Ka" for a female...the ski was generic for imigrants taking names of the male members of the family.

Don't know how accurate but that's the story passed to the family.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:48 AM
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22. Pretty accurate
Though not the part about the generic immigrant ski. My family has traveled to Poland to meet relatives and our name is one of the most common names over there.

Now over here, that's another story! ;-)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:31 AM
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21. Are Polish weddings like how they are in Deer Hunter?
because that wedding was cool :D.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:50 AM
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23. Not really
More like the movie, Polish Wedding with Claire Danes. ;-)

I will move heaven and earth to attend a Polish wedding. They are always a blast, with more food, booze and dancing and drama than you can possibly handle in that short amount of time.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:59 PM
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14. Or Jacoboid (nt)
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Lizzie Borden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:32 PM
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12. Many Russian names end in ski too...
but should be translated as skii, (as in Dostoyevskii). It means "of".
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:06 PM
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4. Because they're Ski Poles !
I mean, is this not so?
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:22 PM
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9. I happen to be a Polish American......
Edited on Fri Oct-01-04 10:23 PM by JohnnyRingo
....And that isn't funny.

I WAS funny the time my brothers took our dad's car to the drive-in... They didn't like the movie, so they cut up the seats.

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cheezus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-04 10:22 PM
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10. I knew this guy named Brewenski
everyone called him brewski

true story
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 07:28 PM
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11. Not all Polish names end in "ski"
Lech Walesa (founder of Solidarity), Karol Wojitla (the pope), and three out of four of the deputy mayors of Warsaw have no 'ski' in their names.
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NamVetsWeeLass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 09:37 PM
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13. transplants?
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-04 10:32 PM
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15. Whats with the Polish joke???????
I guess you dont care if you offend people.
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:09 AM
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17. I believe this is related to
other such Indo-European morphemes that transform a noun to an adjective.

-ski, -sko: Slavic languages
-sk: Nordic
-isch: German
-ish: English
-ois: French

etc. Note that they are all suffixes.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:10 AM
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18. So that crazy Matthew Lasko guy is a slav
:cry: no way
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-04 12:11 AM
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19. Because the Swedes had dibs on "son"
:)
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