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captainjack Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:12 PM
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Republicans - evil or misguided?
WE have logic backing us up against these new, fundamentalistst, greedy, neoconservatives.

But could it be that the fundamental tenet of conservatism - a small government intruding as litle as possible into people's lives but also doing little to help the social contidion - is a valid and viable option for a nation's governance?
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:12 PM
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1. Moderates: misguided. Far right: evil.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:13 PM
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3. they're...
both and just plain stupid as well. LOL.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:15 PM
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6. I agree. Not all Republicans
are wingnuts who can't wait for the end of the world. A lot of the more Moderate ones just assume that anything good that happens with the economy is because of Republicans and anything bad is because of Democrats. They don't bother doing any research. They just have believed this for so long.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:16 PM
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7. I second that
There's something about extremism and fundamentalism that wants to squash all dissent. What makes it so evil is that you "must be saved" or else you're going to hell.

That attitude also affects their politics - you must be one of us or else you're going to hell.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:13 PM
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2. Neither. I think it's lack of self-esteem.
It's the only thing that would make people act like that.
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neoteric lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:17 PM
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10. also a lack of quality education, lack of critical thinking skills, and a
poor background of preserving tradition no matter what. Traditional Republicans are not evil like I hear every once and a while. They have a certain world view and their leaders have fixed thier beliefs to play on that world view in order to gain and preserve power.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:42 PM
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15. Yep. I'd have low self-esteem if I lacked critical thinking skills...
They're mean and defensive and they lack intellectual curiousity.

Hey, not everyone has the benefit of a quality education...but you'd at least think that they would learn a thing or two from their faith, which warns against the very kind of behaviour that most of them exhibit.
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:14 PM
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4. A mix
Some are fooled by the propaganda, others do the fooling.
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:14 PM
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5. Depends. Tom DeLay is true, blackhearted evil.
But there are those, such as Chuck Hagel, Lincoln Chafee and others, who are merely conservatives. They aren't evil--they're just misguided.
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:17 PM
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8. I don't know, but they sure do like to hear themselves talk.
:eyes:
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:43 PM
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16. They do go on, don't they?
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:17 PM
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9. a little of both
depending on who
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DarkPhenyx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:18 PM
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11. Neither.
and it isn't a lack of self esteem either.

They simply have a different world view that, in general, is neither more or less wrong than yours, mine, or the rock in the garden. There are some people on all sides of the discussion who are evil or misguided, but to say the entire group is that way is flawed, foolish, and ultimately useless.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:19 PM
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12. Some are misguided.
I have a really good friend with whom I have decided to agree to disagree with. She's a great person. Just has no grasp of the facts.
Duckie
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:20 PM
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13. Policy-makers: evil. The followers: clueless.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-04 12:33 PM
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14. Out of touch with the Founding Fathers
Many Republicans (moderates included) see any type of charity as "socialist." Charity was a necessary commodity in our nation's early years. It was expected, but often refused due to pride. We as a nation have left that mindset. Many who have more than they need do not want to give, and many who shouldn't will take.

A small government will work when its people (aka corporations) return to correct-thinking values (some would call them morals), rather than monetary worship (i.e., a polluter would never pollute because it was the wrong thing to do, although the cheap way out). That ain't happening for a while.

Our nation was founded on a blend liberalism, conservativism, and populism. Presently, the balance among these three items is MIA.

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