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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-09-03 11:29 PM
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"Bill Clinton took all us trucker's radar detectors away..."
The stuff I hear sometimes....
OK, I thought I was gonna really dispute this, but the DOT being what it is (a big bloated bureaucracy) all I can find is that fuzzbusters were banned in interstate commerce trucks in Jan. 1994, supposedly "after YEARS of debate".

My position is that some nameless/faceless administrator pushed this through as an internal agency regulation and Big Dawg never saw it on his desk.

I'd even bet it was a Reagan/Bush appointee that signed it.

Anybody got some info for me? Who was the Administrator of the FHWA, DOT and FMCSA back then? Who signed the ban?
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:23 AM
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1. Not sure about the answer but
who gives a fuck. let that dude get back on the road. tell him not to let the door hit him in the ass on the way out. oh, and tell him to watch his speed.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 07:36 AM
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2. I give a fuck.
The guy's one of the few ham radio guys in this area that still talks to me, since the others shun my "Li-bu-ral Murka-hatin' Commie" self.

Thanks for playing. See the stage manager for your "lovely parting gift" on the way out.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 08:37 AM
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3. Sounds like it depends on the state
"The subject of legality also needs to be addressed. Some states limit or ban the use of radar detectors. If you happen to be caught using a radar detector in one of these states, it could cost you a heavy fine and/or you could lose your radar detector. "

http://www.termpro.com/articles/escort.html
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 08:44 AM
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4. Whoops, looks like it was an FHA decision for trucks
"The Federal Highway Administration has prohibited radar detector use in commercial vehicles involved in interstate commerce since January 1994. Radar detectors also are banned in all vehicles in Virginia and the District of Columbia and in big truck rigs in New York and Illinois."

Doesn't seem like Clinton had much to do with it.

http://aaa-cheap-auto-insurance-quote.com/Speeding.htm
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 08:45 AM
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5. I'm Not Sure
Although Clinton didn't get rid of many of the Regan/Bush appointees in the "Civil" Service.

Civil Service isn't to be mistaken with a "Servile" burecracy (sp?) nor a population of sheeple as in a Nazi Germany run by Stump and propagandaized by Rushbo.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:46 AM
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10. When they say that
tell them it's not America you're against, but the federal government.

Instantly, they perceive you as being 'on their side'. :)
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:04 AM
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6. You mean they banned something that helped people break the law???
Omigosh! The bastards!

Listen, I spend hours on the Interstate each week. If I had a dime for every time a meth-crazed, sleep-deprived trucker nearly killed me, I'd be a rich man. Oh, and one of my best friends was killed by a speeding truck. Nice.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:21 AM
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7. Since When Was A Radio Reciever "Agin" The Law?
Nazi Germany and the occupied countries or Great Britan who wanted to tax them to fund the BBC?
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C_eh_N_eh_D_eh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:39 AM
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9. Not "radio receiver", "radar detector"
It's a device that alerts you to hidden police checkpoints, so you know whether you can speed without getting caught.
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Don_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 02:00 PM
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15. What's The Difference In Any Reciever?
Be it shortwave, radar or programmed to avoid any "Clear Channel" station.

It's up to the "long-arm-of-the-law" and a jury of your peers to decide what you can listen to, when you can't to decide for yourself.

Sounds like Micro$haft or every greedy f**k out there, dosen't it?
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FlashHarry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 02:09 PM
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16. Er, you don't 'listen' to a radar detector.
Edited on Wed Sep-10-03 02:10 PM by FlashHarry
This isn't the 'gummint' taking away our rights to the airwaves. Radar detectors (or Fuzz-Busters) are purpose-built to avoid police speed traps, nothing else. I think you're confused, friend.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:49 AM
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11. That was actually in the official narrative...
" A motorist possesses a Radar Detector for one purpose only-to break the law...."

Now, doesn't that sound like "Law and order" Con-Speak to you? :7
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:36 PM
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13. The problem with always rebelling is that sometimes the people you are ...
rebelling against are just going to be right. Paraphrased from Garrison Keillor. Just because some freeper tells us not to stick our hands out the window on the bus doesn't mean that as liberals we should urge people to stick their hands out the window.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 01:47 PM
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14. True, true....
Never fails to get a look of astonishment when they say something like "What? But I thought as a Liberal, you'd be all for pre-school kids playing with sharp knives. I mean, that's personal freedom and all that, aint it?" after I'd say something like "5-year-olds shouldn't get into the knife drawer and play with the carving knife. Where are the partents?"

I have seen that. There are some out there who think that if Sean Hannity said it wasn't cool to eat turds that all us Liberals would be running around promoting coprophagy just to be contrary..

Baaaaa......Baaaaaa!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 09:31 AM
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8. That Bastard?!
Was that before or after he took away a trucker's right to drive for 35 hours straight, hopped up on speed?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-10-03 12:32 PM
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12. Tough shit!
Laws that limit the speed of enormous trucks are a good thing, and devices designed to circumvent the enforcement of those laws are not sacred cows.
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