OMG...My Dad just told me that he's voting a straight Democratic ticket

[Misunderestimator]

We laughed about how different our politics were four years ago. He's been a life-long Republican and he lives in Texas.

[eddiebrowns]

1. You must be very proud

This is for you :headbang:

and this is for your dad :yourock:

[Misunderestimator]

4. I AM proud!

He does rock! Never thought I'd say that. :D

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

2. That's so cool!

Congrats, honey! :toast:

[Misunderestimator]

8. He said he doesn't even care if there's a Republican running against

a Democrat who might have similiar views to his... that they are all ass-kissers to Bush, so he doesn't want them! Wooohoooo!

[Nite Owl]

14. Such uplifting news.

For all that we dems do and speak about it's the Republicans who need to make * a point with their party. When Repukes know that they will lose by association then we will have hope that this division in our country can end and we can be Americans again that have different ways of doing things but all want the best for our nation.

[Zomby Woof]

3. Hooray for Misunderdadimator!!!

:toast:

[Misunderestimator]

9. LOL

Misunderdadimator

[blm]

5. How happy is that? ;)

Good for our side.

[Misunderestimator]

10. Made my night!

[Texasgal]

6. YAYYYY!!!!

See? All Texans ain't all that bad!

[Misunderestimator]

11. Since I'm from Texas... I'd have to agree with you...

how cool would it be if Texas went for Kerry... I know it's too much to ask, but...

[Texasgal]

13. I don't know... It may be a possibilty.....

Ofcourse....I'm in Austin...MAJOR liberal hub. It would be too funny though!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

16. Maybe you should ship some of your drinking water to Houston

:hi:

[Texasgal]

17. HA!!! Riiight???

Here kiddies....Have some KOOL-AID!!! buwahahahahahahahaha!

[getoffmytrain]

77. Go Texas!!!

[proud patriot]

7. woo hoo

good for him

[Misunderestimator]

12. Yep... we've talked more in the last four years

than in the prior twenty.... at least there's ONE thing Bush has been good for. :)

[JimmyJazz]

20. Yeah for you!

I am truly happy for you, love. :toast:

D

[Misunderestimator]

21. Thanks!

And where do I send the toaster? :D

[JimmyJazz]

25. Oh no, dear - it must be delivered in person (but hurry, because

one of my vows is to never again leave GOPisEVIL for a cute lesbian with a toaster oven) :P

[Misunderestimator]

28. LOL...

given that you're straight and I'm committed... I think GOPisEVIL has the advantage here. :)

[JimmyJazz]

31. But, I thought you liked my ass the best! There, now I've gone and

done it - I've high jacked your thread to talk about my ass! So self centered of me! And for those of you who haven't seen it...

Oh nevermind, you had to be there.

I am happy for you beyond words and I think :yourock:

[Misunderestimator]

35. You haven't hijacked it yet... waiting for GOPisEVIL to show up and

help you with that ;)

[JimmyJazz]

37. Ah sorry, but the love of my life is not available this evening...

I believe he is out selecting tuxedos :)

[JohnKleeb]

36. I think I found my definition for the word assmongrel

heh, you're obessed with yer ass. Oh and it's great that she got her dad voting democratic, wasn't any work to get my dad to support Kerry since he's a lifelong dem but to see hear about long time voting republican voters voting democratic for the first time is encouraging at the very least.

[JimmyJazz]

40. Go back to your casting couch you silly insignificant non-ass admiring

person. :P

[JohnKleeb]

41. You assmongrel

:D
I am not casting right now, I am listening to the radio.

[Misunderestimator]

43. OK... now my thread has been hijacked

:D

[JohnKleeb]

46. I am a better copist than I am threadjackist

:shrug: I learned from the best on threadjacking though.

[JimmyJazz]

48. He did it - I'm telling!

[JimmyJazz]

47. At veya boos

that's as close phonetically as I can get to F-off in Russian - now go read some Solzhenitsyn! And wait until I show off my rack tomorrow! :)

[JohnKleeb]

50. Thats what I was doing all afternoon!

After I got my hair trimmed.
Oh and Ciach ort!

[Misunderestimator]

52. Hmm... Lyoooblyoo... phonetic bastardization

The only thing I know in Russian except DasVeDanye... though I do know the entire story of "The Ugly Duckling" by Prokofiev (20 minutes long) in Russian, having sung it.

[JohnKleeb]

53. It was meant at me

and all I said was Damn You in Irish Gaelic.
hah I love being able to swear in all these languages.

[Misunderestimator]

55. Arschloch!

:D

[JohnKleeb]

56. I dont know that one

:shrug:

[Misunderestimator]

58. It's German.

;)

[JohnKleeb]

59. I thought it so, or Dutch

[Misunderestimator]

60. Here ya go... a very useful site:

http://www.freetranslation.com/

[JohnKleeb]

62. been there

good site.

[JimmyJazz]

63. You are a bigger high jacker that me - but my ass is cuter!

:P

[JohnKleeb]

65. I am better copist than threadjackist

as I said I learned from the best. My ass is bigger though.

[JimmyJazz]

68. don't make me put up the evidence - it's a good thing MIS has a good

sense of humor - her thread is all over the place!!!!

[JohnKleeb]

70. I am being modest here

Yeah she does have a good sense of humor. Really, I copy better than I jack. I am sure you may recall "I HAVE A CRUSH ON A OLDER GAL", hah that was conveinent and brilliant because it was true.

[Misunderestimator]

72. Oh man.. you two....

I'm going to sleep now... carry on. :)

[JohnKleeb]

73. I didnt know I was this good at jacking

:shrug: You're modest for so damn long, it just sneaks up on you. Then again I do ok I guess. Oh and night.

[JimmyJazz]

61. I love you, too!

(good grief - I hate doing this phonetically) where's the cyrillic alphabet when you need it?

BTW - your post is oh so jacked!

[Misunderestimator]

64. Yep... it is indeed jacked

which is fine by me... And btw... I read the cyrillic alphabet... much easier than doing it phonetically. One of those useless talents that mean nothing to me now. :)

[JimmyJazz]

66. same here! I tried to read a russian chat room where they

were spelling everything phonetically - I did not last at all. they all seemed to know how to spell everything and I was completely lost!

See that: you might not need that toaster oven after all. GOPiSEVIL had me at Yeehaw, but you may have had me at ya loobyloo :)

[JohnKleeb]

67. You know my grandparents grew up speaking Slovak and Slovene

They've damned forgotten it so I won't be able to learn it, though I do own a Slovene dictionary and tapes, it's damn hard to learn.

[JimmyJazz]

69. oh, and I'm the High jacker....

:P

[JohnKleeb]

71. Yeah fo sure

[Misunderestimator]

76. Oh, and by the way... speaking of asses...

here's mine:

[Misunderestimator]

79. Yowza... Looks like a killed the thread with that

:D

[JohnKleeb]

80. Assmongrel!

:shrug: if it wasn't for my ass, I would be skinny. Really.

[LibertyorDeath]

15. One more comes over from the Dark Side

:toast: Kerry In a LandSlide

[Misunderestimator]

22. What a dream that would be.... Kerry 60%

that's my dream... and I've had many dreams come true.

[sundog]

18. Right on! Good job Mis :)

[Misunderestimator]

19. I'd take the credit... but he figured it out on his own...

He's a retired doctor and he speaks seven languages... he's a brilliant man and always difficult to live up to... but Bush has done such incredible damage to this country (that he immigrated to) that there is no choice for him now.

[johnnie]

23. I just love hearing these things

Life-long Republicans that are disgusted with their team. In one way I feel bad for them because they got screwed by people they stood by, but mostly I don't feel too bad for them because they come to our side.
I'm glad your father and you are starting to get closer too. :)

[Misunderestimator]

26. It's pretty incredible actually....

Our conversations for most of my adult life have been mundane and short... now they are spirited and complicit in our anger at what is happening to our country. I have to say that I love the man as I never have before.

[salin]

24. Excellent!

Any advice how to reach an intelligent, but currently indoctrinated doctor brother?

[Misunderestimator]

27. Just give him facts... facts about our economy

and everything else. If he's intelligent and he has the facts, he will turn. (I hope.)

[salin]

32. sadly, he isn't there yet..

he is still at the tune out stage, when information contradicts his world view. *sigh* He has four sons and the oldest will be draft age in two and a half years. But the idea that the war this lunatic is waging, and the multiple wars that seem immenent given the rhetoric of his core advisors... runs right over the top of his head.

[Misunderestimator]

34. Press him on the draft thing then...

I made that point with a co-worker and scared the crap outta him last week. It's real... "Are you willing to send your son to his death for this? For these lies?"

[salin]

45. Don't know that the "lies" thing will work... but you give me an idea

the rhetoric per Iran is very recognizable to that used about Iraq (except that it is more 'real' than it was against Iraq). I don't think I even have to push the lie angle - but instead the spread to thin angle - and the doesn't it sound like they are starting the precursor to the next battleground... then asking how the heck can they man such a thing? That might get him to thinking. Ironically (or not) he is toughter to get to think (he converted from a democrat - but he was always a dem as a "my parents were democrats" level)... than it is to get his moderate, republican (also a doctor) wife. I'll try this angle - thanks.

[Misunderestimator]

51. The Iran thing is a good angle... and unfortunately a very real one...

How WILL we man (sic) it?

[salin]

54. can I vent?

For more than two years, even on DU, folks want to supress "draft" talk. As in "it will never happen..."

BUT

There is a real "cost" to this foreign policy and it is the one you ask... how WILL we man (sic) it?

Hell, this is why we couldn't continue to do real work in Afghanistan *subliminal - the real potential heart of those who attacked us* - when the powers to be decided that Iraq was the real target. We couldn't fully staff each effort. Had to strip one to do the other.

on edit: my point - is that the DRAFT has to be a part of the policy discussion before the fact... whether or not we have the personnel should be a part of the discussion.. in the sense of... is this effort a high enough priority to draft our children to pursue? If not, then why are we pursuing it?

[Misunderestimator]

57. Exactamundo, my friend...

there is no WAY that we could do what this administration intends without a draft. No way.

[salin]

78. Settled.

This is the content of my next converstion with dr. bro.

btw, if you could a favor... my time is quite sporadic these days... more than limited and taxed (though since I finally got a cable modem in my "second home" it is a little better.) Please pass along my love to our dearest friend... and let her know that the silence has been more to do with 80 hour weeks trying to calibrate my project from reality to vision (and we still have a ways to go, but we are making progreass) than anything else. Life may be crazy - but it is always worth it. Be it working to right the craziness in our national discourse... or to work to right the wrongs through our crazy professional lives. Thanks.

[slinkerwink]

29. My dad's a Republican too and he lives in Texas---best part is

that he's voting for Kerry this year! He's more of the Rockefeller Republican kind, and startled me this year when the gay marriages started happening in Massachussetts by telling me that he supported gay marriages. I wonder if that was his way of telling me that he knows about me?

[Misunderestimator]

30. Wow! He doesn't know yet?

Sounds like it might be his way of telling you. Do yourself a favor and come out to him. I did with mine when I was 19, 23 years ago. A big weight off my shoulders, and he's been supportive about that despite his politics, ever since.

[slinkerwink]

33. I'm pretty much out to my stepmom, and half-siblings

My thirteen year old half-sister knows that I'm bisexual, and she's okay with it. She's always known I was bi ever since she was 5. I explained it to her that I liked girls the same way like I liked boys, and she was okay with that. I wish she'd stop asking me if I've found a new girlfriend at my college! :-P

As for my dad....I haven't come out to him. I think I'll probably come out to him after I finish college this year. I'm still afraid despite the fact that he told me he supports gay marriages, because who knows what his reaction will be if he knows his oldest daughter is queer?

My dad and I are very close---I grew up in the kitchen with him cooking meals and making bread. He also taught me how to do carpentry and to do sculling since none of my brothers were interested in that. I love my dad very much, and I don't want to disappoint him at all by coming out to him.

[Misunderestimator]

39. Somehow I don't think you will disappoint him.

I actually was trying to disappoint my father, but my telling him that brought us closer... go figure. If you are that close to him, you should tell him. (No pressure, just advice.)

[slinkerwink]

44. now I wish my mother wasn't so homophobic

When she comes to visit me for Family Weekend, I'll have to hide the lesbian erotica in my friend's room and hide the rather risque poster of a naked woman in her room too. Only if my mom could stay at a motel instead of in my room. arrrrgh. :-P

[Misunderestimator]

49. That's funny... I always make a point of leaving all my

lesbian literature prominently displayed when ANYONE visits.

[vinnievin777]

38. Excellent

Good job.

Vinnie
http://www.vinnievin.com

[Misunderestimator]

42. Thanks... and good job on the site.

I love this quote: "Most people who are dear to me do not share my opinions but that doesn't alter the fact that they are dear to me."

Keep up the good work!

[tigereye]

74. good to hear, Mis.

I enjoyed reading this thread. When I was out canvassing I encountered a number of Reps who are planning to vote Dem this year, for a variety of reasons. That was very encouraging. I think many are unhappy this election.

[sonias]

75. Hell yes!!

We need more good Texans voting Democrat this year and for years to come. Tell your Dad to check out DU and may be some local Dem meetups; we may yet get him to help us turn things around.

Congratulations Misunderestimator! Tell your Dad that other Texans are out here fighting for Texas. We will never give up and never surrender.

Sonia

[Misunderestimator]

81. He's not a forum type of guy...

But I send him articles from here all the time. Glad to hear that there are other Texans fighting the good fight! :toast: