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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 02:46 PM
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Civilization players
Do any of you get tired of the micromanagement of CivIII and go back to play Civ2 for a while?

I like a lot of the features of CivIII, but for some reason, it just hasn't grabbed me the way Civ2 did. Maybe I just need to get used to it or something.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 03:05 PM
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1. Actually, no.
I think you probably do have to get used to it.
I love the territory markings, so cities can't get shoved in next to your own.
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wakfs Donating Member (565 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 03:06 PM
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2. Never!!
I love CivIII and am looking forward to CivIV (apparently in the early stages of development).

Civ2 was a great game and my feeling is that while Civ3 is a more difficult game, it has more interesting features that make it very worthwhile indeed.

When I really want to have some fun I put it on the hardest settings and see how quickly my poor humble civilization gets destroyed.
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 03:09 PM
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3. I hate getting destroyed!
What does that say about me?
:D
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 03:11 PM
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4. Alpha Centauri ate my life!................................
I love the micromanaging. However, I am a little anxious about how lost I can get in that game. I say I'm only going to play for 30 min, and it turns into 3 hours - EVERYTIME! I keep saying to myself: "just one more turn and I'll quit...."

I have heard Civ III is strikingly similar to the interface of Alpha C, and I don't need that video-game crack right now.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 03:27 PM
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5. it is
I don't know why, maybe it's the graphics or something. Or maybe it's the fact that I'm a Civ2 addict, so moving up to a more difficult game with totally new concepts is difficult for me.
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7th_Sephiroth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 03:29 PM
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6. at one point in civ 3 i had
500 swordsman, i took out 7 civs before 0ad
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bloodyjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 03:38 PM
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7. I dont know, the diplomacy & military features are a lot nicer
I just dont really care for the graphics. the gameplay's a lot better though. I like how enough spearmen can no longer take down a stealth fighter like they could have in Civ II. There's really a lesser level of micromanagement in Civ III since you can automate your slave units to build roads or city walls etc

after about a year I grew bored of it until I got the Conquests expansion pack which lasted me about another half year. Well worth the extra $30!

Now I've moved on to Medieval Total War which is hella awesome
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 03:42 PM
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8. Yes, but you almost never SEE a spearman vs tank in Civ III.
The science progression makes it almost impossible to achieve that kind of tech superiority. You're lucky to have tanks vs riflemen. Mostly, it's tanks vs infantry.

The fact that a tech gets cheaper every time a new civ learns it means that all civs stay pretty even.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 03:49 PM
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9. I've tried teh Total War series
I still can't get the battlefield stuff down. It's a beautiful game (I've got the original, Shogun) but I just can't quite figure out how to fight.
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bloodyjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 04:50 PM
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16. what do you mean?
as in training and consolidating units, then moving them to a given province? that sort of thing?

or as in conducting your forces while on theyre on the battlefield, frolicking through the fields and setting granaries ablaze and stuff like that?
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 05:05 PM
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17. on the battlefield
I do fine on the meta stuff, it's when I get down to manipulating them in battle that I have trouble.

which is frustrating, because I'm pretty good at wargames (tabletop).
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 03:56 PM
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10. My Civ III problem was with levels of difficulty
At the easiest level it was much too easy; at any harder level it was much too hard, or anyway annoying and frustrating, which isn't exactly what I play games for. But regardless, I long ago stopped playing Civ III, and waste much more time on Civ II Test of Time, even though it sucks rocks out loud.

The micromanagement I mostly like.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 03:58 PM
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11. Seems like alot of Sid Meier games are like that................
Way too easy or unbelievably difficult.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 04:15 PM
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12. actually
I like Test of Time. You can always play vanilla, but I've been getting into the science fiction version lately.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 04:33 PM
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13. I think people just hated it because it was packaged as a new game
when it was just the old one repackaged with all the expansion packs Sid had released already. I got it off the discount rack, so that didn't worry me noticeably. I like it too, except the map sizes don't correspond to the settings you put in, so the map is always a bit too large. Also the "slaughter rule" in the v1.1 patch ("You have attained Transcendance," or whatever it is) is a bit annoying. But in general, I like it a lot, too.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 04:42 PM
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14. I've got a fun one going
Three cities producing Uranium. I'm about to make a bunch of money.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 04:46 PM
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15. I think Civ III showed how perfect Civ II is. It's just not as good, sure
the graphics are updated but so what?
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-04 05:07 PM
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18. a few things I do like
I like all the Alpha Centauri stuff. For instance, being able to tell a unit to go to specific spot on the map. That's nice.

The fact that each tribe has its own attributes and unique units is very nice.

I like the way you can set up more complex deals for trades and stuff.

Can't stand the new graphics. I just can't tell what I'm doing, I guess.

And I don't like the split between workers and settlers. That was something I didn't like from Alpha Centauri.
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